the empire is dead : V - Skyrim

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:04 am

Please. Just because you don't love the empire doesn't mean you want another, even more oppressive empire to take their place. I don't want any empire at all, rather I would like to see an alliance of free nations. It won't be easy or pretty but its time has come. The empire served its purpose and now it needs to go away.

Tamriel's version of the Eurozone? Could work...

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:20 am

It truly is if the Thalmor do start to come close (and I think just somehow that will coincide with the next great war) I believe the aedra would intervene but also maybe the daedra will intervene and oppose the divines and the empire just a thought.

I think they will get close to their endgame I do. I just wonder what will happen to stop it, the Daedra might do something maybe Azura or even Meridia. I think that if the Thalmor get close to what they want they will have the nation fighting eachother similar to the current civil war and they will not actively fight so they can keep their true focus.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:38 pm

Tamriel's version of the Eurozone? Could work... :biggrin:

Ha is funny cuz it didn't work. :lmao:

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» Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:07 pm

I think they will get close to their endgame I do. I just wonder what will happen to stop it, the Daedra might do something maybe Azura or even Meridia. I think that if the Thalmor get close to what they want they will have the nation fighting eachother similar to the current civil war and they will not actively fight so they can keep their true focus.

True but I kinda think the empire will fight the dominion then the player will be involved in actually stopping the Thalmor while the war plays out around them.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:24 pm

Now I smell a hippy Elder Scrolls wouldn't be very interesting without conflict. :shrug:

Oh I'm sure it would be far from that. It's the empire that I don't find very interesting.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:15 am

Ha is funny cuz it didn't work. :lmao:

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It wouldn't be any worse than Tamriel is doing right now...

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:52 pm

It wouldn't be any worse than Tamriel is doing right now... :tongue:

cept their money wouldn't be gold it would be a quickly depreciating paper currency cuz when one crashes they all do.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:50 pm

True but I kinda think the empire will fight the dominion then the player will be involved in actually stopping the Thalmor while the war plays out around them.

That could be another scenario and I could see that, but what if the war a war was someone other than the Thalmor.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:30 pm

I would like to see the sload return. and the empire and the thalmor team up with the stormcloaks.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:24 pm

cept their money wouldn't be gold it would be a quickly depreciating paper currency cuz when one crashes they all do.

Yeah, but Germany/Skyrim would always be there to bail them out... lol

Germany just needs to start printing Deutschmarks again...

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:03 pm

That could be another scenario and I could see that, but what if the war a war was someone other than the Thalmor.

Hmmmmm possibly maybe argonia will try to invade the rest of Tamriel would provide a cool chance to learn more about Black Marsh and still fit into the Thalmor's whole philosiphy (butchered that) of letting your enemies kill each other.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:22 pm

Yeah, but Germany/Skyrim would always be there to bail them out... lol

Germany just needs to start printing Deutschmarks again...

Lol "Welcome to Skyrim the Germany of Tamriel".

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:49 pm

Argonia wouldn't even try, they are strict Isolationists because the Hist told them to be and I'm pretty sure the Hist doesn't care for the rest of Tamriel.

Also Skyrim though having strong men won't be able to bail everyone out, they've lost many wars proving they aren't the godly warriors and tacticians and aren't as strong as people make them out to be.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:03 pm

Argonia wouldn't even try, they are strict Isolationists because the Hist told them to be and I'm pretty sure the Hist doesn't care for the rest of Tamriel.

I guess I'd really like an excuse to explore Black Marsh though so I'm grabbing at straws.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:33 pm

I guess I'd really like an excuse to explore Black Marsh though so I'm grabbing at straws.

Most likely the next game would be centered around Hammerfell which seems more interesting them wandering around a disgusting swamp of a people who can't think for themselves.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:29 am

Hmmmmm possibly maybe argonia will try to invade the rest of Tamriel would provide a cool chance to learn more about Black Marsh and still fit into the Thalmor's whole philosiphy (butchered that) of letting your enemies kill each other.

But the thing with that is the Argonians are a people who never really leave their borders they are more comfortable in their swamps and their home and their natural landscape and the Hist protect them within the borders of their land, they do not come out randomly and attack, they attacked Morrowind because they was weak after the Red Year and they wanted revenge for the Dunmer keeping slaves. It would take some great goading by the Thqlmkr for the Argonians to leave the confines of Black Marsh.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:05 pm

Most likely the next game would be centered around Hammerfell which seems more interesting them wandering around a disgusting swamp of a people who can't think for themselves.

It's just I played an Argonian back in Oblivion and have just always been curious about the somewhat secret nature of Black Marsh.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:03 am

But the thing with that is the Argonians are a people who never really leave their borders they are more comfortable in their swamps and their home and their natural landscape and the Hist protect them within the borders of their land, they do not come out randomly and attack, they attacked Morrowind because they was weak after the Red Year and they wanted revenge for the Dunmer keeping slaves. It would take some great goading by the Thqlmkr for the Argonians to leave the confines of Black Marsh.

Dont forget the umbriel crisis Caused serious harm to black marsh.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:50 pm

I think the Umbriel crisis made the hist a lot more paranoid of outsiders hence why it refuses to allow argonians out of black marsh.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:35 am

But the thing with that is the Argonians are a people who never really leave their borders they are more comfortable in their swamps and their home and their natural landscape and the Hist protect them within the borders of their land, they do not come out randomly and attack, they attacked Morrowind because they was weak after the Red Year and they wanted revenge for the Dunmer keeping slaves. It would take some great goading by the Thqlmkr for the Argonians to leave the confines of Black Marsh.

Or possibly the Thalmor trick the Argonians into thinking things the Thalmor say are orders from the hist like I said earlier though I'm really just hoping for an elder scrolls in Black Marsh I've always wanted to explore it.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:15 pm

Dont forget the umbriel crisis Caused serious harm to black marsh.

True but the Argonians left then because they was undead underneath the floating city. The Argonians have only left in times that their nation was in great peril.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:21 am

cider! plz explain why u think Ulfric is a tyrant

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:54 pm

Or possibly the Thalmor trick the Argonians into thinking things the Thalmor say are orders from the hist like I said earlier though I'm really just hoping for an elder scrolls in Black Marsh I've always wanted to explore it.

That would have to be some powerful magic to override the power of the Hist or maybe they could try to disconnect the race of Argonians from the Hist but that would be even more powerhouse magic. Yeah it might just be straws.

I would like to see a game in Black Marsh too.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:10 am

i would love a tes game in blackmarsh

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:55 pm

cider! plz explain why u think Ulfric is a tyrant

I've done the stormcloak questline, near the end he starts to show signs of being a tyrant, my suspicion stopped after the end where he openly admits to being one by saying that the Jarls better do what he says because his armies are in their cities.