I came across 3 vampires dressed as vigilants... they tricked me but it was awesome!

....Until it happens ten or so more times.

The problem was that it wasn't they were user reviews it was that they user reviews gave no reason why to not play it, hell one even said not to play it because its too much like twilight, which is wrong not everything with vampires and werewolves is like twilight.

This. I may have mixed feelings about dawnguard but at least I explain my reasons. And not everything involving vampires has anything to do with Twilight.

I liked Dawnguard. In fact, I thought it was a good DLC overall although I wouldn't consider it amazing.

The only thing that bugs me is that they said they wanted to make their DLC's more like expansions. This was a DLC.

For me, final fantasy died when they stopped using text boxes and the world map - the text boxes allowed me to mentally insert voices which sounded good, as opposed to the teeny bopper "YEAH LET'S DO THIS GIYS WOO HOOOO!!!!1!1!1" which they provide now. I also miss the world map as it injected a feel of the epic - you were traversing a world, not a linear pathway. Also, they lost the creator of the series and it really really shows - he knew what FF was all about, it was his brainchild, and Lost Odyssey picked up where he left off and did what FF should have carried on doing. Even though it still had some teeny bopper "YEEEEAAAAH" voice acting. Just my opinion though.

And cider: videogames is the one thing i won't trust user reviews on. I'll rent or borrow a game, or buy a cheap used earlier in the series one to make in informed decision. When it comes to gaming there seems to be this real elitist trend of hating anything which gets big. Gamers who subscribe to that kind of hormonal teenager behaviour make me despair of gamerkind. It's one thing to think a game could improve, it's another to go "OMG it's rubbish" just because it's popular.

Yes, read the quote properly. They want to make the DLCs more like expansions. That doesn't imply anything more than an intention. Touting that line just shows you got overexcited IMO.

I have no idea who you've been talking to as the New Vegas DLCs were the first DLCs I ever bought that actually felt like they were worth the money. I'm not alone, the New Vegas DLCs were a raging success among the New Vegas fans (whereas Mothership Zeta and Operation Anchorage fall under heavy criticism with FO3 fans) and Old World Blues won best DLC of 2011.

This has nothing to do with nostalgia or new vs. old. Shivering Isles did have more content, it was better written, it's NPCs were more interesting and it cost less for the content you got. NV vs. FO3, both had the exact same cost and ~about the same length (Dead Money stands out as being fairly long compared to all the rest) and I've never heard of FO3 DLC being adored while NV DLC is hated; on the contrary, Zeta and Anchorage seem the most frowned upon.

Yar this. MZ was diabolical.

Well, yes, those two FO3 DLCs were awful. But let's not pretend that Honest Hearts and Lonesome Road were masterpieces either. I'd say each game only had two worthy DLC: The Pitt and Point Lookout for FO3, Dead Money and Old World Blues for NV. The rest could have been done without.

HH was just boring. Pretty, but boring. But the rest were all excellent. Best DLCs i've ever played.

Only Honest Hearts came under some fire because it was kinda dull. You felt like you got your money's worth, but it was barely worth it and lacked a "wow" factor like the others.
Lonesome Road, yes, I'm aware of the scathing reviews, but it makes perfect sense for the DLC as it's not really something a reviewer (who regularly reviews very different titles) can pick up and understand what an impact the DLC has for people who followed New Vegas to the end. The FANS (people who followed New Vegas from beginning to end) love it, everyone else thought it was meh; makes all the sense in the world as someone who buys Lonesome Road without understanding the meaning of anything Ulysses says or any of the meaning behind events in the main game AND the story that stretched across the DLCs? They won't know what they're missing or what's going on and thus won't like the DLC, thus the low ratings on reviews, albeit you would have no clue reviews were low if you visited the New Vegas forums.

And even so, people refer to Zeta as an abomination. Zeta and Anchorage get far more criticism than HH.
So again, newness has nothing to do with it. Dawnguard is being insulted because it svcks, not because it's new.

Dawnguard doesn't svck, you have not even played it.

Implying that anyone who works at IGN has a valid opinion.

Really though, good DLC, just insanely overpriced.

I loved the pre-release Kotaku review.
Now I want to burn them.

Haven't played it yet (PC), so I can't pass judgment.. But I'm more than willing to throw down 20 bones for another 20'ish hours of content, along with transformation upgrades, weapons, and high-level dragons.

Yes, Bethesda said there will be fewer LARGER DLC's that will feel like an expansion. That does not mean it is fair to compair a large $20 DLC to a $40 Shivering Isles package.. Quite frankly I'm getting tired of the "It's no Shivering Isles", it's a stupid way of looking at thing, when you consider cost vs content.

people I have been reading alot of different reviews for dawnguard, each from a different source besides kotaku and ign, and most of them think dawnguard is not even worth getting or playing.

Liar http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim---dawnguard

No I am not a liar. I did say MOST of them recommend not getting dawnguard. You need to watch what you say before you say it.

It's not just the size for me. Agreed. I still think, for what we got, that it was buggy, had a mediocre story, and had design flaws. If those aspects were improved, I would have gladly spent money on it. Maybe not 20 bucks' worth but still. I'm not saying it's a bad expansion by any means. I'm still having fun with it! It just leaves me with a feeling of "meh"

Most of them DON'T, that why it's GENERALLY favorable reviews.

I think what he's trying to say is that even in some of the mixed reviews, they question whether or not Dawnguard is worth it. You're right though, most of them are favourable. But let's be honest: I dont think any professional reviewer would dare give skyrim a real unfavourable review.

then again, it does not deserve a harsh review. it is not meant to be a hardcoe rpg like NeverWinter Nights!

I don't read game reviews anymore. I've blocked all reviewing websites with my hosts file that gave Fallout: New Vegas anything below a 90%. I'd have bought this DLC for the crossbows alone. (Xbox guy)