No? I like it so I come to the forums to discuss it with others, not listen to the 3 millionth thread tell us how lacking it is in every quality. I've tried to rationalize with others in other different topics but in the end it just comes down to: if you enoy what you're playing, keep playing. If not, play something else.

Agree with the post above me, well said.

Others don't like it and come to the forum to discuss it with others.

because people don't want to feel their purchase was a "rip off" or any less than the value they place on it. these are the kinds of Folk who overly defend something when it doesn't even need defending. its a kind of mental predisposition. some folks just can't handle someone else having a lower value than defender in question and will go to great lenghts of hostility to rationalize their opinions no matter og belligerent it may be.
no this is not an attempt to flame or troll or whatever, its Human Nature you can look it up if you want.

Its a Forum, I like to see discussions no matter what -DISCUSSIONS- not padding, not praise, not blatant pointless "hater" posts but discussions be whatever that may.

and I agree with the OP


where I agree that Skyrim is in ways much better than upteenth number of games out there, I am not really concerned about how it fairs verses other games, They are Not TES and TES is not other Games, I brandish this title by its previous installments and make my observations from thier, I don't think its really unreasonable to be honest

What are you, 12? Let's just stop posting faults with the game/stop making suggestions as to what Bethesda can work on, and instead just compliment them on the entire game so that we can enjoy the same faults in their next title. Really.

wooaahh wooaah relax lol I'd erase that if I were you, you're not helping people who think similar to you, if you desire to be taken seriously then discuss seriously and let the mods handle the inflammant posts.


the most fire proof post and poster is to calmly and collectively put forward -YOUR- concerns and observations, you're not entirely original so there are people who will agree and put their spin on it.

so optimal form?

Concern

Why is it a Concern

Why should anyone care

Solution

leave opening for additional Opinions

Works right?

Skyrim, is a pretty interactive fantasy movie and that is all.

Do you say this because, like a movie you can watch and take part but ultimate lack total control over what happens? or rather the ability to change the course of the film because no matter what you do its all the same in the end? are their games that give you otherwise? significantly I mean.




well look TES isn't Mass effect or Dragon age, its not like every waking moment of those 120 hours is packed with fun and uniqueness, their are peeps who've burnt maybe 10-20 hours over the course of their play on crafting...and crafting isn't exactly the holy grail of joy or divergence in outcomes lol

Nobody. And I mean Nobody sinks 120 hours into a game and "does not like it" - I am wondering if the OP is just now finding some niggling things that irritate him. But to say you don't like it after sinking that much time into a game is odd.

What if you enjoy it but find it lacking in many regards?

I won't even bother writing about games I don't like, won't waste my time. But there hasn't ever been a game (even my favorites of favorites) that I haven't had some criticisms about.

There are a lot of details in Skyrim that need to be pointed out by fans because it seems like BGS and the gaming press had blinders on. There are always improvements to be made and more often than not criticism at the very least draws attention to an aspect of the game.

Just and FYI, the OP stated he liked the game, he never said he didn't like.

Skyrim is NOT your girlfriend you don't have to champion her honor at every turn.

This. People flame others for asking gameplay question with answers like "didnt you search first", but yet the exact same people feel they can litter the boards with the games faults. You brought absolutely nothing new to light with ythe OP.

You are definitely not alone.

You had folk defending you, then you go and spoil it by taking the bait and return insults, beating the haters is best done with decorum, respond to them with politness, it screws them up, there is no flexing muscle and threatening postures on a forum, here we are all of equal strength, it's the mind that counts here.

Because on the internet thats all you're interacting with when speaking to another person

HURRAH

love the game, but did shake my head when my Orc cast only one spell for the entire game so far ( with help from gear and a pot ) and was still able to become headmaster, my fault didn't have to i know but did expect to be shown the door when my lack of skill was discovered

All three, which is a sad thing to say about a TES game. To me, Skyrim was too much on the rails, if you get my jist.

Well I have played them all spent a mint on Pc builds best AGP cards since the ZX82 Spectrum, Dungeon Master, Flight simsECt,ECT
THIS IS THE BEST GAME EVER, 215hrs main quest... started again straight away..You can please some people some of the time! BUT you cant please all the people all the TIME. The winner here is..THE FREEDOM..plus the sceanery...Of course the sceanery it goes with out saying the sceanery... BUT what eles has the Skyrim done for us..????

Yes he would like things to change, it's one of the reasons he posted this, That is the obvious point of these types of posts which are written in a sensible and polite manner , He (like many others) wants Bethesda to make the greatest game possible instead of a good game, kissing the backside of lazy developers who have the budget and skill to do so much better does not make you a better man.

As far as the compliments to Bethesda that's all well and good, sans the sycophantic really devoted fan worship which serves absolutely no purpose, We're all fans of the series or else we would not be here and constructive feedback whether good or bad should be treated with respect and not the "Yawn" not this again" replies.

I agree with the OP's points, The lack of dialogue options , choice and constantly repeated incongrous lines really gets up my nose.

good point. the next game pry wont be out until 2017, hope they really take suggestions into consideration considering the only big game play improvments from oblivion were made to dungeons in both design and depth. hopefully it will also be on teh next gen consoles where they can actually design the game for it and not port it to the other platforms.

Compared to games like Doom 3 where lighting was non-existent and people were getting eye strain from trying to see anything on an almost black screen. I'm cool with the lighting and the burning candles everywhere. Its a good decision and is against the trend of making everything as dark as possible to add atmosphere.

Return to text and no VA?


My god, I wish.

Well on that point of taking suggestions Lazy, here's my Opinion


I have 0 faith, 0. 5 years since Oblivion came out there has been this lovely expansive thread called future TES discussion/suggestion thread.

now sure a fraction of 200,000(since not everyone participated, BUT ENOUGH DID) forumers isn't exactly the holy grail of order and commonality but its decent size to draw general concenus from people who -stick- with the series. please tell me why they addressed things like the level scaling (from Morrowind to oblivon POORLY, but from Fallout to Skyrim...eh so so) and directions (GPS) but not so much of freedom, customization, diversity, and choice in terms of general gameplay? of which in my humble opinion I feel are one of the major pedestals to the longevity and continued play (WITHOUT MODS)

I thought that was a pretty nifty feature, reminding me of how this works in reality. When you go outside of your moderately lightened house and look up at the sky you go semi-blind for a few secons until your eyes can adjust. Same if suddenly looking down from the sun to the ground.

its not thet i didnt like it, it was 120 hours because i dont use fast travel only carrages, half the time was spend wandering around mountains. it just alll felt samey towords the end, go here kill whatever, i will say some of the things were niggling but after oblivion i was hoping theyd be gone by now.

I have a case of Deja Vu! I've said the same things as the OP before and I've read them many times on this forum. I also don't think it's voice acting that's wrong here, it's definitely a programming issue.

And yes, I'll say it again... Your actions in Skyrim have no consequences! I kill for one faction, steal for the other and oh the honorable Companions can't wait to make me their Harbinger... right! *rolls eyes*

I love TES games, I love Skyrim, but I want to rip off the next guard's head who knows that I serve Sithis! LOL

soem variety would be nice though. especially for mages we get candle light and mage light which are just as strong or stronger than the cave lighting. basically i want everything to have a purpose. torchs have no purpose imo