[Jade Muggeridge]

supposedly Pete Hines said that 100% of ps3 users are idiots for giving Bethesda our money...

No you completely misread the article.
Someone else twitted this message to Pete Hines
the official count is in! 100% of Ps3 users that intend on giving you their money are complete morons! All hail bathexbox!

Pete Hines responded with
Thx for calling all the folks who enjoyed Skyrim PS3 idiots. I’m sure they appreciate it.

[Ysabelle]

Maybe we'll get lucky and Beth will make an announcement tommorow.

[Nikki Morse]

No you completely misread the article.
Someone else twitted this message to Pete Hines
the official count is in! 100% of Ps3 users that intend on giving you their money are complete morons! All hail bathexbox!

Pete Hines responded with
Thx for calling all the folks who enjoyed Skyrim PS3 idiots. I’m sure they appreciate it.

Hah! you are completely right it seems I read that article the exact opposite way it was meant to be read.
So unfortunately that troll on his account was at very least partially correct as I am an idiot who plays on the ps3.

[Brittany Abner]

Maybe we'll get lucky and Beth will make an announcement tommorow.

by lucky do you mean not getting DG and can finally give up?

[Zoe Ratcliffe]

Maybe we'll get lucky and Beth will make an announcement tommorow.

Half of Sept. is gone, so i'm guessing that the next scheduled "We're trying the best we can" spiel will be first week of October.

[El Khatiri]

by lucky do you mean not getting DG and can finally give up?

I truly don't know. Would it be better to get Dawnguard but it's incredibly buggy with very bad bugs/glitches that ruin the experience or not get it and hopefully Beth fixes the PS3 to a point where it's acceptable but no Dawnguard. Either choice doesn't sound appealing at the moment.

[Susan Elizabeth]

My, god I just want it too end, I don't care about Dawnguard, I stoped carring about Dawnguard two months ago, I dont care about skyrim I already complyted it and even get a platinum, and I dont say that to brag I say this because now one cares about Dawnguard this topic get so long not because Dawnguard is some new hot SI this is all about the fact that people don't get equal and this makes every player revert to the state of pure fanboyism and protecting their beloved console.
Rather than people taking about how game is flawed but awesome, prefer to scream at each other how they are stupid, or immature.
I just want it to end , I just want bethesda to say that they will not relese any DLC for skyrim, I will not be even angry, I will be happy with game that will not recieve any new patches, really

[Eileen Müller]

My, god I just want it too end, I don't care about Dawnguard, I stoped carring about Dawnguard two months ago, I dont care about skyrim I already complyted it and even get a platinum, and I dont say that to brag I say this because now one cares about Dawnguard this topic get so long not because Dawnguard is some new hot SI this is all about the fact that people don't get equal and this makes every player revert to the state of pure fanboyism and protecting their beloved console.
Rather than people taking about how game is flawed but awesome, prefer to scream at each other how they are stupid, or immature.
I just want it to end , I just want bethesda to say that they will not relese any DLC for skyrim, I will not be even angry, I will be happy with game that will not recieve any new patches, really

At this point, this whole fiasco with the Dawnguard DLC delay as has soured my enthusiasm, I mean yes, it would have been nice to have the new areas and quests available, but there are things I feel that should have been included in the original game that are unfortunately only available through this DLC.

If Bethesda officially decides to ditch this DLC (again, I hope that they don't) I sincerely hope we can have some of the "mini" features of DG as separate (and hopefully discounted or free DLC) like Dragonbone weapon crafting, arrow crafting, Crossbows and Bolts, The "Face Sculptor" NPC, the skeletal horse summon and the updated werewolf skill tree. I'd totally put down good money, like maybe $0.99 for each those "micro" DLCs!!!

[Timara White]

I think I'm honestly done waiting now. Septembers all most over. AC3, black ops 2, and Halo 4 will be coming out soon (yes I do own an xbox, no I'm not going to pay to hook it up online, and the PS3 is my preferred system) I doubt I'll ever buy DG especially sense we have no idea what's going on with it, and I don't intend to give Beth anymore money unless someday I'm satisfied with DG, witch that day may never come. I like many PS3 Skyrim enthusiasts were overcome with great anticipation with the DG trailer and couldn't wait to get my hands on it much like Skyrim in the first place. And like all PS3 skyrim enthusiasts I feel a lost of hope, thinking the day of DG release will never come.
Like I said there are to many good games coming out, and I'll be more focused in those games to notice DG anymore, and with it I'll no longer take notice in Beth.
Maybe I should buy their next game for xbox, but like I said the PS3 is my gaming choice, so I'm one of those that sees no point in changing my entire prefrance because of one DLC, and company. Both systems are equally superior in there own rights, and I do love my 360 for the few exclusives, such as Morowind. Yeah I'm a PS3 fan boy i'll admit, but so what? Were all gamer's, and I don't see anything wrong with preferring one system over the other when you own both

If skyrim was an xbox exclusive I would get it for my 360. That's how good it looked back then. Much like why I keep my xbox for Halo. It seems though more every day that Skyrim could be considered an xbox exclusive. No word on DG, Hearthfire is on xbox now, and If you look at the bottom of the screen you can see no mention of the PS3. But I didn't buy it for my xbox. I bought it for my PS3, and I expected like many of you: if they made DLC's for xbox, then by all means sense Skyrim is on PS3 they'll release it for it too.

But Bethesda, Bethesda never changes.

[Milad Hajipour]

I think I'll just stick with games that I know work on the PS3 at this point, which is pretty much anything not made by Bethesda. I used to own both the 360 and the PS3. By the time I hit my third 360 from RRODs I decided I was better off with my fat PS3 that I still have from launch. I've played through Amalur, Batman, Borderlands, Mass Effect, and Assassin's Creed to name a few multiplatform games and I have never encountered as many issues as I have with a Beth game on the PS3. I bought Skyrim under the pretense that they had at least gained some knowledge on how to work with the PS3 and would have created a fairly well functioning game for it. But clearly Beth cannot be bothered to take the time to learn how to properly code their games for the PS3 nor keep their fanbase informed on what is going on internally. All we really have for information is Pete Hines, and he's about as helpful as those "fixes" for PS3 Skyrim.

[Rachyroo]

behtesda just doesnt care anymore. But i really expect them to release it within a week or two. If it doesnt come out in september, it wont come out at all.

[zoe]

I've been following these threads since before the PC release and I only decided now to make an account. These threads haven't really changed. sigh....

[Charlotte Buckley]

In the case of Oblivion, Bethesda studios didn't do the port it was 4J Studios, and at the time there was only a fraction of the ps3 consoles out that there are now.(Oblivion pre-dates trophies its so old). So it wasn't seen as profitable at the time to do the little DLC's.

He's right on that, but mainly I don't buy tiny dlc's like "Warriors Keep" for 9.99$ because it's not worth it if it was something like Shivering Isles hell yeah I'd spend the cash on it, believe me Morrowinds port to xbox was horrible *chuckles* remember the infamous "Your Disc is Dirty Clean It" error?

[loste juliana]

They don't give a [censored] about PS3 users guys.

[kyle pinchen]

Im not even going to buy it now lol i have moved on to different games

[Emily Jeffs]

For the first time I'm really starting to worry that both DG and HF won't see the light on PS3. We've had it confirmed by Sony that they're working with Bethesda and yet still no news on how that is going. I'm sure they would want DG on the PS3 as like others if it doesn't appear on the PS3 then I won't buy another Bethesda game again therefore losing more customers.

I just wonder if HF would be as much trouble as DG so that maybe they could release HF 1st and then DG afterwards or as a package where you buy both at a cheaper price but the longer it goes on the less likely it seems.

I wouldn't mind that actually, that would give PS3 owners earlier content. Give it a go Bethesda!

[Jessica Phoenix]

I play on PS3 (two actually, since the first one died) and have noticed slightly different things.

Fallout 3 with DLC is by far the buggiest game I've played on this platform. Early game is fine, but once you creep over 10MB save files, the game lags and freezes very often. My level 30 character had a 14MB save file, and I just gave up in the end. I have a theory that random encounters loading behind the scenes are the cause, I frequently got freezes in the same locations - the small valley on the way to Evergreen Mills, and fast travelling to Jury St metro. Might just be coincidental, though.

New Vegas is completely different, though. On release, there were bugs (cazador and young deathclaw spawning at Goodsprings cemetery...yes please!, also many freezes outside the Hidden Valley bunker) but not necessarily related to the game engine itself. Even my level 30+ characters rarely have a save file much over 10MB. I don't know what they did, but Obsidian managed to keep the save files under control throughout the game. New Vegas, even with DLC, is many times more stable than Fallout 3.

Skyrim is largely the same, my only character to date has a save file of 10MB exactly, and is around level 39. Very few frame rate drops, and I can count the number of freezes on one hand.

And remember, I've used two PS3s, with the same results in each case. Maybe I'm just lucky, but with such varying reports from different users, it's no wonder the problem was hard to pin down. But I do believe that it all goes back to the save file.

[City Swagga]

Im not even going to buy it now lol i have moved on to different games

This exactly. For that same $20.00 I can buy a great pre-owned game that RUNS like a dream. There are lots out there. I think it's time to say goodbye to Skyrim.

[Verity Hurding]

I play on PS3 (two actually, since the first one died) and have noticed slightly different things.

Fallout 3 with DLC is by far the buggiest game I've played on this platform. Early game is fine, but once you creep over 10MB save files, the game lags and freezes very often. My level 30 character had a 14MB save file, and I just gave up in the end. I have a theory that random encounters loading behind the scenes are the cause, I frequently got freezes in the same locations - the small valley on the way to Evergreen Mills, and fast travelling to Jury St metro. Might just be coincidental, though.

New Vegas is completely different, though. On release, there were bugs (cazador and young deathclaw spawning at Goodsprings cemetery...yes please!, also many freezes outside the Hidden Valley bunker) but not necessarily related to the game engine itself. Even my level 30+ characters rarely have a save file much over 10MB. I don't know what they did, but Obsidian managed to keep the save files under control throughout the game. New Vegas, even with DLC, is many times more stable than Fallout 3.

Skyrim is largely the same, my only character to date has a save file of 10MB exactly, and is around level 39. Very few frame rate drops, and I can count the number of freezes on one hand.

And remember, I've used two PS3s, with the same results in each case. Maybe I'm just lucky, but with such varying reports from different users, it's no wonder the problem was hard to pin down. But I do believe that it all goes back to the save file.

I was the same way, but 1.7 hit me like a ton of bricks. Suddenly, I'm getting all of the problems other people reported - and I mean ALL of them.

[JLG]

I've used two PS3s, with the same results in each case. Maybe I'm just lucky, but with such varying reports from different users, it's no wonder the problem was hard to pin down. But I do believe that it all goes back to the save file.

The massively different experiences people were getting added confusion to the collective fault finding the community attempted. You are only partly correct pointing at the save file as it's more the data that is tracked and stored there leading to the bloat. Things like dragons, other creatures, npc's not in your current cell but thay you interacted with hours before still being held and tracked even though you may be on the other side of the map. Pointless stuff being treated as near actors just adding to the system load and crippling the game. Bethesda said some months ago that the way we played and the order we did things in had the biggest effect on system performance.

I was the same way, but 1.7 hit me like a ton of bricks. Suddenly, I'm getting all of the problems other people reported - and I mean ALL of them.

Added as emphasis to what I said above, 1.07 will have done nothing to the savefile but it has the potential to cripple the game, even if it was working fine. It effectively kicked the scaffolding of the game and some of the platforms went wonky or fell off completely.

The chances of savegame corruption are what upsets me most as for many issues a deletion of gamedata and patch data followed by re-installation is needed with every attempt having the chances of corruption.

Before anyone gets picky as I stated patches don't modify savegames, they don't in a bug corrective sense but there is a capture process that marks the savegame as compatible with the patch version installed (Simple explanation).

[Breautiful]

The massively different experiences people were getting added confusion to the collective fault finding the community attempted. You are only partly correct pointing at the save file as it's more the data that is tracked and stored there leading to the bloat. Things like dragons, other creatures, npc's not in your current cell but thay you interacted with hours before still being held and tracked even though you may be on the other side of the map. Pointless stuff being treated as near actors just adding to the system load and crippling the game. Bethesda said some months ago that the way we played and the order we did things in had the biggest effect on system performance.

Interesting, do you have a link to this by any chance?

This seems like a strange thing for them to say given that it's a sandbox, do whatever you want, whenever you want, game. If they are saying that the main selling point of their open world games is affected by the order in which we do things, then I'd say that's a pretty serious design issue.

[BRAD MONTGOMERY]

This exactly. For that same $20.00 I can buy a great pre-owned game that RUNS like a dream. There are lots out there. I think it's time to say goodbye to Skyrim.

My interest in Skyrim has dwindled since it came out and I am 360 owner. Going out and getting more games is one of the last things I need I got around 100 games a good chunk of them I never completed. Most of my library is retro sega, nes, snes n64,ps, etc you know back when games were unforgiving and had quality to them. Only games coming out currently I want are of course Halo 4 but Lighting returns as well when it release next year

[Olga Xx]

Just read that Hearthfire will be coming to PS3

[Tyrone Haywood]

Just read that Hearthfire will be coming to PS3

link

[Jeremy Kenney]

I would, But I am for some reason not allowed to post links.