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» Mon May 14, 2012 2:23 am

Like with Rage and Brink?

Gladly the skyrim dlc and Dishonered should be amazing and make up for that. I hope this game is good too.

Depends if the skyrim DLC and Dishonored is good. I don't think they will be since Brink, Rage, Rogue Warrior and Wet were horrible.

Bethesda has had more misses then hits.

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:30 pm

I doubt it. I suspect it will be the same with Warcraft and WoW.

Not necessarily. In the case of WoW, the events of the MMO happen after the events of the single-player games. In the case of TES it's the other way around, meaning nothing stands in the way of new single-player games.

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:33 pm

Not necessarily. In the case of WoW, the events of the MMO happen after the events of the single-player games. In the case of TES it's the other way around, meaning nothing stands in the way of new single-player games.

Or the fact that WoW was a bigger finicial success than warcraft 3? In the end its all about the money..

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:38 am

Depends if the skyrim DLC and Dishonored is good. I don't think they will be since Brink, Rage, Rogue Warrior and Wet were horrible.

Bethesda has had more misses then hits.

I think Dishonered will own based off of demo reviews and the developers. I'm sure Harvey Smith learned his mistake with Deus Ex 2.

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:00 am

Or the fact that WoW was a bigger finicial success than warcraft 3? In the end its all about the money..

Exactly, If TESO makes more money than the single player games bye bye single player RPG TES games.

» Sun May 13, 2012 8:41 pm

I've read many books and have a decade of experience designing games. I know things. You don't.

Assume and know are two different animals you seem to be confusing.

Fairly certain SquarEnix continued to develop single player Final Fantasy games after Final Fantasy XI was made.

Fairly certain they also continued making them after Final Fantasy XIV flopped.

Exactly, If TESO makes more money than the single player games bye bye single player RPG TES games.

Not sure where you get your logic from at all...

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:00 am

Exactly, If TESO makes more money than the single player games bye bye single player RPG TES games.

Please enlighten me on how you know such things? Can you see into the future?

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:04 am

Assume and know are two different animals you seem to be confusing.

Fairly certain SquarEnix continued to develop single player Final Fantasy games after Final Fantasy XI was made.

Fairly certain they also continued making them after Final Fantasy XIV flopped.

What are you going on about? I know Bethesda's not dropping the original ES series to make way for the MMO. They're two separate projects.

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:02 am

Please enlighten me on how you know such things? Can you see into the future?

Things such as these can be predicted also looking at history you will se what happened before in similiar situations. What makes the money will live and the rest will be killed off in order to support the money maker.

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:05 am

Please enlighten me on how you know such things? Can you see into the future?

I base my guesses on history. Like Dragon age killed neverwinter nights and WoW killed Warcraft.

I completely expect history to repeat itself.

» Sun May 13, 2012 5:18 pm

You're still forgetting that Bethesda Game Studio and Zenimax Online Studios are different developers with different staff and different design goals in different locations.

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:31 am

Not sure where you get your logic from at all...

They are going to put in more focus on the game that brings in the most money.

At the end of the day that's all it amounts to, Money.

» Sun May 13, 2012 11:27 pm

You're still forgetting that Bethesda Game Studio and Zenimax Online Studios are different developers with different staff and different design goals in different locations.

Owned by the same company. Zenimax.

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:44 pm

While you're partly true in this, the very fact that this is an MMO lays down some pretty clear implications from the get-go.

What are you going on about? I know Bethesda's not dropping the original ES series to make way for the MMO. They're two separate projects.

There's no clear implications yet at all. We know maybe .5% about this game.

You were like "I've been around forever, I know things, I've read books," when you know next to nothing about this project.

They are going to put in more focus on the game that brings in the most money.

At the end of the day that's all it amounts to, Money.

So... pray tell, why is BioWare even bothering with Dragon Age III when Mass Effect is far more popular?

This won't kill TES in the least.

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:42 am

Things such as these can be predicted also looking at history you will se what happened before in similiar situations. What makes the money will live and the rest will be killed off in order to support the money maker.

You have no clue what you're talking about

WC3 was a RTS Game aka a PC Only Titel.
TES Series is a Multiplatform RPG

Don't see a difference?

There will be both a Single Player and a MMORPG TES. Deal with it.

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:45 am

Thats like a vampire fan getting all bent out of shape because of Twilight. Meh.

Too bad I guess.

What? No. Vampires are generic devices. The Elder Scrolls is a very specific series of games, stories, etc. People rage over Twilight for entirely different reasons than I'm raging over this game.

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:41 am

There's no clear implications yet at all. We know maybe .5% about this game.

You were like "I've been around forever, I know things, I've read books," when you know next to nothing about this project.

Generally speaking, it's easier to deduce the elements of a game's design by its parent genre than you'd think.

So statements like these tell me you know nothing at all. And I'm right.

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:23 am

You have no clue what you're talking about

WC3 was a RTS Game aka a PC Only Titel.
TES Series is a Multiplatform RPG

Don't see a difference?

There will be both a Single Player and a MMORPG TES. Deal with it.

You still don't see it. History is going to repeat itself. Not one single company has learned this.

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:53 am

You have no clue what you're talking about

WC3 was a RTS Game aka a PC Only Titel.
TES Series is a Multiplatform RPG

Don't see a difference?

There will be both a Single Player and a MMORPG TES. Deal with it.

I have already written 100 times why I believe there wont be a single player TES anymore and if you care find it and read it.

Point is, I believe otherwise.

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:23 pm

why are people so excited? The singleplayer elements and all things we love in elder scrolls will now be gone

think of it,How would pickpocketing and lockpicketing work? I bet you? cant even go around and kill random people,And NPCS will be stupider then ever. I am sticking to skyrim,but going to give this a try,Hope this never affects the singleplayer games...I wanted to see parts of other provinces in skyrim dlc but now that the online game takes place in whole tamriel i dont see that happen

» Mon May 14, 2012 1:38 am

Generally speaking, it's easier to deduce the elements of a game's design by its parent genre than you'd think.

So statements like these tell me you know nothing at all. And I'm right.

Except you're wrong.

Of course there's "generic" elements and mechanics driven by genre, that's common sense. Other than these generic elements, such as potential PvP, a potential auction house, etc, we know nothing.

You make "implications" out to be like you know how things are going to get handled, how it will function in relation to the TES series, etc.

Unless you're just relying on the "so... MMO has auction houses" as your "implication" then that's pretty much a "yeah... no duh."

You still don't see it. History is going to repeat itself. Not one single company has learned this.

Except for y'know... Final Fantasy.

» Mon May 14, 2012 9:36 am

Zenimax online not Bethesda. And it might be great

It will be laughably bad, it will be the most mediocre thing the gaming world has seen since black ops and black ops was the apex of [censored]. At least we'll get a few laughs while the online version fails.

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:05 pm

It will be laughably bad, it will be the most mediocre thing the gaming world has seen since black ops and black ops was the apex of [censored]. At least we'll get a few laughs while the online version fails.

If you think Black Ops is the epitome is terrible games... you know very little of the history of the game industry.

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:48 am

So... pray tell, why is BioWare even bothering with Dragon Age III when Mass Effect is far more popular?

Bioware isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. they've made several dumb decisions over the past couple of years.Like ditching NWN and BG.

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:00 am

Bioware isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. they've made several dumb decisions over the past couple of years.Like ditching NWN and BG.

What happened to knights of the old republic III ? :/ Instead they made a MMO..