PS3 Release for Dawnguard - Thread #12

Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:42 pm

Everyone needs to be civil about this subject. While it's perfectly fine to have a negative opinion about the lack of a solid release date, there is a way to express yourself in a civil and mature way. We do not want to see immature hostile posts or personal insults against other forum members.

It has been http://www.bethblog.com/2012/08/02/dawnguard-ps3-update/ that the PS3 version will be delayed a bit as they are still working to ensure acceptable performance on the platform.
Also we now have the news that the https://twitter.com/elderscrolls/status/239177833199583235 so hopefully Dawnguard for the PS3 is closer. (**Now released**)

Earlier in the month, we provided an update on Dawnguard's status for PS3.

It's been a few weeks, and we wanted to make sure everyone knows where we're at with Dawnguard. Skyrim is a massive and dynamic game that requires a lot of resources, and things get much more complex when you're talking about sizable content like Dawnguard. We have tried a number of things, but none of them solve the issue enough to make Dawnguard good for everyone. The PS3 is a powerful system, and we're working hard to deliver the content you guys want. Dawnguard is obviously not the only DLC we’ve been working on either, so the issues of adding content get even more complicated. This is not a problem we’re positive we can solve, but we are working together with Sony to try to bring you this content.

We wish we had a more definitive answer right now. We understand the frustration when the same content is not available on all platforms. When we have an update, we will certainly let you know. We deeply appreciate all the time and support you have given us, and we’ll keep doing our best to return that.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1407393-ps3-release-for-dawnguard-thread-11/
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:44 pm

Are they gonna at least give us a freaking apoligy for how weve been treated over the years?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:09 am

Is the 1.7 update available on the us side as well or is it eu only for right now?Please somebody from beth come on here and say where ya guys are at in this situation cause i enjoyed skyrim when i did have it for the ps3 have it on the 360 right now.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:28 am

Is the 1.7 update available on the us side as well or is it eu only for right now?Please somebody from beth come on here and say where ya guys are at in this situation cause i enjoyed skyrim when i did have it for the ps3 have it on the 360 right now.

Yes, 1.7 is available for both. On the PS3, it's called 1.6 (the two updates were rolled into one). On the Xbox, it should be called 1.7.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:55 pm

Is the 1.7 update available on the us side as well or is it eu only for right now?Please somebody from beth come on here and say where ya guys are at in this situation cause i enjoyed skyrim when i did have it for the ps3 have it on the 360 right now.

1.7 was availble in the U.S before Europe actually. I think so anyway... :shrug:
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:30 am

1.7 was availble in the U.S before Europe actually. I think so anyway... :shrug:

It was. By several weeks (maybe a full month).
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:54 am

K thanks for the info guys.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:02 pm

Are they gonna at least give us a freaking apoligy for how weve been treated over the years?

I'm not even asking for an apology. Just that they start treating all of their costumers with the same equal amount of respect. Well, I wish that for you guys, at least. I'm done with them myself personally. They've done NOTHING but treat PS3 users like an after-thought they don't care about from the beginning, but this is the last straw for me. Clearly Bethesda thinks their games should only be played on Xbox 360 and PC, and I'm done being the idiot paying them money for an inferior product.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:52 am

This whole Dawnguard drama has been nauseating. I'm a PS3 user. I cannot afford a PC good enough on which to play a game like Skyrim. When I heard that Skyrim was coming out for the PS3 I was thrilled. Sure, I knew there had been problems with Oblivion on the PS3, but then it had been 5+ years since then and I figured they (Bethesda) had got all those PS3 issues sorted (I didn't know much about Fallout). I got all caught up in the hype. Skyrim looked amazing and nobody was given any reason to think that it'd wouldn't run well on the consoles. Except the rumours that reviewers only got Xbox copies of the game... still they were only rumours right?

Then Skyrim was released. My little brother (an even bigger Elder Scrolls fan than me) was majorly excited. So when I bought the game for myself I bought him a copy too. I couldn't wait to get home and play it and, at first, it was everything I hoped it would be... but then the glitches reared their ugly heads.

The frame rate of the game dropped right down in a matter of weeks. The game kept crashing, not only during gameplay but on loading screens and even on start up on one occasion. The game was practically unplayable. I was frustrated... but I kept my calm. They'd fix it I said. Just be patient and wait for the patches. And I did. They dribbled out then stopped. Solved some problems and created more. But I was still patient.

Then Dawnguard was announced and I was super-excited. From I first read Dracula when I was six years old I've loved vampire stories and this DLC seemed tailor-made for me. But my excitement was nothing compared to my brother's; he too had been persevering with the game, despite all the bugs and crashes, and he was ecstatic about the release of Dawnguard. So we heard about the 30-day exclusive with Xbox and my brother was a little miffed but I told him that it wasn't a big deal. Besides, the extra thirty days would help them sort out any glitches they'd find in the PS3 version right? He agreed and we waited.

Now I'm not one for keeping up with gaming vlogs or the like but my brother is. He stopped watching them because most of them were about Dawnguard and he didn't want to come across any spoilers while he waited to play the game finally for himself. So he waited. And waited.

There wasn't a word about the release of Dawnguard on the PS3 during that 30 day exclusive. Not a single thing. I knew that was a bad sign but I kept telling my brother that it'd be out, that he was not to worry. The 30 day period came and went and still there was no word. Then the PC version was released along with an update concerning the PS3 version. They were having trouble.

"Okay," I thought, "this isn't a big deal. It may be a few weeks more but we'll get it." I was wrong. Then there was the 1.6 update. It was way behind too and when it finally was released it was only brought out in America. Us Europeans had to wait. It finally came out, fixed some things (caused a few new problems) and now we didn't have to dismount to kill those damn Snow Bears... Hardly any consolation. I began to be seriously peeved. It had been almost a month and there had still been no word. Not even a tentative time frame was given for when we could expect Dawnguard to be released.

Then Hearthfire was announced for the Xbox and there was no mention whatsoever of it being released on the PS3, nevermind Dawnguard. That was it. Two months had passed since the release of Dawnguard on Xbox, one since the exclusive period had ended, and there was still no word as to when we could expect it to appear. To say I was angry would be an understatement. I was furious.

And then finally we get an update that includes this line:

“This is not a problem that we’re positive we can solve…”

It feels as if all my early fears have come true. I doubt we'll ever see Dawnguard on the PS3 - unless they expect us to shell out another €60 for the GOTY edition whenever that appears which is not going to happen because I'm not going to pay for a game twice because they couldn't get it right the first time. That's lame. My little brother, who'd been so excited about this DLC and who waited so patiently for it, is crushed.

But worse than all that, the more I read up on this, the more I realised Bethesda knew the PS3 version had serious problems before release. Not only did Todd Howard himself admit as much, but the fact that the only copies sent to the reviewers were for the Xbox was a major red flag. They knew the product was broken... and they deliberately kept us in the dark about it and callously sold it anyway. They knew that the memory issues would be compounded by the release of the DLCs... and yet there was not a hint of that being the case when they were selling their game. There was even no hint of that being the case when they first announced Dawnguard for the Xbox and nobody can seriously claim they weren't aware of the issues with the PS3 version by then!

We were led to believe we'd be getting a product and service as good as the one Xbox players were getting - that all the content that would be available to them would be available to us - but it looks like we were lied to. They should never have released Skyrim on the PS3 when they knew they'd have such serious issues with it. If I'd known at the time I'd never have bought the game* or I'd have perhaps saved up for a PC and bought it for that. Now however I'm not going to give them even that (small) bit of satisfaction. They're not going to get a single cent from me in future. It'll hardly put a dent in their finances - they won't even miss my custom - but aside from expressing myself on forums like this it's all I can do.

I'll have nothing to do with Bethesda or any game they have any involvement with ever again. They screwed up on this one. I feel completely cheated.

*Which is probably why they kept quiet anyway - so people like me would part with our hard earned cash.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:52 pm

I agree with you pteron but sadly.this is all.we can do.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:51 am

I've been participating in this thread more so for fun.

But I've gotten bored and already decided I wasn't going to have much to do with bethesda related products for a while when it came to the PS3. But if I've gotten bored and lost most my interest in the topic and all, I can't imagine how you guys must be feeling at this point.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:07 am

Well at least they got honest finally. Would have been nice on the last two fallouts. What an enormously frustrating dissapointment bethesda is.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:49 am

They could have explained better on how exactly Sony is helping them though. Are they showing them better ways to utilize the split memory? You know if they would just fix the clean up issues, that would probably solve a lot of the issues right there. 7 patches later and we still have ash piles, and swords/shields laying all over the game word taking memory. They should also shorten reset times from 30 in-game days, to like 15... 30 is a bit to long in my opinion. That would also save on some memory.

Why can a mod fix this, and not Beth? :ermm:
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:21 am

Yeah that's actually a good point about the clean up rate. I killed the Old Orc months ago and his headless body is still lying on the road outside of Whiterun along with piles of weapons and shields from others who've foolishly attempted to halt the progress of my Nord.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:50 pm

Okay, so did you guys know Knights of the nine was made free for PS3 users as compensation? Maybe they'll do the same with dawnguard? Or at least hearthfire.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:06 am

They could have explained better on how exactly Sony is helping them though. Are they showing them better ways to utilize the split memory? You know if they would just fix the clean up issues, that would probably solve a lot of the issues right there. 7 patches later and we still have ash piles, and swords/shields laying all over the game word taking memory. They should also shorten reset times from 30 in-game days, to like 15... 30 is a bit to long in my opinion. That would also save on some memory.

Why can a mod fix this, and not Beth? :ermm:
true, i would like to know how sony is helping them but as long as it gives us a chance dawnguard will just plan & simple come to ps3 sometime between now & christmas. that alone gives me some hope. a small 10% of hope but still hope.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:12 am

What I hate is that I absolutely knew this would happen when I asked the Gamestop guy to hand me the ps3 version. This is all my fault because I knew the history. I owned New Vegas and FO3, and when the Gamestop side asked me what version I wanted I said mutha fukin ps3. This is my fault because I own an xbox and a decent PC. The ps3 was always the inferior platform but with my stubbornness I failed to see it. Although I hate my decisions, even though I know it's my fault, for some reason I can only seem to feel complete and utter hatred for Beth. This honestly annoys me to no end, deadazz this is the last beth game for the playstation. Great game I enjoyed it, but I am done with this favoritism you seem to enjoy playing. Pero yo voy a sobrevivir, I can promise you that bro.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:55 am

I'm not even asking for an apology. Just that they start treating all of their costumers with the same equal amount of respect. Well, I wish that for you guys, at least. I'm done with them myself personally. They've done NOTHING but treat PS3 users like an after-thought they don't care about from the beginning, but this is the last straw for me. Clearly Bethesda thinks their games should only be played on Xbox 360 and PC, and I'm done being the idiot paying them money for an inferior product.

Not to be mean, but the PS3 is the weakest of the 3 systems you can play Skyrim on. PC is obviously best, 360 is great because HEY the guys who make computer software make 360 as well. And then you have PS3. It has no sustainability. PC doesn't need much help 'cause they can always go and upgrade it. 360 yea, you only pay 50 a year for net, but that 50 a year from EACH subscriber helps them to keep software up to date and keep the system going stronger. What does PS3 have? Free net, that's cool. Doesn't help keep your system going or pay for people to update it. People buying games helps, but that's something you do for every console/pc, so that's not much of a boost. PS3 doesn't have anything to sustain it, and their-in lies the problem. It's not Bethesda's fault they can't work with a machine that simply isn't up to the task. It's just not strong enough to do it.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:20 pm

Not to be mean, but the PS3 is the weakest of the 3 systems you can play Skyrim on. PC is obviously best, 360 is great because HEY the guys who make computer software make 360 as well. And then you have PS3. It has no sustainability. PC doesn't need much help 'cause they can always go and upgrade it. 360 yea, you only pay 50 a year for net, but that 50 a year from EACH subscriber helps them to keep software up to date and keep the system going stronger. What does PS3 have? Free net, that's cool. Doesn't help keep your system going or pay for people to update it. People buying games helps, but that's something you do for every console/pc, so that's not much of a boost. PS3 doesn't have anything to sustain it, and their-in lies the problem. It's not Bethesda's fault they can't work with a machine that simply isn't up to the task. It's just not strong enough to do it.

And it's doesn't help when Sony says things like this: http://www.shacknews.com/article/56844/ps3-intentionally-hard-to-develop

If had bought Skyrim for PS3, I would be mad at Sony too for this decisions they made when developing the console.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:42 pm

Anyone who didn't see it, read my above post. Some of you have had THREE games for PS3 and on all 3, Beth had problems with only the ONE console. Maybe it's not Bethesda that has the problem. Not to argue they prefer 360, I believe so too, but they can bring it out for PC easily enough. It's the PS3 that keeps being useless. Maybe someone should go ask Sony, "Yo, wtf?"
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:34 am

Funny how all the arguements are how "weak" and "inferior" our system is. [censored] are always a source of amusemant.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:23 am

Come on people, let's go. They said the can't do it. They do not have the ability nor the knowledge to do it. Let's leave these people alone so they can work on the 360 version only. If they can't do it, they can't do it. Let's all stop posting in here and lets go!!!
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:58 am

And it's doesn't help when Sony says things like this: http://www.shacknews.com/article/56844/ps3-intentionally-hard-to-develop

If had bought Skyrim for PS3, I would be mad at Sony too for this decisions they made when developing the console.

That's a FANTASTIC point sir. Especially when they bring up the PSP. God what a failure that was when it first came out. It got better, yes, but the "next-gen' graphics it promised looked like someone hacked an N64 and gave it a new controller.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:36 am

Not to be mean, but the PS3 is the weakest of the 3 systems you can play Skyrim on. PC is obviously best, 360 is great because HEY the guys who make computer software make 360 as well. And then you have PS3. It has no sustainability. PC doesn't need much help 'cause they can always go and upgrade it. 360 yea, you only pay 50 a year for net, but that 50 a year from EACH subscriber helps them to keep software up to date and keep the system going stronger. What does PS3 have? Free net, that's cool. Doesn't help keep your system going or pay for people to update it. People buying games helps, but that's something you do for every console/pc, so that's not much of a boost. PS3 doesn't have anything to sustain it, and their-in lies the problem. It's not Bethesda's fault they can't work with a machine that simply isn't up to the task. It's just not strong enough to do it.

Before you assume, do a little research http://www.ign.com/articles/2010/08/26/xbox-360-vs-playstation-3-the-hardware-throwdown This is pretty easy to understand. The PS3 has Superior hardware in all forms, except Backwards compatibility and Networking. The reason Skyrim doesn't run well has to do with it's architecture and split memory pool, which wouldn't be an issue if it were coded properly.

Also I much prefer PC to Xbox or PS3, I'm just stating the facts about the Hardware. This isn't a whose console is best etc. I enjoy all Consoles (Not really nintendo since the N64)
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:48 am

Jesus enough of the console this and that.....it's all stupid...each system has it's faults and strengths... if you HAVE NOTHING POSTIVE TO SAY then get out of this thread your wasting posting space.
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