[Christine Pane]

The massively different experiences people were getting added confusion to the collective fault finding the community attempted. You are only partly correct pointing at the save file as it's more the data that is tracked and stored there leading to the bloat. Things like dragons, other creatures, npc's not in your current cell but thay you interacted with hours before still being held and tracked even though you may be on the other side of the map. Pointless stuff being treated as near actors just adding to the system load and crippling the game. Bethesda said some months ago that the way we played and the order we did things in had the biggest effect on system performance.

This by far the biggest reason why they shouldn't have even released this game on PS3. They don't set it up properly to run on the PS3, and if you play a certain way you get hit with a ton of crap. I have 3 characters, one played almost flawlessy to 50. Another is unplayable at level 30. Needless to say that really irks me. If you can't make an open-ended open world game properly on a console, then don't make it at all.

Anyways, recently I broke out a "classic" and all time great game, Metal Gear Solid 4. The trophy patch came out over the summer for a game that is 4 years old. Interesting that Kojima was able to do this for a 4 year old game, but Bethesda can't do it for a 6 year old game, all the while working on the sequel PLUS an open world game as well. Interesting. Then again, Kojima is a japanese company whose games have run solely on the PS3 for a while. Hopefully when they make this sequel and it's on the Xbox that the PS3 version isn't held back because of it.

That seems legit... but I can believe we will get Hearthfire seeing as it is fairly small.

It is small it what it can do, but you have to remember everything you're going to be customizing with that DLC is going to make the results of it very large.

[Katey Meyer]

I would, But I am for some reason not allowed to post links.

That seems legit... but I can believe we will get Hearthfire seeing as it is fairly small.

[Cathrin Hummel]

Pray for PS3 owners that Dishonored turns out good for you, after all this mess you all deserve a functioning Beth game that you can actually enjoy without a ton of problems.

[priscillaaa]

Just read that Hearthfire will be coming to PS3

I would, But I am for some reason not allowed to post links.

Its just a bad bit of article, guy just gave it that title to get views imo. He even has Hines' tweet about how Heartfire has not been announced for PC or PS3-the same song and dance that was going on during Dawnguard's 30 360 exclusivity period.

http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-brief/66238-skyrim-hearthfire-dlc-headed-to-the-ps3-and-pc

And here is another one with that same type of misleading title

http://www.thebitbag.com/2012/09/17/skyrim-hearthfire-release-pc-ps3-announcement/

[Zoe Ratcliffe]

They don't give a [censored] about PS3 users guys.

It's not that they don't care, it's just that they can add nothing to the last statement they made on the subject, and that is they are working with Sony to find a solution. The only things that can make them make another statement is if they find a solution (thus announcing the release) or if they stop working with Sony - which won't happen.

[sarah simon-rogaume]

It's not that they don't care, it's just that they can add nothing to the last statement they made on the subject, and that is they are working with Sony to find a solution. The only things that can make them make another statement is if they find a solution (thus announcing the release) or if they stop working with Sony - which won't happen.

You mean to say they do not know how to open their mouth and speak? these gag orders do nothing but piss off the fanbase who wants to know technical details as to what is going on.

[Sun of Sammy]

Pray for PS3 owners that Dishonored turns out good for you, after all this mess you all deserve a functioning Beth game that you can actually enjoy without a ton of problems.

Honestly Dishonored looks pretty hot, but i'll prolly never play it. Arkane has put together what seems to be a very solid looking game, but they are under Bethesda's banner which is an automatic deal-breaker for me atm.


1) Release Dawnguard and any other DLC to the PS3(as DLC and not a separate purchasable compilation disk, like was promised from the get go).

2) Relocate Hines to another dept.(i know how business culture can be, i dont think he needs to be terminated, but he is NOT a good front-man for Bethesda).

3) A real apology for their treatment of ~30% of their Skyrim customer base.


I would consider getting Dishonored if even #3 was all that Bethesda could swing, but since that isn't going to happen....

[Peter P Canning]

Welp........back to the delayedgaurd prediction, how many more threads you guys think will go still?

me still aiming for 51.

[Lori Joe]

You mean to say they do not know how to open their mouth and speak? these gag orders do nothing but piss off the fanbase who wants to know technical details as to what is going on.

It's not a gag order - it's just that the only thing they can say is what they've already said, so there's no point in repeating themselves.

[Richus Dude]

It's not a gag order - it's just that the only thing they can say is what they've already said, so there's no point in repeating themselves.

And like i said maybe they can provide some technical details as to what is happening until they hear more. Im not talking trade secrets i am talking about what is causing the hiccups in a brief explanation.

[Laura-Jayne Lee]

Pray for PS3 owners that Dishonored turns out good for you, after all this mess you all deserve a functioning Beth game that you can actually enjoy without a ton of problems.

This person was going to get Dishonored, but not anymore. After the mess and lack of timely support on previous titles such as Fallout3, New Vegas, and Brink to go along with Skyrim, I'm done with Bethesda for now.

Brink support was really bad too, and the no-speaky deal that they've done was probably the worst PR that I've ever encountered. Skyrim ranks up there pretty high, but Brink...wow. Just a complete mess on a game that had great potential, but ultimately was overhyped.

[Ana Torrecilla Cabeza]

waaaaaw still didnt release i dont even care about dawnguard anymore good job bethesda ps3 users also plays skyrim and you just missed it up for them

[Helen Quill]

Welp........back to the delayedgaurd prediction, how many more threads you guys think will go still?

me still aiming for 51.

I don't remember if i gave a prediction before, but i'm gonna say now i really doubt Dawnguard or any other DLC will be coming to the PS3. I'm guessing the thread progression will continue until some Bethesda big-wig says its ok to close it and some real loud and obnoxious over-the-top angry PS3 customer gives them a chance to lock it and never reopen.

[jess hughes]

This person was going to get Dishonored, but not anymore. After the mess and lack of timely support on previous titles such as Fallout3, New Vegas, and Brink to go along with Skyrim, I'm done with Bethesda for now.

Brink support was really bad too, and the no-speaky deal that they've done was probably the worst PR that I've ever encountered. Skyrim ranks up there pretty high, but Brink...wow. Just a complete mess on a game that had great potential, but ultimately was overhyped.

Brink was over hyped big time and was not a good game at all My interest in games is very strict and limited...so I avoid a lot of over hyped or poorly made games most of the time.

[Emily Graham]

Just read that Hearthfire will be coming to PS3

I seem to remember reading about DLC coming to PS3 too. Oh yeah, it was on the back of my Skyrim box, right next to words like 'open world' and 'exploration'

It's not that they don't care,

And what evidence do you have to support the hypothesis that they do in fact care about the PS3 customers? Here are some short bullets from me that they don't care:

1. FO3:GOTY released with DLC they knew broke the game.
2. Skyrim released broken and they knew it
3. FONV:UE released broken and they knew it
4. Extra patches and content for 2/3 of the platforms while the PS3 loses out on patches and gets support completely dropped for 3 months

I could go on, adding bits about their standoffish attitude with PS3 players or the patronizing remarks by GStaff - but those are more subjective. Points 1-4 are verifiable facts which would indicate to me they do not in fact care beyound our wallets.

Pray for PS3 owners that Dishonored turns out good for you, after all this mess you all deserve a functioning Beth game that you can actually enjoy without a ton of problems.

I will never find out. Bethesda won't get another dime from my wallet until they have made serious reparations to both FONV:UE and Skyrim.

[~Sylvia~]

I'm not even being petty when I say this, but we better get some sort of compensation for this. A discount for the DLC that may or may not release, perhaps vouchers for a download to previous Bethesda games, some small content that actually functions on the PS3, I don't know. If we get absolutely nothing, Dawnguard is just flat out cancelled and we get no DLC, I'm gonna be pissed.

Totalbiscuit makes a good point about this in one of his mailboxes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfsP8qHHNKE

The first 7 minutes, he talks about how because of the business practices of the modern video game industry, it can be said that Bethesda raised a reasonable expectation of DLC and a game that actually works when they put out Skyrim. They've already dropped the ball with all the glitches, the least they can do is put out the DLC soon or some sort of compensation.

[Kari Depp]

In my honest opinion, I find it highly unlikely that a company such as Bugthesda will give us any sort of compensation for our wait and frustration, what would they possibly have to gain from giving us PS3 Users any kind of compensation and or discount on any DLC ?

[Javaun Thompson]

In my honest opinion, I find it highly unlikely that a company such as Bugthesda will give us any sort of compensation for our wait and frustration, what would they possibly have to gain from giving us PS3 Users any kind of compensation and or discount on any DLC ?

I believe that if they can fix it, it will probably come free with Hearthfire.

[Spaceman]

I'm not even being petty when I say this, but we better get some sort of compensation for this. A discount for the DLC that may or may not release, perhaps vouchers for a download to previous Bethesda games, some small content that actually functions on the PS3, I don't know. If we get absolutely nothing, Dawnguard is just flat out cancelled and we get no DLC, I'm gonna be pissed.

Totalbiscuit makes a good point about this in one of his mailboxes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfsP8qHHNKE

The first 7 minutes, he talks about how because of the business practices of the modern video game industry, it can be said that Bethesda raised a reasonable expectation of DLC and a game that actually works when they put out Skyrim. They've already dropped the ball with all the glitches, the least they can do is put out the DLC soon or some sort of compensation.

I saw the video and i think he makes good points all around. PS3 users were told(both explicitly and implied) that our version would be on par with the other two versions. That is obviously not the case.

As this whole thing continues, i'd like to see his views and see if they stay as is or change as more stuff goes down.

[Sarah Unwin]

Now that I think about it I stuck between getting Dishonored or Dragon's Dogma which I wanted at the start of the year but put off cause of FF13-2. I don't got time for both Dishonored and Dragons dogma not with Halo 4 around the corner on top whatever DLC comes along for Skyrim. Bethesda make PS3 gamer's happy and get more content out so I don't have to make such horrible choices

[Anna Watts]

Just my opinion I could be absolutely wrong but I don't believe its coming for DLC, maybe in a GOTY but not DLC. I was hopeful a while back they could fix and release DG but not anymore. I'm not a tech buff nerd or anything like that and I don't know what's going on behind closed doors ect but I don't beileve a single Dlc such as DG takes this long with sonys help too.. No I'm sorry this makes no sense we will be in october soon and I'm sorry I think something else has to be going on for this delay it just don't add up.. Been following this thread from the PC/PS3 I've heard it all from the xbox exclusive to the Ps3 game saves to ps3 ram to bethesda not caring on an on it goes round and round in circles with the same repetive posts who's to blam yada yada. Nearly 4 months on a single piece of DLc that's in the same world (unlike shivering isles) I think something else has to be going on I dunno what but this just don't add up anymore given how much time has passed to fix/release this Dlc.

[Elena Alina]

Don't forget we have been waiting longer for this dlc then people think. I keep hearing its only been 3- 4 months.

No its only been 3-4 months since xboxs exclusive release so really ps3 users have probably been waiting 7-8 months or whenever they started DG.

I don't mind waiting for things but I thought 4 months for a pre ready/needs fix/sonys help is actually a long time considering how long in total this dlc is taking to reach (probably not) the ps3

[Stryke Force]

Now that I think about it I stuck between getting Dishonored or Dragon's Dogma which I wanted at the start of the year but put off cause of FF13-2. I don't got time for both Dishonored and Dragons dogma not with Halo 4 around the corner on top whatever DLC comes along for Skyrim. Bethesda make PS3 gamer's happy and get more content out so I don't have to make such horrible choices

Dragons Dogma FTW

[Eliza Potter]

I believe that if they can fix it, it will probably come free with Hearthfire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4 Seriously.

[Connor Wing]

In my honest opinion, I find it highly unlikely that a company such as Bugthesda will give us any sort of compensation for our wait and frustration, what would they possibly have to gain from giving us PS3 Users any kind of compensation and or discount on any DLC ?

Maybe the fact that they might get some trust back from the PS3 players. If nothing was given people would be furious and giving some compensation could save Bethesda's face.