I'd rather see a fight and bannings across the board. It's all your fault, man.

Actually that is my general position, but yes, in terms of actual graphical glitches for the Khajiit and Argonians, yeah, they should fix that. They have differently-shaped heads and should probably have helmets that only they can use, while not being able to wear more humanoid helmets. Their heads are differently enough shaped, etc. and so forth.

Not sure what they'd do with Argonians that have large horns, though. They might have to make specific helmets for them.

And no, I'm not trying to rile anybody up, but neither do I feel obliged to refrain from pointing out that "I think helmets should be able to be made invisible cuz I done made me a purdy Dark Elf but I wanna wear a helmet" is a ridiculous idea. That's how things work - if you want armor protecting your head, you wear a helmet. If you want people to see your luxurious, flowing hair and vivid, captivating purple eyes that look like two pools of...Graqe Nehi or something, then don't wear a helmet. You can't get the benefits of wearing a helmet and not wearing a helmet at the same time. I think some people get annoyed when any scrap of reality interferes with them playing [i]Dress-Up Fantasy Dolls VII: Skyrim Fashonistas[i/] or something.

This is a forum to discuss things, and discussion includes instances of disagreement.

Play in first person

*Advice Dovahkin*

Who cares about helmet?


Sorry, just had to throw that out there. I rather like the Imperial Light helmet, Elven Helmet, and Glass Helmets. Scaled Looked like total butt, though, I fully admit.

^ What kind of character do you play?

I don't mind the scaled helmet myself.. but don't like the others you mentioned... at least on Nords. Umm, besides imperial. That looks good.

+1 on this. I'm not crazy about the look but I regard it as a necessary evil.

they have mods to open up the Ebon helm already and the CK isn't out yet.

Thank the Gods for first person mode, the true way to play TES.

You don't get defensive stat bonus by not wearing one. Plus I usually don't, because of how bad they look on my argonian. Don't even get me started about Dragon Priest masks!

It`ll be a sad day when Bethesda decides people can have all the bonus they want for evrything and throw all common sense out of the window just because someone doesn`t have to keep to some kind of limit to do something.

That`s when I`ll finally stop playing Betesda`s game.

No limits and the game will be rubbish, i guarantee it. we define our own existence by our limits- It`s what makes things a challenge and even fun sometimes.

As my sig says a fantasy is more believable when realistic things are kept in. remove everything and you might as well have fish swords that fire laser beams and run around naked because you`re magically armoured to the hilt because you want to see your pretty hair!.

Correction if you want the enchantment, wear an circlet.
next week you have armored circlets you can craft.
That annoys me more is that all the hats remove the Khajiit ears, it actually look better if they poke trough.

I think the idea in this thread is stupid too. There are alternatives to not wanting a helmet.

If you want the Enchantment bonus, but don't like any helm, wear a Circlet. They generally look good and are unobtrusive
If you want the bonus for Full Suit, find a helmet within your armor class you do like the looks of - There has to be at least one. If not, then you know in advance that you don't want the Matching Armor bonus - Save your perk point (The annoying thing about Light Armor is that you're required to take the Matching Suit perk).

If you don't like the helm that comes with your favored suit of armor, then you know in advance that you don't want the "Custom Fit" armor bonus because you don't like the entirety of any suit - Save yourself a perk point.

If you don't take the Full Armor perks, then you have nothing to lose for not wearing a helm. And if you do take the Full Armor perks, then you are acknowledging you want a full suit of armor - Head, Hand, Feet, and Body. Says so right in the description.

Even though I don't like the way most helmets look, I wouldn't want them to be invisibly worn. If you can't stand the sight of them that much, take it off and lose 'some' protection. If you want the extra protection, wear it with pride and swallow that ugly pill.

Having your cake and eating it too by making it invisibly present breaks the game a bit. Just an opinion. Not saying that other things in Skyrim are all game immersion realistic, but you have to stop the madness somewhere or else we will start seeing invisible weapons and armor.

I dont have a single issue with the helmets.

Hiding the helmets but keeping the protection they give? Seems illogical to me. If you don't want a helmet but want the extra enchantment slot, use a circlet. It's probably what they were put in for.

Well said.

When I don't like a helmet, I just don't wear it. Simple. Alternatively, I could look for a mod to tweak the look.

Yeah, I'm all for the idea of mods to add to the armor options in the game. That's for sure.

I think the real problem is that a lot of helmets in the game look totally stupid.

If they added better looking helmets I'd happily wear them.

Couple of examples:

[img]http://www.theknightshop.co.uk/catalog/images/KIH.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.swordsandarmor.com/images/H002203_White_Knight_Helmet.JPG[/img]

like the fur armor lol?

i was hoping smithing would have been like this where you could have chosen a certain templlate even if it ment going out and finding them for each armor piece/weapon like with the matrixesse (spelling?) from SI

i do have to agree with the op i hate the way helmets look in this game which is why i wear hoods with my armor

As much as I still hold to the standpoint that if someone doesn't like the way an element looks in the game, they should download Blender and model their own elements and then mod them into the game, I am forced to ask the question, "Why not allow Helmets to be toggled invisible. This is not like an MMO where everyone sees what other players are wearing (and even MMOs have cosmetic toggle options). This is a single player game that one may play for their own amusemant. Whether they prefer to cheat with console commands, or mod something out, or whatever they prefer to do has absolutely no bearing on anyone's gameplay experience but their own. So why should they be ridiculed for it?

Now I do have to say that any furture cosmetic options that may or may not get added should take an EXTREME back seat to bug fixes and actual gameplay mechanics. But if harmless requests like this can be fulfilled in the process, they should be.

All this means is that any given suggestion is by definition not absurd so long as it's an option.

Fine.

Where are my machine guns? I want machine guns. If you don't like them then don't use them because IT'S AN OPTION and it's a single player game. The IT'S AN OPTION argument means nothing except "I don't want to argue this idea on the merits."

I found a great mod that turns ALL head gear invisible and you still keep stats

its pretty cool

although I like the look of some helmets like the ebony, orcish, steel plate ..etc

actually only helms that bug me are the light dragon helm and steel horned helm and dwemer helm when worn with other armor sets (its good when u wear it with dwemer armro )

I think those helmets look stupider than the ones in-game. In fact, I like almost all the In-game helms, except for the way they keep cutting the backs off of the helms Khajiit wear, for some inexplicable purpose.

I like the helmets, and I don't care to use any "hide Helmet" option. It just doesn't feel right to me that a person would put on all kinds of restrictive armor for protection, just to skimp out on using a helmet to protect one of the most vulnerable areas of the body, because it doesn't "look cool". Also, all that armor isn't really meant to look attractive, it's meant to protect, not to be a fashion statement. At best, if any kind of aesthetic is involved at all, it's meant to be intimidating, fearsome, and yes, occasionally, downright ugly.
Not wearing (or hiding) helmets is just one of my personal "immersion breakers". YYMV, of course.

The best solution would be better looking helmets. There are many excellent real world examples that can be used by BETHESDA as inspiration. The only helmets in the game that I like are the Helm of Yngol, the male version of the Ancient Nord Helm and the male and female version of the Iron Helm. Those helmets would look good even without the horns. The female version of the Ancient Nord Helm would look great without the Antlers that are attached to it now, or with horns instead of antlers.

The Skyrim Roman helmets are not badly made, if one likes Roman armour - which I do not.

The steel plate armour, ebony and Daedric helmets are either too small or too weird looking. The Dragon Bone heavy helmet would look better if made completely of steel and without the bone part at the back. I personally find the Dragon armour just too exotic looking, too primitive and underwhelming in a word.

The Blades helmet is not that bad looking, the armour though is a weird mix or Roman and Japanese Armour styles. The Wolf Armour and helmet are a weird mix of primitive and Roman looking style armour.

Another strange thing is that some helmets will clip the hair straight through it, allowing for a weird appearance. I am surprised that this was allowed past the Bethesda Quality Control team.

The steel plate armour and Ebony Cuirass look really nice and it really is a shame that the corresponding helmets are such a mismatch for those two armours.

Although off-topic, I would suggest to have both better designed realistic real world helmets and less armour with skirts, since Northern Europeans (on which the Skyrim Nords are loosely based) have since ages worn trousers instead of skirts. Chain mail does not count as a skirt to be sure, but in Skyrim so many of the early "heavy" armour and the "light" armour types have either skirts or a sort of chain mail without trousers underneath, which for male characters is kind of silly to look at - to use an understatement.