LOL

don't wear the hat silly XD

use hood, circlet or mask

they all look good

but hats are NO NO those are for up-ty snoob fest royalty parties only

When I see my Khajiit in the Elven helm I always get reminded of...

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/97/253411379_e66f15a2fa.jpg

I wonder why they decided to cut off the back of the elven helm for Khajiit...

Perfect description.

I have helmets and circlets favorited, so it's quick and easy to equip and unequip them when needed. "Quic and easy" since i use the categorised favorites menu, without it it was bigger pain in the ass than equipping them from inventory. With SkyUI and it's search function, without that it was so big pain in the ass that i didn't bother

It also helps that i simply can't fight in third person view, so when i need them i won't see them

I have to side with Gram on this one: just don't wear the freakin helmet if you don't like it, but deal with the consequences, like a boss.

Blame your employees?

People saying "if you don't like the helmet, don't wear it" fail to understand that the same logic could be reversed and used for the "hide helmet" option. If you think it's stupid, illogical or "too easy" to use a hide helmet option, or just think it is a stupid feature, you would simply not have to use it. Your game wouldn't break because of it, and you could still be wearing the sixy helmet.


One thing though, I bet that everyone defending the helmet and how they looks never played as an Argonian (and even, on a smaller scale, as a Khajiit). Helmets in this game only looks good on humanoid models, because they were only made with humanoids in mind.

(and now you are aching to answer "then,if you don't like how they look with a helmet, don't play as an Argonian ", go on... say it.)

What I find creepy is the logic behind "I don't want to wear a safety device but I shouldn't have to deal with the negative effects of that decision". Perhaps it's because in my line of work I see these "too cool for safety" folks who end up thrown out of their cars through the windshield or smash their head on a tree while snowboarding or have their brains splattered on the pavement when they get hit on a bicycle.

And to be honest the bonus of wearing all pieces of armor makes sense (maybe a bit less the matching armor one, but that's different). If I see a guy with a full armor but no helmet, you can be sure I will target his head, thus his overall "armor rating" shouldn't be as high. On the other hand, someone who wears all pieces of armor has no apparent weakness, so no matter where you hit, he is protected, thus improving is overall defence. I think that's what Bethesda was going for. You know, the whole "value is greater than the sum of its parts" thing.

Do you play in third person when you go into dungeons and stuff? If not then take your helmet off when just running around, and only put it on when entering a dungeon, then you can't see it.

That's what I do, but I do it for role play, not because I don't like it. I favorite it and take it off and on when I go in and out of combat.

In my opinion some of the helmets look very nice, like Steel plate and Yngol's Helm. It's mostly the light armor ones that my characters never wear.

i hat they way helmets look so i use the mage hood you get from the earlly game thief, and enchant it don't really need the extra protection and that hood is probably the onlly thing that looks good to me in the game for headgear

...This is a game. No one will get killed because their characters wont wear helmets. Well, the character might, but resurrection is only a quickload away

And i assure you, despite my character not wearing helmet most of the time, i do use safety belts

Where in my post did I say anything about how others should do it ? All I said this is the the way I look at it, I couldn't care less how anyone esle does it. If y'all want the option the option hide your helmet, there's nothing wrong with that. If and when that option is put into the game, teriffic, I indeed will probably go on about my day and not use the option, as you suggested, and you can use it if you want, I don't care. It's your game, play it the way you want.
Again show me where in my post where I said anything other than that. Learn to read before you start being a critic.

of course you are against hiding your helmet, you are Bathead! *rimshot*

I'd appreciate it if there were a toggle helmet option. For sure.

If anything, it would mean I don't have to use a mod to do that.

I'd sure love an option to hide helmet as well. It's an option available in just about every other RPG out there these days. It wasn't always so- Just a couple of years ago, this same argument was going on the boards of many other games, with pretty much the same arguments being made. By and large, the "yes, provide the option" side won the argument, judging by how many games started to include it.

Bu whatever. I'm on PC, so I can use a mod. I've never asked for anything to be included or kept out of a game that would affect anyoe's gameplay but my own. I really just can't fathom the kind of personality required to argue against something that would have absolutely no effect on the arguer whatsoever. I mean really, what kind of a control freak do you have to be to be so dead set against something that doesn't affect you?

I use a 360 controller for PC most of the time but the trade off is that you only get 4 hotkeys, I wish Beth would have an option for hotkeys but also let me use a ten key to use different items, spells, and weapons. Alot of people enjoy Keyboard and mouse so I'm suprised that this comment hasn't started a flame war.

I suppose the same logic could be applied to anything in the game, I suppose that's why there are mods for that sort of thing however complaining about hiding helmet is a low priority item and glass armor especially the helmet looks good on khajiits

I suppose that you suppose that everyone is supposed to play on pc.

I'm actually really surprised why there is such vocal opposition to an option to toggle helmet off and on. Most RPG's and MMORPG's alike I've played had it, I found it pretty standard until now?

they are just against something new in elder scrolls

Everyone agrees that this should be a mod. Not everyone agrees Beth should make this an official patch.

I think the opposition to the idea is coming from the fact that Bethesda has a ton of bugs to fix, new DLC content to make, and some features that really should have been included in the release. If you're on a console, there are so many more crucial things you need before this, as it's very easy to take the helmet off when in 3rd person. if you're on PC, there's already a mod for it so it's moot.

This thread sounds like a petition for Beth to focus their console dev time on it, and I'm very much opposed to that.

I'm no expert, but what fixing bugs and whatnot have to do with including a hide helmet option? My guess is, since there is already mods out for that, that it's not all that time consuming to make that option available. Who says that they would have to stop EVERYTHING to take a look at this?

"attention everyone, let's just focus on helmets now"

There's already a Hide Helmet in game. Why do you need another one?

Actually... the majority of the opposition comes from the fact that most TES players want as few Dissociated Mechanics as possible - And recieving a bonus from a helmet you're NOT wearing is a Big dissociative mechanic.

Bioware games and MMOs have hideable helmets because of how armor works in those games - in order to remain competitive, you need to have the best helm available for stat, set, and armor bonuses. In Skyrim, unless we're talking the distinctive-looking Artifacts, you can wear the armor or helmet you want, and enchant it the way you need. Set bonuses are strictly optional, and you have to confirm a desire to benefit from them by taking a perk.

you win lol

Right, because in the 3 months since its been out, Beth has fixed so many bugs on console, especially the PS3. Clearly their dev team has loads of spare time and nothing to do.