Clutching at straws, are we?

Try playing a Nord and you will get the same result. Btw: the killer isn't a nord either.

You tried to present the argument that crimes against Nords were actively investigated in Windhelm. You were proven wrong.
You tried to present the argument that guards wouldn't intervene against the murder of other races. You were proven wrong.

But it appears you are unable to concede even a minor point. I wish you good luck with that.

Excellently said, and quite right.

You're using gameplay mechanics and meta-knowledge to explain away static events in the game; I gave examples, and you're trying to dismiss them using irrelevant information ?

They know, however, that their ban on Talos worship and their little patrols won't wipe it out, not by a long shot. If it did they wouldn't have orchestrated the Stormcloak rebellion.

I definitely picked Stormcloaks. I chose to RP a Nord character whose family had been killed by the Thalmor for worshippping Talos. He's now out for vengeance against the Imperials for allowing the murder of his family and fellow Nords. It feels good to come across Thalmor/Imperials on the roadways so I can free their prisoners and slaughter the rest.

I originally sided with Ulfie with my dunmer, as the Nords were the only ones who has supported me from the beginning, but thought against it as He's the grandson of the Neravarene and the arch master of House Redoran, so "My fore father would have my head if I were to support those N'wahs who sacked House Redoran."

..So I re-loaded an earlier save and will join up with the Imperials.....

My Redguard however, lost someone dear to him when "some Bi**** betrayed our beloved Hammerfell while in league with the Thalmor, whose backside we just handed to them even without relying on the cursed daedric foulness the weak would call Magic."..So he set out for Skyrim as it was the last place that she was "scurrying towards," but was met with Imperial Soldiers instead...

He's most definitely going to join with the Storm Cloaks, as his native land has already proven that "one does not need to remain svckled at the Empire's teat in order to send the Thalmor to the grave."

..Plus, "Talos bless the Nords, because they to know the wisdom of shunning the foulness of the Daedric arts as well!"

"If you're looking to offload some of that extra gear, head down to Sadri's Used Wares. Talk to the Elf."

OH CRAP, I should've told him to go to the nord shopkeeper instead because I'm racist. What have I done!?

The Thalmor excel at the long game.Unfortunately for them they are now playing the short game.Look what happened went they went off script in the Hammerfell invasion.Not their strong suit.

They have influence in Cyrodil.For the Thalmor The Empire winning lets the Thalmor keep tabs on the remainder of the Empire.A Stormcloak victory will make intel harder to come by(Once they kick the Khajit caravans out) in Skyrim in addition to Hammerfell.The more fires the Thalmor have to put out the better.

The Empire can end the civil war by simply renouncing the WGC in a fashion similiar to the Thalmor ambassador presented Mede the terms they wished.They have plenty of guys running around with headsman's axes put em to use on some justicars.Sadly I do not think the Empire will do it.

Stormcloaks here.
My Dunmer understand the need and necessity of letting the past lie in the past, and work together to provide a more free and balanced future for all the races.... which is not found under the current tyrannical leadership of the Imperials. Is why it was so easy for me to assassinate the current Emperor... to turn the tide. Especially after having been almost beheaded at the start of this journey by the Imperial Legion... when I was not even on the list to be executed to begin with, but merely added for the sake of a b**** in charge obviously going through that time of the month on that fateful day to include me for no crime nor reasons therefore-to.
And though it was a Legionnaire who assisted in my escape... it would not have occurred in the first place if the Dragon had not arrived.

That would be my main reason for joining the Stormcloaks.... my attempted murder in the guise of execution on the innocent.

I didn't know there were nord shopkeepers in windhelm dealing in general goods

I guess you never got to the part where he bets Galmar that you'll return from your test because he sees something special in you.

Of course, the empire thinks you're so special they had your head on a block.

stormcloaks the empire is very weak. they have puppets.. the emporer should be a dragon born but hes not hes weak.
Helping the empire helps the thalmor right now. The empire will not be able to win vs the thalmor their time is over.
hammerfell is its own place. everywhere is on its own. I believe in independance from a weak empire.

the empire is no longer honorable in my eyes.7

Rikke saids the same thing as Galmar actually, and pluses for surviving Helgen.

Oengul buys gear. (Whats with these things?)

Both/Neither. Both are as wrong and as right.

My dictionary's definition of gear is much boarder

Not just weapons and armor.

You really are being obtuse aren't you.


Tullius is a mass murderer. He approves of the execution of some random traveller.

For the new empire to raise, old one must fall.

Very simple.

Of course, when you're wearing all robes and only carrying junk and a guard tells you this what am I suppose to think?
Not my fault for understanding words as they are taught.

And I thought the Captain was responsible for the execution; why else would everyone want revenge on her?

Then Ulfric is even more of one, considering what happened at Markarth.

You're supposed to realize he's promoting a dunmer business in a place where nords apparently hate dunmer and an altmer runs the same type of business and he doesn't ever refer to her but she does alright for herself.

Tullius's responsibility to approve it.

It wasn't a serious point. Read the rest of the context.

apparently the nords don't "just hate only the dunmer" ?
Plus word goes around that she's thieves guild.

How do you know its Tullius's responsibility to approve it anyway ?
I didn't know generals do that sort of stuff.

Yeah! I'll send my nord buddy to the filthy grey quarter instead of the marketplace with the "civilized" people!

One is a real store with a door; and the other is a market place with stalls.
Which has a higher probability of actually being there?