Last I checked, helmets weren't worn for aesthetic appeal...

Any bonuses for wearing a matching set of armor are ridiculous anyway. How can it be unrealistic to lose a bonus which is ridiculously unrealistic to begin with?

What I'm replying to is Crimson's critique of no helmets being too "Hollywood-like". I assume he means it's unrealistic.

This is true. It is unrealistic.


But.... so is the rest of the game. I'm pretty sure this isn't a medieval combat simulator.

Anyways, this isn't one of those ideas that really hurts to have as an option is it? I can understand getting the hate on for someone who wants multiplayer.. it's totally game changing. This isn't. It doesn't get in your way.

It's just absurd, though. "I don't understand why I can't have my weapon work like a bow, but look like a sword, because the swords look cooler but I want a ranged weapon. Why aren't they doing this?"

lol, trust me it's worth it, i've got my 360 controller hooked up to my computer, works perfectly, heck there's even controller vibration. Mods, console commands, the ability to alt+tab and look things up on UESP if i'm stuck, seriously I don't know how you console users manage.

back on topic, yes the helm thing is a bit annoying, particularly as I recall a dev interview, talking about the character creator when he said your chars would look so good you wouldn't want to wear a helmet, yet, for some reason they didn't think that people actually wouldn't want to wear helmets...

The only helmat I like is the Iron helmat. Oh and I like the guard helmats. Those are cool. But all the others do like kinda dumb.

Dorkiest helmet ever: Ebony helmet

Honestly, the iron helmet seems like the coolest imo. Armor design gets worse as the armor gets better (barring daedric of course)

Here's a suggestion for you. Go download Blender and model helmets that suit your fance. And when the CK comes out, mod them into Skyrim. Problem solved...

It's even worst for the beast races. The game really needs a toogle to turn off helms and hoods.

It already has it: It's called "not wearing the helmet". This is rather simple - if you don't like the way something looks on your character, you avoid this by not wearing it. I'm not sure how it can get simpler.

But I agree that hoods should be able to be pulled back. That's how hoods actually work. Helmets are not actually invisible.

IMO all of the vanilla helmits look like crap.

The hoods look good it's the helmits that look horrible.

A couple people need to take the stick out of their back end. What harm will having a toggle-able option do? What [censored] harm will it do? Say it with me now..."AN OPTION". If you don't want to use the OPTION, then don't use the OPTION. As for aesthetics. Some helmets are just mass produced and somewhat cheap. They are to offer protection and that is as far as it goes. Some helmets/masks were designed to put fear into their enemies while others were to inspire and others still were to display stature/rank/title/etc.

http://static2.bigstockphoto.com/thumbs/5/2/6/large2/6255499.jpg
There is an example of fear. Ancient Japanese helm and mask.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/2320871438_bb99a2d47f.jpg
http://www.ivanstalio.com/immagini/Illustrazioni/history/greek-helmet-elmo-greco.jpg
http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00oBmErMWcgaqQ/Medieval-Helmet.jpg

So I don't think it's unreasonable to want aesthetically pleasing gear. The problem is what one person finds as appealing, another won't and while having multiple variations for the same armor type will certainly help, ultimately an option (there's that word again) to simply toggle the show of it would still be beneficial to making the game more enjoyable without forcing anything on anyone.

As for myself, I add my helmet to favorites then assigned it button 8. Of course I'm playing PC and have a 17 button mouse (Razer Naga). I equip it for fights then unequip it after, but it's as easy as pressing a button with my thumb.

Hmm, any mods that expand on the 8 assignments to make it 12?

Yea I'm the same OP I don't like the helmets to much I most of the time use hoods with my armor or no helmets I want to see my characters face some times.

By that logic, I insist that the developers should have made it so my armor can be on me but be invisible AS AN OPTION.

I hate to have to point this out, but if you take an odd request and add the words "AS AN OPTION" to it, it doesn't magically turn a strange idea into a sensible one.

Easily done: just don't wear the helmet.

It turns a proven successful idea (there are plenty of games both multi and single player that this works just fine for) into one that simply points out that it is not forcing anything on you. Too bad the same can't be said for not having the option there at all.

As for the armor, if you can't see the stupidity in such an exaggeration, then it's not the stick that is up there but your head instead.



There you go folks. Just don't wear one. Give up all the perks that require you to wear a full set. Give up the enchantments. Oh and while were at it, don't bother picking a hair style and color. In many cases, don't bother customizing the look of your character at all. Hell, while were at it, we can just make all the helms, full helms and remove character customization completely.

Well I wear a orcish Helmet or the worf helmet I can still see the face I wont wear daedric or ebony helmet.

If you want the enchantments THEN WEAR A HELMET. "I think it's ridiculous we can't make our helmets invisible" may well be THE MOST RIDICULOUS COMPLAINT ON A FORUM THAT IS FULL OF RIDICULOUS COMPLAINTS.

Then leave the forums. I'll leave you with two expressions...

The clothes makes the man
One's face gives them Identity

I'm done with this one. I've no time to deal with narrow mindedness.
You think it's stupid and what? We shouldn't have the option? So your way (the way it currently is), forces itself on people, but the suggestion gives people freedom of choice and doesn't force itself on anyone who doesn't like it. Thus, narrow minded. Perhaps even selfish.

It's awfully selfish of you to object to my great idea for having armor but not having to see it. I want the appearance of the Fine Clothes, but I want the armor rating of heavy armor. I find it ridiculous that there's no "my my armor look like Fine Clothes" option AS AN OPTION.

And I don't leave the forums because there are plenty of good ideas floating around. This ain't one of 'em.

There's also a bunch of absurd ideas, and this is a fine example. The forum isn't a place you go to agree with everybody about everything.

so when beast races have graphic bugs, you just tell them to not wear a helmet? how about laying the burden on people who are in charge of glitches? i'm sure bethesda will fix stuff like that too, and already put the burden on themselves... that's their job. i don't know why you would think it's acceptable. they probably don't themselves. all game developers fix things like that. not tell customers to just "deal with it". lol. it's cool that you like the game and all. so do i. but that's no excuse to just defend every single aspect of it, as it is, out of the box.

edit: Actually, I'm not sure you're serious. Maybe you're just trying to rile up Precursor. In which case, good job. I guess. I can't think of another reason why you'd take this position.

I feel it's unrealistic enough by the game's standards that it doesn't belong in the vanilla game, but I've no problem with people making an invisible helmet mod if it's really that important for them to fight without a helmet with the perks.

And can we please calm down? I don't want anyone getting in trouble for something related to what I said.

Or have the faceplate as an separate object you can take of and on.
http://static.skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/images/5696-1-1327744347.jpg
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=5696
Give you one more enchant slot as an bonus.

THANK YOU. This is exactly what i was thinking while reading all of the comments. Its an OPTION. if you want to be all gung-ho about keeping it "real" then by no means are you forced to use the OPTION.

Thing is, how many helmets have what looks like a separate faceplate? Not many, especially for light armor.