Werebears and Spears... maybe next DLC? #2

Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:04 pm

man, people are still going on about this......it never ends. As I said in another thread. If it IS added its not going to be because of lore, its going to be because people are complaining about it. At which point its just going to me a rehashed werewolf thats slower. and then people are going to complain about that........ The entire idea is completely stupid in my opinion. Spears yes, they've been in past games and are a worthwhile game mechanic. were-bears that are just a rehashed werewolf? Not worth it. But most likely bethesda will add it due to public appeal. And I wont buy that DLC. even if it has other stuff in it. I have to voice my opinion somehow
Do you work for Bethesda? Because there's no way you'd know that werebears would be rehashed werewolves, they could be completley different for all we know. "If it IS added its not going to be because of lore, its going to be because people are complaining about it." People are complaining because they should've been in the game because of the lore written before it. Some people actually give a [censored] about lore. "And I wont buy that DLC. even if it has other stuff in it. I have to voice my opinion somehow" Seriously?? Let's say they're in an expansion the size of Shivering Isles and you wouldn't buy it because there's a small quest with werebears in it?
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:31 pm

I just http://fallout.neoseeker.com/w/i/fallout/thumb/f/f3/Yao_Guai_2.png/240px-Yao_Guai_2.png a http://images.wikia.com/fallout/images/2/2e/Yao_guai.png in Fallout 3 today and I was thinking maybe bethesda could use them as a template for werebears.

Edit: The reason I posted that is because I've heard that werewolves share some animations with deathclaws.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:18 am

I just http://fallout.neoseeker.com/w/i/fallout/thumb/f/f3/Yao_Guai_2.png/240px-Yao_Guai_2.png a http://images.wikia.com/fallout/images/2/2e/Yao_guai.png in Fallout 3 today and I was thinking maybe bethesda could use them as a template for werebears.

Edit: The reason I posted that is because I've heard that werewolves share some animations with deathclaws.
I think Beth has the tools to make a GREAT Werebear. Thats why I can't understand why there not in Skyrim yet.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:18 am

There not in skyrim yet because its not a priority. And I base my deductions; off their past decisions. just look at the pattern already with the vampires -_-'. They were added because people were complaing about how bad vampires were. Then they just decided to make it a DLC instead. Now we have flying demons with no real weaknesses at all.Now im not saying they wont add them. Im actually saying at some point they will. BUT, it will be just a rehashed werewolf with slightly different stats. you dont have to be physic to see the obvious. Lycanthropy is Lycanthropy, no matter what you turn into.
My point is that people shouldn't be all hyped up about this. Its going to be a huge disappointment
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:24 pm


Deathclaws were do deadly because of high speed, incredibly high damage and no way of escaping them. Skyrim has plenty of ways to avoid melee enemies, slightly elevated land, stagger, ethereal etc.

They'd need to be fast to be the DC equivalent of skyrim, slow melee enemies are rarely threatening.
They'd be faster then the PC. Fallout had ways to avoid them too. They were still fun to fight.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:25 pm

There not in skyrim yet because its not a priority. And I base my deductions; off their past decisions. just look at the pattern already with the vampires -_-'. They were added because people were complaing about how bad vampires were. Then they just decided to make it a DLC instead. Now we have flying demons with no real weaknesses at all.Now im not saying they wont add them. Im actually saying at some point they will. BUT, it will be just a rehashed werewolf with slightly different stats. you dont have to be physic to see the obvious. Lycanthropy is Lycanthropy, no matter what you turn into.
My point is that people shouldn't be all hyped up about this. Its going to be a huge disappointment
Oh there you go looking into your crystal ball again...how do you know it will be a "disappointment"?
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:47 pm

Oh there you go looking into your crystal ball again...how do you know it will be a "disappointment"?
I think what he's saying is that a werebear wouldn't be a high priority for Bethesda to focus on. They already gave us an improved form of Lycanthropy as well as a VL to transform into. What I hope is that they are focusing on more content like quests or improved AI interaction than giving us another beast to transform into. Basically, it comes down to how many people Beth has working on DLC, and what those devs want to spend their time on. My vote is bag another lycanthrope and focus on something different.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:23 pm

Oh there you go looking into your crystal ball again...how do you know it will be a "disappointment"?
To be honest I could say the same thing to you -_-' but i go by what they've done in the past.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:33 am

To be honest I could say the same thing to you -_-' but i go by what they've done in the past.
Last time I checked Beth has never made a werebear so how could you go by what they've done in the past and what I'm taliking about is pure speculation you're acting like you know exactly how werebears are going to be like. I'm not stating that people will be disappointed because I don't know how they would be done because they haven't been made before. By saying "Its going to be a huge disappointment" you act like you know everything about how Beth will do Werebears but how can you know you have no idea because I don't think you work for them.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:06 pm

I think what he's saying is that a werebear wouldn't be a high priority for Bethesda to focus on. They already gave us an improved form of Lycanthropy as well as a VL to transform into. What I hope is that they are focusing on more content like quests or improved AI interaction than giving us another beast to transform into. Basically, it comes down to how many people Beth has working on DLC, and what those devs want to spend their time on. My vote is bag another lycanthrope and focus on something different.
I'm pretty sure the dev working on creature models isn't the same dev working on the quests. As far as I understand, each person in Bethesda game studios has a specific job. If Bethesda decides to include werebears in a DLC, I imagine that they won't be the main focus.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:03 am

I'm pretty sure the dev working on creature models isn't the same dev working on the quests. As far as I understand, each person in Bethesda game studios has a specific job. If Bethesda decides to include werebears in a DLC, I imagine that they won't be the main focus.
Idk why people think that if they add Werebears that that is all the DLC is going to be about.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:10 pm

Idk why people think that if they add Werebears that that is all the DLC is going to be about.
That would be unwise of Bethesda, but a DLC based around Hircine's Hunting Grounds could do werebears some justice, in my opinion.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:22 pm

That would be unwise of Bethesda, but a DLC based around Hircine's Hunting Grounds could do werebears some justice, in my opinion.
I agree Hircine's Hunting Grounds could maybe do Werewolfs a favor too.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:32 am

Do you purposely quote people and say irrelevant things to piss people off!?
Possibly, but I don't think so. Some people are just very blunt and stubborn on their opinions on how things should be done, and will not have it any other way. Not that I have a problem with it, but it's not always the best attitude in my opinion, especially in areas that would need improvement. It's not always a bad attitude either. It depends on the circumstances.

And if they add Werebears werewolves should be more of a sneaky type and Werebears more of the warrior "tank" type
I think it would be a good idea to add in the ability for werewolves to sneak.

True, but I don't think Bethesda can do Hircine's Realm justice in just a side quest, I would prefer it to be the main focus of the DLC. But I doubt Bethesda will do this because too many people would complain they are trying to turn this game into Twilight or some stupid thing like that.
That or too much like Underworld, and they'll be acting as if Underworld invented everything from the idea of vampire werewolves (Hybrids as they're called in Underworld) to the idea of vampires versus werewolves. Vampires and werewolves receive so much hate these days it's absolutely ridiculous. What next, everyone's going to start hating war movies because somebody might end up doing an awful love movie set during wartime? Though the hate on them is slowly subsiding from what I can tell, but still, haters will be haters, and Hollywood isn't helping (talking to you, Tim Burton's Dark Shadows and Twilight).

Yeah, all I really want is for them to add werebears, and werewolves that are true to lore, having Hircine's Realm would be a nice extra if they added it in as a side quest.
I agree with this. The Werewolves aren't 100%ly true to lore.. Maybe the Companions are since they could be a special breed, so to say.. But the Wild Werewolves should really have been changed in a way to make it more like Daggerfall's Wild Werewolves..

Also, Werebears rly gotta be added..

And yes, I would like to check out Hircine's Realm. That would be awesome!
I like the Companions idea, but they should have both strains because both are cool I just prefer the normal werewolves.
I pretty much agree with all of that. It is entirely possible to add in Sanies Lupinus as a disease that is contracted by being attacked by a werewolf through DLC or something. If you don't believe me, look up the mod "Tales of Lycanthropy" for Skyrim. The "Core" module does just that, and then some.

They will probably go into detail about the dragon priests or something asinine like that. I actually shouldn't say that because if they see my post that might give them ideas :biggrin:.
Considering the stuff we've been getting so far, Bethesda's more likely to focus on the stuff that fans want, and since I haven't seen much demand for more dragon priest stuff, they aren't likely to focus much on that area. As a matter of fact, a lot of people are actually getting sick of all the Draugr stuff. I also agree with the Thalmor gaining attention in a sequel rather than in Skyrim DLC, since I think a full game would do them justice better than in Skyrim DLC. As a matter of fact, I don't see how they can even do any more Thalmor-related stuff in Skyrim, and I personally think that Skyrim DLC should be exactly that anyway. DLC that focuses on lore and features related to the region of Skyrim for the most part, at least until they run out of Skyrim-specific stuff to do. Things like werebears would be focusing on Skyrim-specific content, as this is the last game for a long time that they will have the opportunity to do werebears without revisions to the lore, as werebears exist in Cyrodiil and Skyrim, and are not mentioned to exist in any other part of Tamriel as far as I know.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:58 am

Considering the stuff we've been getting so far, Bethesda's more likely to focus on the stuff that fans want, and since I haven't seen much demand for more dragon priest stuff, they aren't likely to focus much on that area. As a matter of fact, a lot of people are actually getting sick of all the Draugr stuff. I also agree with the Thalmor gaining attention in a sequel rather than in Skyrim DLC, since I think a full game would do them justice better than in Skyrim DLC. As a matter of fact, I don't see how they can even do any more Thalmor-related stuff in Skyrim, and I personally think that Skyrim DLC should be exactly that anyway. DLC that focuses on lore and features related to the region of Skyrim for the most part, at least until they run out of Skyrim-specific stuff to do. Things like werebears would be focusing on Skyrim-specific content, as this is the last game for a long time that they will have the opportunity to do werebears without revisions to the lore, as werebears exist in Cyrodiil and Skyrim, and are not mentioned to exist in any other part of Tamriel as far as I know.
I agree, Bethesda should finish adding content that's in the lore before starting on other stuff. And like you stated, this is our only chance to get werebears soon, it's going to be awhile before we get another game placed in Skyrim.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:30 pm

I think it'd be the best opportunity for Werebears, seeing as how they are native to Skyrim.

Not to say it'd be impossible or lore-breaking to put them in other games, but when would you have a more appropriate chance to put in Werebears other than a game set in Skyrim?
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:46 pm

I think it'd be the best opportunity for Werebears, seeing as how they are native to Skyrim.

Not to say it'd be impossible or lore-breaking to put them in other games, but when would you have a more appropriate chance to put in Werebears other than a game set in Skyrim?
I agree I think if Beth is going to add Werebears in an Elder Scrolls game it should be now.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:40 am

I think it would be a good idea to add in the ability for werewolves to sneak.

It would be very easy for Beth to add in a sneak toggle I think. Just have the werewolf slightly crouch like the normal sneak or ( what I would love to see) maybe make the sneak on all 4's like your really hunting down prey :biggrin:
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:08 am

It would be very easy for Beth to add in a sneak toggle I think. Just have the werewolf slightly crouch like the normal sneak or ( what I would love to see) maybe make the sneak on all 4's like your really hunting down prey :biggrin:
Yeah, like I said before bethesda could easily add it in a patch like how they did mounted combat.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:44 pm


Yeah, like I said before bethesda could easily add it in a patch like how they did mounted combat.
I agree I think it would be very easy for them to do.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:47 pm

i'm not sure on werebears they would have to have a noticeable difference than werewolves but spears i could get behind now all i need is an female argonian follower to polish it all day.... what i meant actually polish it i want my enemies to see their cowardly faces before they die apparantly argonians are good at polishing things..........
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:45 pm

i'm not sure on werebears they would have to have a noticeable difference than werewolves but spears i could get behind now all i need is an female argonian follower to polish it all day.... what i meant actually polish it i want my enemies to see their cowardly faces before they die apparantly argonians are good at polishing things..........
I'm Sure they will be a whole lot different then Werewolves.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:47 pm

Spears are (aside from more DGesque armor and vampire hoods) my only real desire for this game. Then I can have an Argonian warrior type character and not feel like a derp.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:15 pm

Spears are (aside from more DGesque armor and vampire hoods) my only real desire for this game. Then I can have an Argonian warrior type character and not feel like a derp.
I agree, playing as an argonian without spears is like playing as a nord without axes.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:33 pm

I'm probably almost certain that this has been thought of (and that I'll get flamed for my heresy), but what if the werebears and werewolves are vying for their master's praise in the Hunting Grounds, assuming that's the DLC location? It could make for some interesting conflicts IMO.

Also, werewolves should get to stalk their prey. And make the NPC werewolves (add more of them!!) abuse it if you haven't seen them yet.

As for spears, my vote is hell yes. I want me spears back!
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