True enough. But it was nice for them to extend an olive branch, all the same.

well you need to start playing the game RIGHT, you are not enjoying the game correctly

You are right, but....The default = casual / care for me / I have to run!

My question to you would be: Would you be upset if there was no default at all? You can play the game casually, without the quest markers, if the
quests are designed in a way to make it so you have to follow a certain path, and if you got stuck, then you can use a spell (which is in the game), or in the future, maybe an npc guide? or to ask said npc for "detailed " directions.

I think there should be an option for hardcoe definitely, but I do believe the default should be casual because its the casual gamers who stick it on once in a while and just want to play the game with out all the extras won't be the ones looking for the special options.

Yes, I can switch off the quest markers.......but, the quests are still too easy. Cuz the quest journal will never go away

Casual shouldn't mean easy

Again, I look back at the way games were designed. To use your brain. Quest puzzles......ugh.


The game is easy, and it's immersive. Which one do i like more? Immersive.

Which do i hate the most = easy.

I agree again I don't like easy but I think the difficulty levels should cater for this ( I dont think skyrim catered very well for hardcoe players but there the ones who (apparently anyway , this is not a hit at hardcoe but I genuinely dont know if its true) use there imagination to add these extras also modding which is one of my favourite things about bethesda should help this ( I know it shouldn't have to but I don't have all the answers)

In closing, I will have to be p.c. here (politically correct)......

Would rather have a game that makes me use my brain more + immersion.

I don′t mind the sandbox aspects, if I had time to invest I might enjoy it...I simply mind elitist people who claim they are the only ones who know how the game is meant to be played. I very clearly said I appreciated all those people who said you can play the game in any way you prefer.

Tried to answer as best as I could :S

actually, this is not the place after reading around more... my words fall on deaf ears

I'm sorry I don't understand the word of that but it sounds very philosophical


People just enjoy the game Casual v hardcoe is just annoying its basically just an excuse to give out about the features or lack of that you dont like whichever side your on

Yeah, and if Skyrim had hardcoe, I think equipment repair/damage would be back in, improvements would decay making you have to keep them in that condition, and even more following NV's example. However, its too hard for most people under 18 to comprehand or handle.

Ok here goes...

I am a passionate gamer, especially when it comes to RPG games which I have played ever since the breakthrough of tabletop roleplaying games. I also work, and I have a family and other commitments, I don′t have endless of time to spend on making a game the ultimate experience of immersion.

In response to how a lot of people I read express themselves in regards to HOW the game should be played I would like to state the following:

-I FAST TRAVEL, all the time, everywhere...I don′t believe that my experience and enjoyment of the game is lost because I don′t spend 20 minutes hiking from Riften to Whiterun every time the thieves guild wants me to pickpocket someone. If I could fast travel in real life between my home and workplace I sure as hell would, so why would I not in a game? Maybe I will miss some fantastic conversation between a farmer and his wife by not taking the time to wander from place to place...I don′t care, I am having fun playing the game without discovering everything, and at the pace I progress I won′t be done with the game before something equally interesting and enjoying is released that I can enjoy. So it′s not like I am going to sit and have nothing to do when I am finished.

-No, I don′t read the books in Skyrim, neither did I read the books in Oblivion or Morrowind, because I am PLAYING a game. If I wanted to read I would pick up something by Stephanie Meyer and read it...

-I don′t look at the in-game time and think to myself "Oh, it′s almost 5 p.m. I must go and make myself a grilled leek sandwich now...". At the most I notice that the sky has shifted from bright to dark to bright again and figure it must have been night at some point.

-I am not bothered by the fact that most citizens repeat the same generic conversations over and over again, I appreciate that the developers put the time and effort to add some voiceacting in the background when I visit an inn and don′t worry much more about it.

-When I enter my home in Skyrim I go to the first container available and I dump EVERYTHING that I am not going to use right now or sell in the FIRST available container. It doesn′t bother me the least that my wardrobe is full of mushrooms, it makes it easier for me when I am looking for my mushrooms that I know that they are in the first container to the left when I come into my house.

-I don′t think that Morrowind is the greatest thing since sliced bread...in fact I didn′t enjoy it much at all. I don′t need to be told over and over again that EVERYTHING that is different than Morrowind makes the game worse...guess what, there is a game that is exactly like Morrowind, it′s called MORROWIND!

-If it′s in the game it′s a mechanic, NOT an exploit. Personally I don′t have the patience to stand at an Arcane Enchanter table and click and press R to get my enchanting skill to 100 so I can make nuclear bows, but if someone feels that′s what they want to do, then it′s a legitimate way to solve the game.

-I use the quest arrow, again in real life, if I was trying to find a location in town I would prefer to use a GPS than not using one. Though in Skyrim it′s not really needed most of the time since most dungeons only have one path anyway, what I wouldn′t have given for a quest arrow in Daggerfall though.

-I don′t eat, sleep, socialize, brush my teeth or get cleaned in game. If I wanted to play a game about everyday chores, I would play the Sims. If it has no effect in the game that I desire, I don′t do it. If brushing my teeth would give me a +15% frost resistance I would brush them all the time. It′s not like I am reading an adventure book or watching an actionmovie and think to myself, this would be so much more realistic and better if it portrayed Gandalf eating pancakes and trimming his toenails, why would I expect these things from a game in order for it to be entertaining?

We are the 99% of gamers...we like playing our games casually!
(Putting on my +75 Fire Resistance boots in preparation for the flames)

Nice one

I must say I still enjoy the game. I just wish some things were different. But, you better believe when ck comes out, my pc modded Skyrim will test
me until I cry to the gods to allow me to cheat.

I lost my ck disc for morrowind....

But yes I will have great fun with the ck in Skyrim I will deffo try ( no guarantees on success ) to make a morrowind style journal

Please tell me you're kidding about the "people under 18" thing. Please...