Ok I'll say it... Skyrim is not that great of a game... : V - Skyrim

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:40 am

Metal Gear look like [censored]! Uncharted is nothing special! Go play Witcher 2 on PC and get the clue what is the great game looks, sounds and plays like

I have played Witcher 2 and it really wasnt that great.

It was a poor immataion trying to be a thorwback to old school RPGs but when it relized its gameplay mehcanics blew they just threw in a crap ton of nudity

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:51 am

I have played Witcher 2 and it really wasnt that great.

It was a poor immataion trying to be a thorwback to old school RPGs but when it relized its gameplay mehcanics blew they just threw in a crap ton of nudity

Never mind Uncharted is way better for you. Good luck

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:52 pm

One thing that made The Witcher 2 such a great game was the story and shades of grey,being able to take the game in a different direction with impacting decisions was a big bonus and added to replay value.As much as i am enjoying Skyrim i will not be repeating the game again with a new character because of the lack of story and decisions,hell i must have completed The Witcher 2 and Dragon Age Origins about 6 times each for those very reasons.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:40 am

One thing that made The Witcher 2 such a great game was the story and shades of grey,being able to take the game in a different direction with impacting decisions was a big bonus and added to replay value.As much as i am enjoying Skyrim i will not be repeating the game again with a new character because of the lack of story and decisions,hell i must have completed The Witcher 2 and Dragon Age Origins about 6 times each for those very reasons.

Dragon age Origins was [censored] awesome. Play that shiz all day.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:06 pm

Aren't they making the Witcher 2 for consoles anyway?

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:34 pm

I have played Witcher 2 and it really wasnt that great.

It was a poor immataion trying to be a thorwback to old school RPGs but when it relized its gameplay mehcanics blew they just threw in a crap ton of nudity

The game was intended for a more mature audience not 12 year old Halo fans.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:47 pm

The game was intended for a more mature audience not 12 year old Halo fans.

I am 19 and I hate Halo.

Get the [censored] over that not everyone has the same opinion as you

the rampant eliteism that has spread like a cancer thrgouhout the pc community in the past years almost makes me want to go to consoles.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:40 am

I am 19 and I hate Halo.

Get the [censored] over that not everyone has the same opinion as you

the rampant eliteism that has spread like a cancer thrgouhout the pc community in the past years almost makes me want to go to consoles.

Actually it could be intended two ways 1. Making everyone who plays Halo is a 12 year old the way you took it or 2. The game was made for the 12 year olds that do play Halo such wouldn't include you in that demographic now would it?

Either way Witcher 2 vs Wicther 1 depth isn't even comparable because Witcher 2 while pretty and much "hardcoe" then Skyrim is still lacking various things that the old one did but alas it is not a complete flop it did have a decent story unlike Skyrim.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:25 pm

A budget. They are one of the biggest franchises in the gaming industry, and they can't employ more voice actors/write more lines of dialogue? GTA never has this problem, neither should TES. Cut down on the books even to produce more lines of dialogue for charactes we regularly meet, i.e. the city guards. I could write more guard dialogue in half an hour than what is currently in the game. Bethesda simply need to re-evaluate where their focus lies. I'd even take 50 less dungeons if character interactivity was improved.

Not sure if you're on PC or console, but if you're able to look at the data files, you'll see that meshes.bsa and voices.bsa are tied as being the biggest files in the game. They literally could not have more dialog without also having to have additional disks. The fact that the two files are almost exactly the same size leads me to believe that it was strictly budgeted early in development. There are other games out there that offer a ton of branching dialog, this game skimps on that, but in my opinion it makes up for it by having a huge, varied world for you to explore (which requires a lot of meshes unless you want everything to look exactly the same.)

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:37 am

Actually it could be intended two ways 1. Making everyone who plays Halo is a 12 year old the way you took it or 2. The game was made for the 12 year olds that do play Halo such wouldn't include you in that demographic now would it?

Either way Witcher 2 vs Wicther 1 depth isn't even comparable because Witcher 2 while pretty and much "hardcoe" then Skyrim is still lacking various things that the old one did but alas it is not a complete flop it did have a decent story unlike Skyrim.

Skyrim, much like all other ES games has a [censored] in game story until you read the outside materials.

All the extra lore by MK and other devs makes Skyrim's story great.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:33 pm

Skyrim, much like all other ES games has a [censored] in game story until you read the outside materials.

All the extra lore by MK and other devs makes Skyrim's story great.

But that doesn't really matter to the majority of the people who play the game and will never, ever visit the forums, or look into that stuff. Why cant they you know, make the story great, in the actual game?

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:24 am

I am 19 and I hate Halo.

Get the [censored] over that not everyone has the same opinion as you

the rampant eliteism that has spread like a cancer thrgouhout the pc community in the past years almost makes me want to go to consoles.

I do not have eliteism i know i have a better platform it is that simple.it's a known fact the Xbox 360 and it's limitations are a burden on developers and games have to be dumbed down to suit the lowest common denominator just look at Dragon Age 2 and Crysis 2 i rest my case.Hell battlefield 3 on Xbox only has 24 player multiplayer lol

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:08 am

But that doesn't really matter to the majority of the people who play the game and will never, ever visit the forums, or look into that stuff. Why cant they you know, make the story great, in the actual game?

Becuase to explain
-The Towers
-Vivec
-Chim
-the Kaplas
-how Talos is really 3 people in one
-the loveltter from the 5th Era

And all the others super lore stuff would basically require that our character spends like 4-5 hours or just sitting there listening to some dude tell it to you.

I do not have eliteism i know i have a better platform it is that simple.it's a known fact the Xbox 360 and it's limitations are a burden on developers and games have to be dumbed down to suit the lowest common denominator just look at Dragon Age 2 and Crysis 2 i rest my case.Hell battlefield 3 on Xbox only has 24 player multiplayer lol

Better is a subjective term, so no you cant have "the better system", becuase the betetr system is whatever each person belives is.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:51 pm

But that doesn't really matter to the majority of the people who play the game and will never, ever visit the forums, or look into that stuff. Why cant they you know, make the story great, in the actual game?

Casuals don't like good stories, they like adventure games.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:25 pm

I like Tetris.

And checkers.

And I put cheese whiz on crackers.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:45 pm

Casuals don't like good stories, they like adventure games.

No, that is a blanket simplification. Only the extreme end of casual, particularly the stupid minority that developers and people alike seem to think is a majority, are the problem.

Becuase to explain
-The Towers
-Vivec
-Chim
-the Kaplas
-how Talos is really 3 people in one
-the loveltter from the 5th Era

And all the others super lore stuff would basically require that our character spends like 4-5 hours or just sitting there listening to some dude tell it to you.

And who's fault is that really? If they couldn't be bothered to properly service a potentially complex story, maybe they shouldn't have used it?

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:12 am

I am 19 and I hate Halo.

Get the [censored] over that not everyone has the same opinion as you

the rampant eliteism that has spread like a cancer thrgouhout the pc community in the past years almost makes me want to go to consoles.

I'll say this once and only once. Don't lump us all into the same group. Just like console players can (and do), a few pc users can (and do) give the rest a bad name. Lumping us all together only fuels the flames even more than they already are, please stop it.

Now, as far as being on topic, I've already stated my opinion on Skyrim. Even though I think the writing, companions etc need lots of work, I still enjoy the game. I think it's a great game...but a great rpg? no I do not think that it really qualifies anymore as one.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:14 pm

No, that is a blanket simplification. Only the extreme end of casual, particularly the stupid minority that developers and people alike seem to think is a majority, are the problem.

And who's fault is that really? If they couldn't be bothered to properly service a potentially complex story, maybe they shouldn't have used it?

Funny becuase most RPG's that I know of from Neverwinter Nights to Knights of the Old Republic had most of thier lore from outside game sources. NWN didnt go through a vast majority of the races backgrounds or lore or motivations you werej ust expected to know them and yet everyone actsl ike that gae was brilliant.

Hell even Half Life 2 a FPS has a good chunk of its information from only outside sources.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:39 pm

Funny becuase most RPG's that I know of from Neverwinter Nights to Knights of the Old Republic had most of thier lore from outside game sources. NWN didnt go through a vast majority of the races backgrounds or lore or motivations you werej ust expected to know them and yet everyone actsl ike that gae was brilliant.

Hell even Half Life 2 a FPS has a good chunk of its information from only outside sources.

That's a different thing entirely. Those games are based on outside materials, the same way a move based on a book draws much of its information from said book. The Elder Scrolls however are a self contained game series, with books inside the game that provide fluff and flavor to the setting. If the in-game lore has become so complex and convulated, that they cannot ever properly convey or acknowledge it in the game itself properly without having to outright ignore, rewrite, or handwave it, something is wrong in my opinion.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:55 pm

That's a different thing entirely. Those games are based on outside materials, the same way a move based on a book draws much of its information from said book. The Elder Scrolls however are a self contained game series, with books inside the game that provide fluff and flavor to the setting. If the in-game lore has become so complex and convulated, that they cannot ever properly convey or acknowledge it in the game itself properly without having to outright ignore, rewrite, or handwave it, something is wrong in my opinion.

Mass Effect is a "orginal" RPG who has a good chuck of its lore come form outside sources. As does Halo

Did you now Humans once had a galactic empire before the start of the Halo series?
did you know humans were genetically altered by the precursors as were the forrunner?

Most games that I know have some sort of outside information that alters the way you would see the game if read.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:17 pm

... not another one... Why! we don't really care. well at least i don't, and i'd like to see some General Discussion in this forum for a change instead of how much no one likes this game...

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:48 pm

I am just curious.How was these forums when oblivion was released?
Were people complaining as much as they do at skyrim?
more or less?
I noticed...People complain more and more for every new game someone releases.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:58 pm

Casuals don't like good stories, they like adventure games.

"blah blah blah casuals"

Anytime someone uses that stupid moronic stereotype/insult, you know that they have nothing useful to say.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:38 pm

Um.. Same thing goes for oblivion and morrowind........ rofl. When you finish the main quests nothing happens. WHen you finish things in skyrim sometimes the guards talk about it. When you're the guild master in morrowind/oblivion. It doesn't effect dialogue.......... and btw theres 12 quests till you become an guild master. Becoming the guild master in skyrim took skill. SPoliers :::!#% Even tho the quests are short. Its extremely worth it. Every bit of it. Good story. Good scenes. Just like a mini movie.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:50 am

Stordrage I can predict that they did. They would compare it to morrowind. Just how they compare skyrim with oblivion and morrowind.