[Nadia Nad]

I'm very tempted to send him this...



But I'm not sure if it's too harsh. I am quite sick of his attitude though.

Thats just a general insult. If you want to tell him you disagree about what he said about the yogscast you should say that in some way.

[Angela]

I would like to remind you NO BLATANT flaming against notch against the fourm rules ok.
Even though HE DID overreact so please keep this discussion civil

[Tina Tupou]

http://i.imgur.com/dSo8m.png

[Soku Nyorah]

I would like to remind you NO BLATANT flaming against notch against the fourm rules ok.
Even though HE DID overreact so please keep this discussion civil

It's not like we're marching to Mojang HQ and demanding Notch dead, were just criticizing him. If the truth is flaming then that doesn't look good on Notch.

http://i.imgur.com/dSo8m.png

Careful, Notch might make a Twitter post.

[jenny goodwin]

It's not like we're marching to Mojang HQ and demanding Notch dead, were just criticizing him. If the truth is flaming then that doesn't look good on Notch.

Exactly, Minecraft is an okay game, but the faces behind it makes for a very 'Michealjacksoneatingpopcorn.jpg' situation.

Careful, Notch might make a Twitter post.

Silly Fallout, Notch doesnt acknowledge criticism, he's to full of himself to believe he can be wrong

[Michelle Smith]

Seems quite harsh imo.

Not only that, but you know what they say, "A fat joke a day keeps episode three away"

[Cat]

Not only that, but you know what they say, "A fat joke a day keeps episode three away"

Not like it's coming any time soon anyway.

Anyway, that was somewhat mean. Now to come up with something witty...

Thats just a general insult. If you want to tell him you disagree about what he said about the yogscast you should say that in some way.

Yes, that was the intent. And I already did.

I would like to remind you NO BLATANT flaming against notch against the fourm rules ok.
Even though HE DID overreact so please keep this discussion civil

Thank you Borg for reminding me of these things, what on earth would I do without you? :rolleyes:

I'm well aware of the forum rules.

At any rate, when is the server going to be updated?

[john palmer]

At any rate, when is the server going to be updated?

Whenever Bone gets back, which to my recollection, is speculated around December or so.

[His Bella]

The Yogscast were already a very popular WoW channel before Minecraft was even in alpha. Sure, Minecraft has done a lot for the Yogscast's popularity, but to say the opposite isn't equally true is just silly.

i don't really think its all that silly at all. there we many videos of minecraft to come before yogscast that until shadow of israphel had several times more viewship, like seananners, X, and mega build videos like the star ship enterprise had millions of views back when yogscast's got a few thousand at most.

my point is that yogscast did not make minecraft as popular as it is, as people would have had to have heard of minecraft to even find their videos to begin with.

[Soku Nyorah]

i don't really think its all that silly at all. there we many videos of minecraft to come before yogscast that until shadow of israphel had several times more viewship, like seananners, X, and mega build videos like the star ship enterprise had millions of views back when yogscast's got a few thousand at most.

my point is that yogscast did not make minecraft as popular as it is, as people would have had to have heard of minecraft to even find their videos to begin with.

I agree, they did grow in popularity together it seams like. I was first hooked into minecraft by X and then found the Yogcast. However this whole situation seams to be blown out of proportion by both sides IMO.

[Kim Kay]

my point is that yogscast did not make minecraft as popular as it is, as people would have had to have heard of minecraft to even find their videos to begin with.

Nope, they were making videos before Minecraft. They had a long running podcast and series of WoW videos a long time before Minecraft came along. I for one found the Yogscast first through WoW, and THEN Minecraft through them.

[Christina Trayler]

Nope, they were making videos before Minecraft. They had a long running podcast and series of WoW videos a long time before Minecraft came along. I for one found the Yogscast first through WoW, and THEN Minecraft through them.

im familair with the yogpod and am infact a yognaught, but even so there were other channels long before they did minecraft that had about as many views as they get now. they have introduced people to minecraft, but they did not by any means make minecraft

also... why are people calling them celebrities? i don't really think they deserved any more attention than any other fan at the convention that paid for their ticket. not that it really matters to me since i think "real" celebrities are useless as well. and i am not trying to be some notch defense force since i don't really care about notch, i did not even know who he was after about 4 months of playing minecraft.

i like the game more than either party.

[tannis]

Not knowing too much about this, and I agree Notch isn't a very good businessman. But he seems like a good guy and a guy who could take a joke, I don't think he made this up, maybe a slight overreaction. I've seem facebook posts and heard comments in Yogscast videos that's given me the feeling that all this youtube stardom might have gotten to the Yogscast. And if notch is the kind of guy who really takes offence to "f-bombing" kids, then fine, good for him standing up for his opinion I guess.

But really, I like both minecraft and Yogscast. And so I really don't care. Anticipating Yogscast side of this though.

[Amanda Leis]

So it was Yogscast, really though I don't see the fuss about one word that the kid probably uses constantly when his/her parents aren't around.
Offical statement should be released today at some point. Makes an interesting story around the time of release, more indirect advertisment for Minecraft :celebration:

Mod suggestion: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/191903-redstone-suggestion-redstone-tunnel-block/. It looks rather useful and I think the maker has it working for every block or at least comtemplating the move.

[chinadoll]

What the... Just... http://twitter.com/#!/Totalbiscuit/status/138975994471124992

[Adriana Lenzo]

What the... Just... http://twitter.com/#!/Totalbiscuit/status/138975994471124992

LOL

Wow, this is actually amusing now.

[Lucie H]

What the... Just... http://twitter.com/#!/Totalbiscuit/status/138975994471124992

Typical "really devoted fan", taking things personally when they weren't even involved. (Bethesda's wordfilter works well in this instance :tongue: )

[Naazhe Perezz]

Typical "really devoted fan", taking things personally when they weren't even involved. (Bethesda's wordfilter works well in this instance :tongue: )

I actually put that censored tag in myself, lol. I have a habit of doing that just in case the wordfilter doesn't pick it up for whatever reason, which I have seen happen on other message boards.

[sexy zara]

I actually put that censored tag in myself, lol. I have a habit of doing that just in case the wordfilter doesn't pick it up for whatever reason, which I have seen happen on other message boards.

Oh, no. I mean how "fan-boy" is filtered to "really devoted fan", which I think fits better... but both are applicable.

[Heather Kush]

Oh, no. I mean how "fan-boy" is filtered to "really devoted fan", which I think fits better... but both are applicable.

Ahhh, I see.

I prefer what the Steam forums filter it to though. "Hammer Legion Member", or sometimes "Airconditioned Youth".

[Georgia Fullalove]

I can't believe how an unprofessional [censored] Notch is being. Yogscast advertise Minecraft every day without asking for anything in return, they are probably responsible for the majority of Minecraft players, and then Notch invites them to Minecon without paying them?

He obviously doesn't realize that this is their job and no celebrity goes to a convention unless they get paid. Yogscast are being extremely nice to just say "yeah sure!" and fly half way acros the world.

and to quote what TotalBiscuit had to say on the matter on /r/minecraft today:

"They called us "a bunch of nerds who don't know how to run a company", demanded that we pay them to come here (nobody else got paid)."

Alright so, when you bring celebrities to a convention, do you generally ask them to come for free? If you run a Star Trek convention, do you ask Riker and Spock to attend gratis? You expect them to go without compensation, which usually includes transatlantic flights and accomodation for several people as well as an appearance fee? No, you don't. Conventions rely on the celebrities in question to bring people to the event, drive traffic to the stream and add value. Yogscast are not just a couple of random fans, this is their full-time job. I've been doing events for a while now as a commentator, if an event didn't offer to pay for my services I'd have to think twice about going. Why? Because it's my job, doing things for free devalues you and it's very easy to be taken for a ride if you act like a push-over. If it was down the road, sure, maybe. If it's half way across the planet, well yeah, I'd kinda want to get paid for doing that gig, as would pretty much every eSports commentator. Yogscast went to do a panel and sign autographs, that in itself is a service, not to mention the fact that it takes them away from their regular jobs. The fact that no-one else got paid does not indicate a problem with Yogscast, but with a multi-millionaire staffing a convention with volunteers. Having seen some of the footage from Minecon, "a bunch of nerds who don't know how to run a company" is exactly how I'd describe Mojang and y'know what? I wouldn't even say that's a bad thing. The whole grass-roots "hey we're just one guy and his idea who made it big" thing is endearing and honest, but as we've just seen from this rampage, professionalism is not the highest priority of Mojang at the moment and they really don't know how to run a company.

[Maddy Paul]

I can't believe how an unprofessional [censored] Notch is being. Yogscast advertise Minecraft every day without asking for anything in return, they are probably responsible for the majority of Minecraft players, and then Notch invites them to Minecon without paying them?

He obviously doesn't realize that this is their job and no celebrity goes to a convention unless they get paid. Yogscast are being extremely nice to just say "yeah sure!" and fly half way acros the world.

Not that I agree with the way Notch handled this, but why didn't they negotiate payment in advance?

[Curveballs On Phoenix]

Not that I agree with the way Notch handled this, but why didn't they negotiate payment in advance?

I have no idea. Maybe because they love Minecraft and they wanted to support it? Which is pretty much what they've been doing since Minecraft was first available.

[Reanan-Marie Olsen]

What the... Just... http://twitter.com/#!/Totalbiscuit/status/138975994471124992

Twitter isn't working for me. Can anyone please post what he said?

[R.I.P]

Twitter isn't working for me. Can anyone please post what he said?

TotalBiscuit posted:

Just heard from Simon and Lewis, they got back to Gatwick airport and were met by a crazed Notch supporter who repeatedly insulted them, IRL