I just wanted to take a moment of my time to stop in here and thank you guys for the tremendous help. This is fantastic. I didn't even know it was possible until now, that you could go back to a previous version of a game on the Xbox 360. I thought after it was upgraded, you could only delete all the updates (Clearing the cache) or download the latest update. So thanks again guys, this really helped out.

PS: To the guys claiming you could get banned for doing this. No one here is doing anything illegal or against any EULA. No modding is taking place here. All we're doing is "uninstalling" an update and "installing" a older update. (You have every right to to refuse an update. You're just not allowed to be on XBL or PSN once you exercise your right to refuse to update.) Nothing PC games aren't fully capable of doing, and have had done to them many times in the past. No one here is exploiting anything to illegally obtain any kind of information or pirate anything. Just a community supporting each other.


PSS: A friend of mine gave me great insight as to why this might have suddenly happened, and why Bethesda actually responded, but is being very vague with their response: "We're investigating."
This could possibly be a glitch in the DRM system set up for Steam. "Why would that effect the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 though?" Simple... recently more than ever, a new strategy in DRM has been to glitch games so badly that they're nearly unplayable, if it's detected that it's not a legal running copy. In this case, it's possible that all versions of v1.2 for Skyrim, have been given the same definition of what it means to be legal: Run legitimately through Steam.

Well... the Xbox 360 nor the Playstation 3 version (to my knowledge) is running legitimately through steam. So what happened? The DRM anti-piracy protection kicked in and suddenly we have backwards flying dragons and no resistance to magic of any kind. Just a speculation... but a coincidence I find hard to dismiss. Anyone else?

ill be back soon guys i am going to do this now ( crosses fingers that it works for me ).

What patch released on 11/20? I don't remember getting an update.

do you have to clear all the cache from your xbox or just the cache for skyrim also which files do i dl the first 5 because i have 7 of them on my page

I think i must be doing something wrong, when i put the stick back into my Xbox it does not see any of the TU that i have copied over. However if i insert it back into my PC and load XTAF it reads and displays them.

I just got the game, should I play without updating or should I do this 1.1 workaround and then start a character. Thx in advance

Honestly i would try with out updating first with one character then with a second doing this 1.1 patch an seeing if makes it better or worse.

Forget what i just said. Turns out the TU did not download fully from the website. All working now.

Thanks OP.

What I would like to know is the game broke without 1.1 or do I need 1.1 or 1.2 to play it.

Am I required to play offline in order to play with 1.1 patch?

1.1 is the last viable patch and actually fixed a couple of things...You might want to install it if you want the best version available for the 360 right now.

Beware that saves from version 1.2 may appear compatible but probably are not. I've discovered that my character is either unable to sprint or is locked in crouch. Loading my previous saves from version 1.1 work fine.

ok can some one tell me whitch files i need exatly to get the 1.1 patch please. and also do i have to be online for this.

Dude the first post of this thread tells you exactly how to do it!

How about this?

Renaming the 1.1 update the same as 1.2 update. Push to your profile. Could it work without wanting to update online?

well sorry the first time i clicked the link for the files they didnt have the dates next to them. ok do i have to be connected to xbox live becasue i keep getting disconnected for the damn update for 1.2 so do i download it or do i click cancel

ok so i finally did this but its making my heard wonder as to why when I start the game I still get

!. disconnected for the update

2. I decline the update so it disconnects me from xbox live

3. I start my save file an i have the 1.1 patch

now my questions are

1. why can i not be connected to xbox live using the 1.1 patch this way

2. Why my textures are rendering when they havent before and im getting lag more then i have before

You can't connect to XBL because you're technically not up to date. By uninstalling update 1.2, you're downgrading to the pre-release version (since v1.1 was available on the day of release). Then installing v1.1, which puts you in the same exact position as you were before you were initially prompted to upgrade to version 1.2. Only this time you're refusing to update, in which case XBL, just like in any other scenario, has every right to deny you access to any kind of online activity while you're running an outdated piece of the software which could, in the case of online play (not that Skyrim has any), contain glitches or workarounds that would cause unfair play or incompatibility with other players.

It's a good thing in almost every situation except ours. So unfortunately you just kind of have to deal with it for now, until Bethesda gets their act together and fixes all of this in another patch that hopefully does more good than bad.

No offense, but that's almost insulting to think that anyone could evade an update simply by renaming their current version. The entire reason it's there is a protection measure to avoid cheating and incompatibility with older versions or worse, fake hacked patches. To think a simple name change could completely circumvent this measure... I mean, just doesn't make sense. Surely there's some kind of hash check or something of that nature that needs to be passed, checking to insure the currently installed patch is identical to the latest available patch before you're giving the okay to be allowed back on XBL while the game's running.

Naw, I played for hours last night with no issues. (Although, I had NOT progressed the character in 1.2 land - just some static saves around Whiterun)

In fact, this whole experience made me try installing Skyrim to the very usb drive on which I had prepared the cache. Guess what, streaming textures load. I seriously never saw beautiful sights as they were intended, such as Markarth, before last night.

This topic should really be stickied. No reason for people -on 360 at least- to put up with this patch. (Yada, Yada - I know we shouldn't HAVE to do this, but at least we have a workaround)

Bethesda games are like Yahtzee - who wants to play without all the dice rolling?

how unsafe can it be to continue the game with v. 1.2? has anybody lost rare objects?

- oliver

I would really appreciate some help with this.

I'm not an idiot and it looks to me like I am following the instructions for both methods (xtraf or horizon) properly, but neither seems to work for me when I boot up Skyrim. If I go the horizon route and load the update from 11/20 (1.1 I'm guessing) onto my flash drive, my xbox boots and I get prompted for the download of 1.2, I decline and in the lower corner it still shows as 1.00.4....And I cannot load any of my saves. Saves from 1.2 or 1.1. It says they are from a newer version and I need to download the updates.

If I go the xtraf way and download all the NTSC/U files that are from 11/20 and earlier (as some has suggested), it basically works the same...prompt for 1.2, decline, and attempting to load saves from 1.2 or 1.1 don't work and it still says 1.00.4 in the lower corner....

Am I just missing a step along the way? Really would appreciate any help, cuz without resistance this is more like playing Dark Souls....And yes, I cleared the system cache before all this.


Also, did anybody notice on the page to download the updates that there was an update from 12/1.....? what is that?

You have to be offline, not online thats why reverting to 1.1 is not working.