But it's still the only source that I know of that mentions about them killing babies. And since that book is full of propaganda. It's most likely a lie.

that just becase the game u cant remove the thalmor form skyrim without messing up the main quest

True its not exactly the most trusted source but would it really surprise you that the Thalmor would do that?



But we have no actual way of knowing that, Ulfric could be too scared to force them out because it could lead to a war with the Dominion which he knows he can't win.

the empire is to busy bending over for the thalmor to fight them

Riiiiiiiiiight because Tulius totally doesn't point out that the empire is already planning a counter attack against the Thalmor ANYWHERE in the game.

Check your facts bro, stop listening to Stormcloak propaganda.

true, I could see the Thalmor. being a radical party, would kill babies. But keep in mind that it may be an influential party, but there might be other political parties ruling The Aldmeri dominion that may not practice infant killing. So it may be true but exaggerated.

(And the Thalmor in the second era may not be as extreme as the 4th era ones.)

Well at the end of the day no matter what I say I can't change someone's mind but I have to say when I did the stormcloak quest line to see how it is like I just really had a bad feeling throughout the quest line unlike the imperial legion one and I personally felt like an ass after the doing the stormcloak whiterun quest.

Well tulius tells the dragon born after the imperial legion quest line that the empire is going to strike back at the thalmor once they gather their strength people should do both quest lines instead of 1.

Agreed I felt the same way, only real reason I did the stormcloak questline, though the stormcloak questline didn't really surprise me...I already knew that Ulfric would turn out like that.

The empire kind of reminds me of the Imperiuem of Man from Warhammer 40k, doing horrible things for the good of all.

lol they are nothing alike the imperium of man is like OH YOU THINK DIFFERENTLY BURN HERETIC BUURRRN, YOU ARE CORRUPTED BY CHAOS!!! The empire in elder scrolls does not seem like that to me.

well enough thread derailment as I said before during the stormcloak quest line I just felt bad through out it the battle of whiterun is burned into my mind and seeing jarl balgruuf daam.

Except legates don't get sixy hats and scream HERESY HERESY HERESY HERESY HERESY HERESY HERESY and don't randomly execute soldiers for minor things

But the empire really isn't like the Imperium its very much different and more tolerant.

First of all, SILENCE HERETIC YOU ARE A FOLLOWER OF KHORNE I KNOW IT, YOU SHALL BURN I'll CALL A [censored] EXTERMANTUIS ON YOU,....
And second I said KINDA.....

i did not know aboat the conter attack becase i could never deside which side to pick but the empire letting the thalmor imprision people realy ticks me off

And Ulfric causing a large scale of oppression and corruption into skyrim is any better? I highly recommend you play both the civil war factions before making judgement on either side.

how would u feel if your goverment alowed a foreign power to come imprison and Torture u and i was simply stating my opion who are u to talk down to me

Skyrim has been apart of the empire for THOUSANDS OF YEARS

I think cider does not like it either and neither do I but we know that the empire is in a bad position and needs to recover its strength to strike back and ulfric winning the civil war will not make it easier to beat back the thalmor it would simply make it easier for the thalmor to take over.

Treason! Execute this traitor!

how does that make it right

SKYRIM CREATED THE EMPIRE

I'm someone that knows what he is talking about and has done research on the matter, something you obviously haven't done. The only reason the Thalmor are in skyrim is because of Ulfric, the Empire isn't a puppet of the Thalmor and doesn't like the fact that they can arrest people and destroying the empire is not going to do anyone any good. The talos ban isn't permanent and the empire still pretty much hates everything about the Thalmor and yes, I don't like it much either but the Empire needs time to rebuild itself so they can successfully counter attack the Dominion and push them out of mainland Tamriel then liberate them from Summerset. Its called tactics, sometimes we have to make sacrifices for the greater good which the Empire is doing, if it wasn't for the concordat the empire would be destroyed and the Dominion would be doing more then torturing a few people.

so

so u have more right to your opion then me and if u remeber i had consided your point aboat the empire but you do not have to be a jerk

sorry for being a jerk o.e I tend to do that by accident