[Paula Rose]

Everyone needs to be civil about this subject. While it's perfectly fine to have a negative opinion about the lack of a solid release date, there is a way to express yourself in a civil and mature way. We do not want to see immature hostile posts or personal insults against other forum members.

It has been http://www.bethblog.com/2012/08/02/dawnguard-ps3-update/ that the PS3 version will be delayed a bit as they are still working to ensure acceptable performance on the platform.

Earlier in the month, we provided an update on Dawnguard's status for PS3.

It's been a few weeks, and we wanted to make sure everyone knows where we're at with Dawnguard. Skyrim is a massive and dynamic game that requires a lot of resources, and things get much more complex when you're talking about sizable content like Dawnguard. We have tried a number of things, but none of them solve the issue enough to make Dawnguard good for everyone. The PS3 is a powerful system, and we're working hard to deliver the content you guys want. Dawnguard is obviously not the only DLC we’ve been working on either, so the issues of adding content get even more complicated. This is not a problem we’re positive we can solve, but we are working together with Sony to try to bring you this content.

We wish we had a more definitive answer right now. We understand the frustration when the same content is not available on all platforms. When we have an update, we will certainly let you know. We deeply appreciate all the time and support you have given us, and we’ll keep doing our best to return that.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1411117-ps3-release-for-dawnguard-thread-20/

[sunny lovett]

I was actually in the processing of editing my other thread, moments right before you CLOSED it!

Whatever, I thank you for this new thread. At least I "bothered" to give an explanation and gratitude.

I do wish well for the PS3 owners, and that Dawnguard will reach us soon. With my broken playstation 3, I secretly wished Dawnguard would be delayed .

But how long an issue like this should go on for? And does this have to do with Microsofts being involved in the exclusive DLC content?

[LADONA]

Microsoft is not involved with the delay. Bethesda is just terrible at working with the PS3, always has been, always will be.

Currently, Bethesda employees are hiding under their desks, hoping this whole thing will blow over. Like they've done with their previous games (fallout 3, oblivion, fallout NV). But it won't. Their laziness to learn how to code for the PS3 has hit the mainstream and it will not go unnoticed. Bethesda claims that they're working on it, and they had to run and cry to Sony for help.

But, how many people are "working" on Dawnguard? Bethesda won't say. For all we know, they just have one guy working on it whenever he feels like it. That explains why there's been no progress. And as long as SOMEBODY is working on it, they don't have to officially announce that it's been canceled.

This leads back to them hiding under their desks. Most likely waiting for Borderlands 2, or the new Assassin's Creed or any one of the great new games on the way. Hoping for us to forget their massive screwup known as Dawnguard.

[Myles]

Currently, Bethesda employees are hiding under their desks, hoping this whole thing will blow over. Like they've done with their previous games (fallout 3, oblivion, fallout NV). But it won't. Their laziness to learn how to code for the PS3 has hit the mainstream and it will not go unnoticed. Bethesda claims that they're working on it, and they had to run and cry to Sony for help.

It's enough to make me buy used from here on out. What Bethesda really needs is competition to force them to put more effort into making the PS3 version merely adequate for a AAA release. There isn't anyone out there making games like Bethesda does, with the high amount of detail that can be manipulated. Games like Red Dead Redemption have a large open world, but you can't interact with any of the little objects (like forks on the table, etc).

If one developer would come up with a similar product of similar quality, you'd see all of their problems programming for the PS3 disappear by the time their next game is released.

[Brentleah Jeffs]

Pfft I don't even care anymore, I just came back fro mthe greatest date ever, not even a longer delay of DG will bring me down!

[Anna Watts]

For the first time I'm really starting to worry that both DG and HF won't see the light on PS3. We've had it confirmed by Sony that they're working with Bethesda and yet still no news on how that is going. I'm sure they would want DG on the PS3 as like others if it doesn't appear on the PS3 then I won't buy another Bethesda game again therefore losing more customers.

I just wonder if HF would be as much trouble as DG so that maybe they could release HF 1st and then DG afterwards or as a package where you buy both at a cheaper price but the longer it goes on the less likely it seems.

[Misty lt]

i have a question for bethesda (or bugthesda like we say on France^^)

If the DLC can't release because of the problem's with the RAM system of the PS3, why don't you release it on a small parts?

To me, the only thing i wait to this DLC, it's the vampire lord form. New Quest, new faction, new map, i don't care about but the vampire lord form is important for all PS3 users who have a save with a vampire. (i think players with werewolf or not don't care about of the vampire lord form)

So, why don't you release only the part with Serana and Harkon to gain the vampire lord form (and maybe the quest with if it work)? And later if the PS3 can acquire more DLC, you release the Dawnguard fortress (and maybe the quest if it work)? And more later, if all work, you release the other part of the Dawnguard DLC.

But, like this, the PS3 users can download only what he need (and what he can). If someone want only the vampire lord form, he can. If he want only the Dawnguard, he can. If he want the vampire lord and the new map, he can. If he want the Dawnguard and the new map, he can.

And if he downloads all of the DLC and the PS3 bug, it was his choice, not yours. But if he downloads all of the DLC and the PS3 doesn't bug, it was his choice too.

[Robert]

Ok a couple things. First off, the ps3 is NOT a weak machine. It can (and HAS) blown the 360 away on a couple games. Anyone seen the metal gear solid ground zero trailer? Do me a favor and youtube it, then come back and tell me how weak it is. PLUS its an open world like skyrim. This is not a question of how 'weak' the ps3 is. This is more about a company who has constantly used their sony fanbase and exploited them with every game they port (and refused to fix, i might add) to the system. The problem here is simple. We ps3 users have done nothing but give these greedy jerks our money for subpar products since day one. Either they svck at coding or they dont care. This is not the systems fault. Its Bethesda.

[latrina]

It has been http://www.bethblog.com/2012/08/02/dawnguard-ps3-update/ that the PS3 version will be delayed a bit as they are still working to ensure acceptable performance

someone have to explain and define what "a bit" and "acceptable" means for bethesda
perhaps hines himself or gstaff can "enlighten us" about this mistery


because for me "a bit" could be in the worst scenario a month,and "acceptable" is far more than the ps3 "performances" that i've seen until now with this game (and for the record even on my xbox and pc versions there are too many issues for my tastes)

i can understand the difficulty that a huge open world game like this could bring on such obsolete machines in terms of performance,but we are talkin' of programming difficulties here, and other companies like cd project - conscious of their "limits" - in the same situation have decided to cancel/delay the release for that platform

[Chrissie Pillinger]

I just hope they don't do any of this crap to Fallout 4.

Firstly I agree with those who disagree with your assesment of the PS3's capabilities when you based your opinion on how two games, both associated with a developer renowned for being sub standard when it comes to coding on the PS3.

Now to the quote :-

Fallout 4 is using the Gamebryo engine again, yes that's what's behind Skyrim so your hope may well be in vain, keep an eye out on how many reviewers get the PS3 version just to be on the safe side.

Anyway if you are that unhappy with your PS3, go buy an XBox or whatever platform you percieve a hardcoe gamer should be using.

[Danny Blight]

@Qua'Nah. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but yours on blaming Sony also as a weak console is quite amusing. Its not sonys fault at all. There is so many games that run completely fine on the ps3. And if you see the ps3 exclusives aka god of war or uncharted or metal gear then you would see its not a weak console. The ps3 is very powerful console an more powerful then you think. Even stated by bethesda to. I'm not going to go into the tech side with the CPU/GPU ect ect because I'm fed up with explaining it from that side of things.

The problem is Bethesda uses an engine that was designed around/on xbox then they try to port that on the ps3 but obviously the ps3 doesn't really understand that. Bethesda should of learned how to code/make games for the ps3 but they haven't they always get it wrong with these sort of games. They got it wrong with oblivion so they payed ps3 devs (4jstudios) to port this and they made it work completely fine. If you have coders who know how to make/build/code games for the ps3 then you see great results.

Bethesda never learned their lesson also never learned the way of the ps3 so they are to blame. They should not actually even try and make gsmes for the ps3 if they don't know how.

I wouldn't call an xbox a weak system if it couldn't run uncharted 3 if it was a multiplatform game but designed arounnd the ps3. I would say they need to learn how to code for xbox vice versa.

They are both different systems with different ways of running/coding. This copy and paste then add band aids (patches) don't work. Either learn how to make for certain platforms or just stop making if they can't. Bodge jobs are never a good final product.

[Charles Weber]

I can be more patient for Dawnguard now. I have owned Skyrim since Christmas....and i am just now starting the "Main quest" I have become a storm cloak...and am fighting in the war. I have already become Arch Mage...and i am ALL POWERFUL!!! HA HA HA!!!!! I love skyrim!!!!

[Arrogant SId]

Lol storm I'm still having fun with skyrim to as I have modded game saves which brings a lot of fun to it like god mode super speed ect it brings more re play ability for fun

[Charles Weber]

21 threads and still nothing? Come on beth get your [censored] together.

[SiLa]

...21 threads of people angrily going "Take my money already!!!"

Bethesda, lrn2business

[Daramis McGee]

...21 threads of people angrily going "Fix the game and enable DLC as was advertised"!!!"

Bethesda, sticking fingers in it's ears since 11/11/11

Fixed for you

[Vicki Gunn]

Ok a couple things. First off, the ps3 is NOT a weak machine. It can (and HAS) blown the 360 away on a couple games. Anyone seen the metal gear solid ground zero trailer? Do me a favor and youtube it, then come back and tell me how weak it is. PLUS its an open world like skyrim. This is not a question of how 'weak' the ps3 is. This is more about a company who has constantly used their sony fanbase and exploited them with every game they port (and refused to fix, i might add) to the system. The problem here is simple. We ps3 users have done nothing but give these greedy jerks our money for subpar products since day one. Either they svck at coding or they dont care. This is not the systems fault. Its Bethesda.

Erm it turns out that the demo you speak of that is available on youtube for the new metal gear solid, was demoed on a PC! Not on a PS3, so it might look completely different on PS3 (and it for sure will look less good on it) then on the PC.

The graphics of that demo are so good, it exceeds PS3 graphic-ability by far my friend. PS4 will be able to play these graphics and possibly beyond but for sure not PS3.
I have seen Skyrim on PS3 and it doesn't look very good when comparing to pc.

[Stacey Mason]

Erm it turns out that the demo you speak of that is available on youtube for the new metal gear solid, was demoed on a PC! Not on a PS3, so it might look completely different on PS3 (and it for sure will look less good on it) then on the PC.

The graphics of that demo are so good, it exceeds PS3 graphic-ability by far my friend. PS4 will be able to play these graphics and possibly beyond but for sure not PS3.
I have seen Skyrim on PS3 and it doesn't look very good when comparing to pc.

Small point, the poster you quoted was comparing the PS3 to XBox in response to another user claiming the PS3 was a weak console - OK quoted poster may have mis-quoted the source of the Youtube video but he was never comaring it against PC.

Oh and demos have been done showing exactly what the PS3 is capable of graphics wise and it's a lot more than has been utilised by Dev's in general as for a full game, compromises tend to be necessary, even on PC.

[Teghan Harris]

Small point, the poster you quoted was comparing the PS3 to XBox in response to another user claiming the PS3 was a weak console - OK quoted poster may have mis-quoted the source of the Youtube video but he was never comaring it against PC.

Sorry I am not trying to start a PC vs PS3 comparison here, I am just trying to point out that you cannot use that demo of the new metal gear solid (which was demoed on PC) as an example of PS3's capability. Although I am pro-PS3 and anti XBOX as I am against B.Gates

[Genocidal Cry]

Hoping for us to forget their massive screwup known as Dawnguard Skyrim.

fixed.

[Maeva]

My friend gave me his copy of Skyrim PC, will never touch a playstation again xD I won't buy Ps4 for sure, xbox 720 here i come!

[Thema]

Sorry I am not trying to start a PC vs PS3 comparison here, I am just trying to point out that you cannot use that demo of the new metal gear solid (which was demoed on PC) as an example of PS3's capability. Although I am pro-PS3 and anti XBOX as I am against B.Gates

If your against Bill Gates you better throw your computer out then if your using a Windows operating system. People need to think about what there saying

[bimsy]

My friend gave me his copy of Skyrim PC, will never touch a playstation again xD I won't buy Ps4 for sure, xbox 720 here i come!

I feel like this is exactly what Microsoft, and Bethesda want people to do.

[Nichola Haynes]

My friend gave me his copy of Skyrim PC, will never touch a playstation again xD I won't buy Ps4 for sure, xbox 720 here i come!

Don't blame the HW for the problems Beth made. Don't drop a whole console for an other for one game.

[Heather beauchamp]

I love playing skyrim and got very excited for dawnguard then the whole mess and Bugthesda screwed up yet again , i thought they would have learned after the Fallout New Vegas fiasco but no they made the same crappy content for the PS3 , then they expected the PS3 community to just sit back and take it , well that didnt work and since the release of dawnguard for the Xblock (microwave) ive been occupied with Battlefield 3 premium , COD Modern Warfare 3 , Kindom of Amular and now im getting ready for Fifa 13 in ten days time so ive got over the dawnguard dlc and any more crap Bugthesda will bring out they simply lost alot of PS3 customers over this and future purchases well done Bugthesda !!!!