For me the big killer in this game which i was hoping they would fix from oblivion is immersion.

- Cave lighting - why is ever cave lit like the sun. it is a cave. i want to walk into one and see only torches lighting it so i can sa to myself "hey there must be something going on in here" or see pitch blackness and say "eh i will come back later" only to find out from an npc in a city far far away that there may be a peice of epic loot down there. also i dont ever remember saying "ah crap i need to go get a torch before i go there". enough with the glowing luminous mushrooms!

- Dialogue Dialogue and Dialogue. - why when i become the leader of a guild do i have npc disrespecting me by asking me to fetch soul gems that they are alreading selling, npc disrespecting me when i walk by spouting the same line they said to me when i first walked into the guild. and no, nobody stole my sweet roll asshat.

- after saving the world everyone acts like nothing happened.... they see me fighting dragons and are only amazed after the bones laying on the ground never mind that i just absorbed its soul. but in there defense watching a npc bare knuckle fight a dragon or watching a horse take one down is pry far more impressive to them.

i dont know maybe i am expecting way to much out this game type. i think that if they cut the map in half and concentrated on quality over quantity this would have been a much better game.

Beth has yet to perfect this trade, but give them time

Cut down on the books even to produce more lines of dialogue for charactes we regularly meet, i.e. the city guards.

I just would like someone to explain the point of these posts.

I thought that was a pretty nifty feature, reminding me of how this works in reality. When you go outside of your moderately lightened house and look up at the sky you go semi-blind for a few secons until your eyes can adjust. Same if suddenly looking down from the sun to the ground.

This is just your opinion, others think Skyrim is pretty fantastic, myself included.

Skyrim is one of the most immersive atmospheric games I've ever played, by some margin.



This has to be a joke, or the brightness on your monitor is set WAY too high. I'm constantly using the candlelight spell to see around caves cause they're soo dark and dingy. Even in castles sometimes, but thats to be expected as actual candles dont give off particuarly strong light. To me it sounds more like a brightness monitor issue or some other wierd graphical issue you're experiencing.

im on the ps3 with the brightness turned all teh way down jsut about, the lighting is just way to bright for me....




After absorbing a soul NPC's will react by saying they've never seen anything like this before, sometimes a bit more dialogue depending on location. Really there is an absolute TON of dialogue in the game and reactive dialogue too depending on missions come before. No it doesn't react to every single iteration, but thats a monumental task in of itself. To be fair they've done pretty good job considering.

but after the same group seeing it for the 5th time and saying the same thing....



I feel thats what they have already done with Skyrim. There are games with far larger more dense city areas, like Assassins Creed. But Skyrim feels more personal and real, cause its not all respawning people on scripted walking paths, but actual mini lives being lived out, every single person in the city. I like that, i like it a lot.

Skyrim has its problems for sure, but when you compare it to other open world RPG's that are out there then Skyrim is a great game in my opinion. There is room for improvement, but I never expected Skyrim to be the greatest game ever made, so I'm not going to get mad when it turns out not to be.

I never play "boring" games for 120+ hours. This is more of a case of having expectations too high.

Skyrim looks stunning, like an interactive painting. Its a fun and impressive when its your first rpg, but if you played some rpgs in the past. Its just an hack and slash, deep in some areas, scary shallow in others. Guy in the openingspost is totally right on all points.

Except that each successive game feels like it has a lot less content than the previous one. One would think that the logical step would be to take all the things you've already got, and add more. Not to cut major game features, and then replace them with something that looks flashy, but isn't much fun. That seems to be the case -- with each game they add a lot of flash, but cut a lot of substance.

OP, I have a higher opinion of skyrim than you do, and I think 100+ hours of gameplay deserves a certain amount of respect, but I agree with all of your points. If you play on PC, there are already great and highly configurable lighting mods. If you look at any of the scenic threads or on nexus, you'll see that lighting and the various shaders are extremely tweakable. Dialogue, quests, NPC interaction, and story can and has been done better in a sandbox game, like FONV (even with voice acting limitations). But BGS is more interested in setting and exploration (which they're excellent at) than story-related immersion. It would be nice if they put a more effort into the story side of things.

If the Cave's too bright for you, turn down the Gamma, a quick fix that you can do on even Consoles.

As far as the compliments to Bethesda that's all well and good, sans the sycophantic really devoted fan worship which serves absolutely no purpose, We're all fans of the series or else we would not be here and constructive feedback whether good or bad should be treated with respect and not the "Yawn" not this again" replies.

Am I alone? Does anyone else sigh out loud when they read the subject line and think, "here we go again?"

I must say it gets hard not to say 'not this again' when the general discussion board is cluttered with them day in and out.

What if you enjoy it but find it lacking in many regards?

I won't even bother writing about games I don't like, won't waste my time. But there hasn't ever been a game (even my favorites of favorites) that I haven't had some criticisms about.

There are a lot of details in Skyrim that need to be pointed out by fans because it seems like BGS and the gaming press had blinders on. There are always improvements to be made and more often than not criticism at the very least draws attention to an aspect of the game.

Just and FYI, the OP stated he liked the game, he never said he didn't like.

Skyrim is NOT your girlfriend you don't have to champion her honor at every turn.

by all means dont open it up then.

Again, I don't understand why people don't post this in another thread that is already complaining. It shouldn't be hard to find.