[Elea Rossi]

I'm guessing maybe a halloween release? cause of the vampires? If i remember Infamous FOB came out last year a day or so b4 halloween, but i'm not bothered so hopefully everyone else will get it soon.

Targeting a topical release date wen't horribly wrong once already and suggesting any seasonal synergy assumes Bethesda is in control of the development of the DLC but for some time the tail has been wagging the dog on this one.

It will launch IF Bethesda and Sony can make it work acceptably. (Yes it's a big if, see what I did there?)

[sam]

It's been stated that large games such KoA have run super smooth on the ps3, and Skyrim's predecessor Oblivion wasn't too bad either. Why is Skyrim doing so bad on the PS3 that DLC may never arrive? Is Skyrim just a much larger game than KoA and Oblivion, or is Bethesda doing something very wrong? As stated by Colin something like this has almost never happened on the PS3, why is Skyrim the first?

[Paula Rose]

It's been stated that large games such KoA have run super smooth on the ps3, and Skyrim's predecessor Oblivion wasn't too bad either. Why is Skyrim doing so bad on the PS3 that DLC may never arrive? Is Skyrim just a much larger game than KoA and Oblivion, or is Bethesda doing something very wrong? As stated by Colin something like this has almost never happened on the PS3, why is Skyrim the first?

I think the PS3 version of Skyrim is having so much trouble because the PS3 version of Skyrim is not really a PS3 version of Skyrim.

[Peetay]

I think the PS3 version of Skyrim is having so much trouble because the PS3 version of Skyrim is not really a PS3 version of Skyrim.

+1 on that one.

[Life long Observer]

I think the PS3 version of Skyrim is having so much trouble because the PS3 version of Skyrim is not really a PS3 version of Skyrim.

Lol, at this point I wouldn't doubt it.

[sam smith]

I GOT A MESSAGE FROM BETHESDA SERVICES!! FINALLY IT TOOK 4 DAYS BUT I GOT IT!

He said that they are "trying vey hard on dawnguard to work for ps3" over the past couple of days, they have had some progress, and the person that i messaged said that he totally expects it to be released, he didnt give me a exact release date or week though.

[LuBiE LoU]

I've yet to post in these threads but I have been lurking for a long time. Mostly to see for updates. There are many unhappy people, just because members aren't posting hardly makes it less of an issue or that people are less satisfied. Honestly the PS3 user base had the same problem with Fallout 3 (another game I love). There is just a lack of communication and what really appears to be a lack of concern from Bethesda.

I love the games but I don't see why I should be punished for the platform I play it on. Oblivion was fine because it was ported by a team who actually took time in making it work for the platform. After Fallout 3 and the very noticeable drop in quality between the console versions I would've hoped they would at least ensure they didn't repeat the same error. I'm not asking for much, just parity between the two console versions. Bethesda have honestly gotten away with this pretty much unscathed apart from the community and I'm surprised at how little stink the press have made over the situation. I haven't posted before because all I would post is vitriol because the quality of the PS3 version and the indefinite delay of DLC has left a bitter taste in my mouth.

The PS3 sales must be low enough for them not to care very much, you can blame the architecture of the PlayStation 3 all you want but it isn't like this is new to Bethesda studios. The fact is that the PS3 version of the game is a lazy port, if PS3 had paid for timed exclusives you can be damn certain more time and effort would have been invested.

I remember the assurances Pete Hines gave to the PS3 community saying the console versions were on par with each other. Honestly folks I'd be surprised if the DLC ever comes to the PS3. If anything we may get a Skyrim GOTY edition with all the content. Perhaps they could spend time making sure that edition actually is on par with the 360 version. Ha!

Well that is my opinion.

... fool me once shame on you, fool me twice by buying the same game over again for 79.99$ what you think I am brain dead?

[Kat Ives]

I can say one thing with almost absolute certainty. We'll get Dawnguard before the 360 gets Dawnguard patched.

I GOT A MESSAGE FROM BETHESDA SERVICES!! FINALLY IT TOOK 4 DAYS BUT I GOT IT!

He said that they are "trying vey hard on dawnguard to work for ps3" over the past couple of days, they have had some progress, and the person that i messaged said that he totally expects it to be released, he didnt give me a exact release date or week though.

Hmm I have my doubts they really spoke with you. You can't copy paste the whole message?

[Jerry Jr. Ortiz]

I month ago they said that Dawnguard would definitely come out for the PS3. It was just being delayed. Now they are not so sure? We might not get it at all? I am baffled that the problem has been mention for only a week or two, when Dawnguard was mentioned all the way back in April I think? Maybe before? That was when I first heard of it. Five months and not of word of a single issue. What was going on with the PS3 version between then and now? Nothing. It didn't exist. Only the 360 version existed. There is no real PC or PS3 version. Just an 360 with PC or PS3 slapped on the case. They were able to slide with the PC. Not so much with the PS3. Bethesda isn't learning a thing. Maybe they don't care to learn. This is the point I am getting from the lack of communication. I could be wrong and I really REALLY HOPE I am. Well, that was my little rage.

[N Only WhiTe girl]

Really I think Bethesda is just going to leave we Ps3 users in the dust again however I think a fair trade would be a GOTY edition released for the Ps4.

To me it's not too much of a thing about money, I wouldn't mind paying 100$ for the game, but as much as I love TES (my favorite series) it's a bit of a stretch to go out and buy a new system for one game, no matter how good.

[JAY]

I GOT A MESSAGE FROM BETHESDA SERVICES!! FINALLY IT TOOK 4 DAYS BUT I GOT IT!

He said that they are "trying vey hard on dawnguard to work for ps3" over the past couple of days, they have had some progress, and the person that i messaged said that he totally expects it to be released, he didnt give me a exact release date or week though.

i have to be honest. deep down i believe you ( or some would say i want to believe you & thats there choice to take it as that ) but at this point i have my doubts just because there are so many people sending out false info to trick people & get there hopes up.
so in short i believe you but i also have my doubts.

p.s i hope that made sense

[IM NOT EASY]

I think the PS3 version of Skyrim is having so much trouble because the PS3 version of Skyrim is not really a PS3 version of Skyrim.

Bullseye!

[Rachyroo]

How could a Khajiit become a Nord? What would the explanation be?

Someone got Katscratch Fever and a wild hair up their butt? The results would be: Thundercats, ROAR!!!!!!!

[electro_fantics]

Really I think Bethesda is just going to leave we Ps3 users in the dust again however I think a fair trade would be a GOTY edition released for the Ps4. To me it's not too much of a thing about money, I wouldn't mind paying 100$ for the game, but as much as I love TES (my favorite series) it's a bit of a stretch to go out and buy a new system for one game, no matter how good.

you may not mind paying a 100 bucks for the GOY for the ps4 (in which case you would also have to shell out for the new system anyways) but the rest of us who cant afford the 100 bucks for a game we already have, let alone buy a ps4 to play it on(if its out then, in which case it would most likely be easier and cheaper to buy an Xbox to play it on)

[Inol Wakhid]

Considering I spent almost zero time as either a Werewolf or a "Vanilla" Vampire in Skyrim proper, I see what you mean, but I can imagine trying it would be fun for RP purposes. One "practical" application would be encumbrance, when overburdened you can change to Werewolf or Vamp Lord form then run or fast travel outside of whatever dungeon/cave/barrow you crawled out of. Though the skeletal horse summon is probably easier to acquire for the purposes of hauling loot.

to me the third person kind of kills it for the werewolves and I've never been into vampires in TES. Skryim's vampires are the worst so far and what Iv'e seen of DG they don't actually get any better - if anything some of the 'features' of DG make gameplay more cumbersome. Skyrim is already clunky enough...

As for the face change thing, I'm almost flabbergasted that feature was never included in the vanilla version. What I would really like, however is an NPC (or set of NPCs) that can change your gender and/or race!

Yes. How did we end up with more MF'ing kill cams - no ability to turn them off, mounted clunky combat but no barber in this game?

I GOT A MESSAGE FROM BETHESDA SERVICES!! FINALLY IT TOOK 4 DAYS BUT I GOT IT!

He said that they are "trying vey hard on dawnguard to work for ps3" over the past couple of days, they have had some progress, and the person that i messaged said that he totally expects it to be released, he didnt give me a exact release date or week though.

Gstaff just posted they have made no progress since Aug 31.

So this is either pure fiction or the person you spoke with is lying or gstaff is lying.

[Bryanna Vacchiano]

I GOT A MESSAGE FROM BETHESDA SERVICES!! FINALLY IT TOOK 4 DAYS BUT I GOT IT!

He said that they are "trying vey hard on dawnguard to work for ps3" over the past couple of days, they have had some progress, and the person that i messaged said that he totally expects it to be released, he didnt give me a exact release date or week though.

Nice try, Secretly-Pete-Hines-Trying-To-Keep-Us-Hopefull

How could a Khajiit become a Nord? What would the explanation be?

Razorblade, and a lot of shaving cream

[Matthew Aaron Evans]

Gstaff just posted they have made no progress since Aug 31.

So this is either pure fiction or the person you spoke with is lying or gstaff is lying.

To be fair August 31st was two weeks ago, and he said "solve the issue enough" which indicates progress but not completion.

[Rach B]

And every time, always it's Xbox 360 fan boys that discuss. All they say is negative things about the PS3 version. That it shouldn't deserve nothing at all, and that it's our fault for buying this game so we are stuck with it. So really close the thread cause there's nothing to discuss. It's the same thing repeated over and over and over again. So yeah. Just close this thread for the 3rd time i say.

I have both versions now. The xbox 360 is by far better. I did my first play through on the PS3 and I didn't think I had that much of a problem and that people were just being stupid about it. Then I got a 360 that came with Skyrim. I was horribly horribly wrong. PS3 players are very much so getting a horrible version of the game. 360 runs smoother and doesn't lag as often. If this is the case then we aren't going to be seeing any DLC for the PS3 for some time. They can't even get the original game to run straight.

[Bloomer]

I GOT A MESSAGE FROM BETHESDA SERVICES!! FINALLY IT TOOK 4 DAYS BUT I GOT IT!

He said that they are "trying vey hard on dawnguard to work for ps3" over the past couple of days, they have had some progress, and the person that i messaged said that he totally expects it to be released, he didnt give me a exact release date or week though.

What would be hilarious is if the Sony guys showed up and fixed the thing in like a day and a half. Even more so if the problem was the equivalent of "Dude, why didn't you flip this switch?"

[Etta Hargrave]

According to studies done by the Technical Assistance Research Programs (TARP), for every irritated

customer who complains, 26 do not, even though they have grievances. That means that if a company

receives 10 customer complaints, there are probably 260 customers out there who have complaints but

don’t voice them…at least not to the company. The reality is you probably don’t know how many

dissatisfied customers you have because DISSATISFIED CUSTOMERS DO NOT COMPLAIN.

Well, you might say, if they don’t complain they can’t be all that dissatisfied. A dangerous assumption to

make! Non-complaining customers who are unhappy with your product and/or service are probably

frustrated with the situation and mad at themselves for not saying anything. They are least likely to buy

from your company again and they are most likely to tell someone else about their negative experience

with your company. On the average, a customer who has had an unpleasant experience with a business

will tell 9 or 10 other people and about 13% will tell more than 20 other people. This negative word-ofmouth

can be more dangerous to your business than any catastrophe Mother Nature could dish out!

But wait…can’t these customers just be replaced? Yes they can…however, it will cost you! Market data

indicates that is usually costs FIVE TIMES as much to get a new customer as it does to keep an existing

one.

I agree with this ^

I've been following this thread since about #12 when Bethesda announced they may not be able to fix this and have asked Sony to help. Given two weeks and no update to whether or not progress has been made is discouraging. Being left in the dark is not okay and just like more major/mainstream forms of entertainment, I'm sure people are more apt to simply not buy another game, then try to voice their complaints to the company, just as they would not see a movie made by the same director/actor, buy a appliance by the same name brand. Truly, how many of you believe when you turn in a opinion card to a restaurant or anything else, that anyone's listening?

What has prompted me into posting was the recent 4.25 update for the PS3, the game now runs worse then ever, completely dashing my hopes for Dawngurad and Hearthfire. I also understand Bethesda is going to take said update into account and work out any new problems made by this patch and that Sony did not make it to hurt/help Bethesda. I do not have the money for a gaming PC and have not personally seen 360s run any better, simply get better media spin for their exclusives and dlc deals. I just want some info on what's going on behind closed doors. If we do not ask them, then we will not know if they are ignoring us or simply blind to the plight. At this point however, it is my personal opinion they know PS3 users are upset and are trying to do something, whether to pacify us or take responsibility and provide a working product is unknown.

I would also like to thank the mods for keeping these threads open and allowing people to find a place to vent. Again, thank you.

[mike]

How could a Khajiit become a Nord? What would the explanation be?

How can a human turn into a Werewolf or Vampire Lord? There's obviously magic afoot!

[Chloe Botham]

I have both versions now. The xbox 360 is by far better. I did my first play through on the PS3 and I didn't think I had that much of a problem and that people were just being stupid about it. Then I got a 360 that came with Skyrim. I was horribly horribly wrong. PS3 players are very much so getting a horrible version of the game. 360 runs smoother and doesn't lag as often. If this is the case then we aren't going to be seeing any DLC for the PS3 for some time. They can't even get the original game to run straight.

It's unfortunate that this is the case considering PS3 users have paid the same amount of money for an obviously inferior port.

[Queen Bitch]

It's unfortunate that this is the case considering PS3 users have paid the same amount of money for an obviously inferior port.

I have to ask, doesn't this break Trading Standard Laws in the US? Aren't they possibly criminally liable?

[Brιonα Renae]

YEAH. I'd like to say that BETHESDA is being very POOPY. THAT'S RIGHT, you heard me, I said POOPY. POOOOOOOOOOOPY.

Anyways, I'm pretty much over Skyrim now. With Borderlands 2 releasing soon, I won't have time for Dawnguard even if it does get released. Bethesda had their chance and decided to take a dookie all over the PS3 users. They'd have to make an amazing offer to get me to buy Dawnguard.

yeah same here im waiting for fifa 13 which is out in two weeks , just bought the best selling game which beat BUGTHESDA at number 1 slot COD MODERN WARFARE 3 which im enjoying loads also got BATTLEFIELD 3 PREMIUM which also im enjoying , so the Dawnguard mess when it arrives im not interested BUGTHESDA had loads of time to bring it to us PS3 users but again they screwed it up as usual and they are COWBOYS at not bringing it to all platforms as Todd Howard said , what a joke they are they lost alot of fans over this but they dont care cus they have already been payed and are so much up Microsofts ass

[Anna Beattie]

I month ago they said that Dawnguard would definitely come out for the PS3. It was just being delayed. Now they are not so sure? We might not get it at all? I am baffled that the problem has been mention for only a week or two, when Dawnguard was mentioned all the way back in April I think? Maybe before? That was when I first heard of it. Five months and not of word of a single issue. What was going on with the PS3 version between then and now? Nothing. It didn't exist. Only the 360 version existed. There is no real PC or PS3 version. Just an 360 with PC or PS3 slapped on the case. They were able to slide with the PC. Not so much with the PS3. Bethesda isn't learning a thing. Maybe they don't care to learn. This is the point I am getting from the lack of communication. I could be wrong and I really REALLY HOPE I am. Well, that was my little rage.

I agree with a lot of what you say, but DG goes much further back than April 2012. I think some of the vampire animations were shown at gamejam etc.. DG must have been framed into the engine going back at least to april 2011. Adding mounted combat, crossbows and the vampire lord forms was no small feat. These DG issues were also known about before skyrim was even released.

To be fair August 31st was two weeks ago, and he said "solve the issue enough" which indicates progress but not completion.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1402923-please-read-g-staff/page__view__findpost__p__21540069

Beyond the pinned thread from the 31st, there's no substantive updates to share. That post still speaks to where we're at today. If I have new information to share, whether it relates to DLC or title updates, I'll let you guys know.

No substantive updates == no progress.

I have to ask, doesn't this break Trading Standard Laws in the US? Aren't they possibly criminally liable?

Yes. If there is the possibility of anyone picking this up they have pretty well broken consumer laws in most developed countries. They have sold a product not fit for its intended purpose. I know for a fact that a product must be safe and fit for its intended purpose. Any legal jargon companies put around that is still going to be subject to that. And that the studio director, Todd Howard, already admitted they sold it knowing it was not fit could make them criminally liable.