Carmilla looked awesome..would be great if it looks at least a bit like her.There is a picture on the bottom of the page http://www.google.de/imgres?um=1&hl=de&biw=1600&bih=731&tbm=isch&tbnid=WhsA47AwV3-8tM:&imgrefurl=http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Carmilla_(Lords_of_Shadow)&docid=n1rv7CDokzPCbM&imgurl=http://images.wikia.com/castlevania/images/8/85/VampireDarkLord.jpg&w=1277&h=720&ei=2NvHT8DfL8LbsgbsqM3cDg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=343&vpy=291&dur=2375&hovh=168&hovw=299&tx=148&ty=104&sig=116714866010944877486&page=1&tbnh=126&tbnw=187&start=0&ndsp=33&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0,i:87

The end where the vamp lord was lifting that Mage guy...that vamp lord looked boss if the VL look like that...booyah!

Do not want, but I will probably still get the DLC if some significant improvements are made to gameplay. That said, this all seems very derivative. I'd wished they'd back a DLC showcasing the unique parts of Elder Scrolls lore, but I guess that's not gonna happen.

Is it now? Do you have a better idea for a scary vampire that hasn't already been seen in some way? If you do, then I'd love to live in your fantasy universe. It sounds very interesting.

LUVEDIT

I think lore is good as long as it doesn't get in the way of the gameplay and or fun.If they manage to have both,the better.

Sooo.. This doesn't look soo time consuming to make <(around 6 months: and don't give me the excuse that they were patching, probably like 5-8 people were actually focusing on that at a time).. No new lands <-- I'm okay with this but how is this 20$ for a new thing here or there.. Seems to me like a Fallout add on..

I also think there was a mod for that vampire.. Gonna look later though..


Was in the mood to color it..

i find this hurtful

in any case i think it looks pretty cool. theres all sorts of different vampire strains with different abilities. Not so farfetched that one turns into bat creatures. keep in mind its unusual for them to even look very human like the cyrodiil strain.


I would like to see this female werewolf, though.

As I said, Bethesda HAD one. It was called the Volikhar. It was an original idea that could've easily been executed in Skyrim.
The Volikhar were supposed to be able to travel directly through ice and icy waters, and presumably, snow. Imagine walking through the tundra regions of Skyrim to the north-northeast (Windhelm-Winterhold region), paranoid as [censored] because the area is known to be crawling with Volikhar vampires. Imagine if the entire area was typically considered "off-limits" by the public for that very reason, but of course you, as the protagonist, travel through that region. Imagine walking through the icy landscape, knowing that any moment powerful enemies could swoop down on you, and sure enough, they often do. Before you know it, Volikhar vampires (a group of them) appear from the ice walls or directly out of the ice-covered sea/lake below you, initiating a very difficult fight.

That alone would not only be a different way of fighting since they'd get the jump on you, but it would give a portion of the map a very haunted feel, making you conciously want to avoid traveling through there if possible.

I'm.... sorry? Could you please explain what you found hurtful in my post? Because now I'm very confused.

my werewolf mod(s) are rather similar to what you described as being "over the top"
was just kidding.

Regarding vampire lords breaking lore. Consider this: vampires in the world of Nirn are shrouded in myth, folklore, and half truths. The majority of npcs in oblivion don't think vampires can EVER see the sunlight. In the book "the locked room" the author apperently believes that vampires pass out once the sun rises, only to awaken when it sets. So you see, there's a lot of falsehoods and misconceptions and simple unknowns about vampires. Whose to say that vampire lords were just largely unknown ane scarcely written about. They seem to be very clever and powerful and likely hid their presence. The Cyrodiilic vampires aren't the only ones who can take human form. If you're well versed in the lore you'd know that some vampire tribes are shapeshifters / bodysnatchers and take the form of children they feed on, only to live in that person's family, waiting for a moment to strike. Anytime someone saw vampire lords it was probably an isolated incident and therefore got chalked up as local folklore. Long story short, it's easy to find these guys a place in TES lore.

Agreed. Why can't we just get Volkihar?

Ah. I just noticed your link in your sig. Looking at your retextures, I like most of them. Can't say I'm a big fan of the yellow one, but the more realistic ones (whether they be black, grey, artic, timber etc) all look like the kind of deviations I'd have enjoyed. I also like how some of them have bloodied claws and faces. Very nice.

I kinda suspect that these may be the "real" volkihar. The frozen lake seems to lend weight to it. i wouldnt get too upset about minor retcons.
thanks! yeah i think theres plenty of room for race specific traits in werewolves that fit in.

It looks cool, but it's not original, as the OP provides pictures of 4 other vampire lords that look exactly the same lol. But meh, it looks alright.

My point isn't that volkihar vampires shouldn't have been in he game. They should have, and I've complained about that in the past. I just found it odd that you're chalking this up as cheesey and unoriginal when we still barely know anything. And Vampires having ice powers is not an original idea either. Yes, the way Bethesda EXECUTED it was original, but that's my point. For all we know these vampire lords will have unique lore and be executed well. Thats what's important. You can trace any idea back and "prove" it's a copy of something else. Tolkien's work was based on folklore, and folklore was based off of misinterpretations of real things. You can trace it all back. It just bothers me when someone takes such a small amount of info, plasters a "copied" stamp on it and calls it a day.

Edit: Make no mistake though. I like your idea. Very nice.

I added a http://www.consolecontrollus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/0-vamp-comparison.jpg from game jam lord to the new one.

I am impressed with the look of the Vampire Lord and like what 4Skyrim mentioned in his video
anolysis, the new vampire lord looks VERY FEARSOME compared to the Gamejam version indeed!!!
The game jam version just looks like a flying falmer. I don't blame them tho, given that they had only 1 week to do it.

And yes, it reminds me of the style of Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula.
Which is not a bad thing at all. It was a nice movie

I have deleted a few posts. Stay well away from personal remarks, attacks on other members and their opinions and stay civil and constructive - if you want to stay here to discuss the topic. OK?

Hey man caught you vid on you tube breaking down the DLC trailer and I gotta say Beth did a great job on the vamp lords, but much like you I would have rather seen them with actual bat style wings instead of the boney stumpy wings they have in the vid. but they still look pretty damn close to what I think a vamp lord should look like.

I would typically agree with you; I am judging it before we've seen it.
However, I'm the type of person where I make predictions about something or someone, and if I turn out to be right (particularly where I have low expectations and my predictions are that the person or thing will disappoint), I lose massive amounts of faith in that subject. Skyrim has done this to me, multiple times. Just two days ago someone was saying "we don't have confirmation the DLC is about vampire lords, they could just be a small detail!" and I decided ok, they have a point. Then this.

I get your point and would usually agree, but nah, personally I'm all in on this. The simple fact that they seem to be doing their best to include all those DICE features (including ranged kill cams, which needed this great thing called BETA TESTING done which they obviously didn't get, and mounted combat, which Beth themselves used to say was a balance issue (and still is)) makes me think that yeah, this isn't in here because it should be in the lore, but because they have this mindset of including everything the devs made during that Gamejam week. I'm betting my money these vampires will be cliché and unoriginal as hell, with the most we can hope for being some involvement from Molag Bal or Meridia.

Just my two cents. I've said my opinion so I'm done now, but I WILL have my big bag of "I-told-you-so"'s ready when these vampires turn out incredibly cliché.

How much money are you betting Longknife? Haha I see what you're saying, but often times when we're set on being pessimistic, nothing will ever satisfy us. I'm a psychiatrist-in-training so I know these things haha. Personally, as long as they find a way to fit it into lore and make the story pretty good I'll be happy. If the story blows me away or of they somehow incorporate the Volkihar in here I'll be thrilled.

Looks better, but i still think the wings look silly....

This is great. Now Bethesda can show everyone something and say, "This is why we don't release things we did in a week."