Why is the fun of this game slowly fading away?

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:13 pm

fortunately for alot of whiners here, Skyrim ISNT the perfect game for them. It would be like heroin, they'd never leave the house. If you already spent 100+ hrs on this game and STILL complain- maybe you have a problem. What- did you expect this game to COMPLETELY replace your real life????


I'm sure the Beth devs are confused out of their minds at the fan base on this forum. Imagine creating something that someone obviously plays the heck out of, only for them to tell you that you did a lousy job! Thats like buying a starving homeless man a meal from McDs and after filling his stomach with all he can eat, he spits in your face for not buying him steak.
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Assumptah George
 
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:49 pm

Whenever I get bored with grinding out questlines, I just explore and enjoy the world. Also, if you're playing a ton of anything, it's understandable that you would get tired of it after awhile, it's called getting burnt out.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:01 pm

Character building as in role/functionality, yes I have already done that.

But still the only thing you can do with all those different characters are 1) murder or 2) go into a cave.

You said to "based off the world and the lore alone", what does that mean? Again, if you are not telling me to roleplay in my head without any assistance from the game, why leave the game on. And if the game assists me here, how so?


The lore alone meaning create a back story. Write down a story for your character based on the lore of where they are from. Then detail a story about what leads them into Skyrim.. then choose what they would or would not do like quest or what they wear. Choose a place they would like to live. Progress your character based on what you choose their interest to be. Like build them like a nigjtblade, warrior, or a mage and so on. You are an adventurer, why are you an adventurer you choose the answer for yourself.

You are only limited in roleplaying by your imagination. You choose your story based off the lore of the series you play as the rile of your character in the game. You are an adventurer yes this is an RPG. You will be limited to that, now you just go out and design your own tale based in the game universe of TES. It requires imagination, which I have a lot of and these reasons is what will allow me to be more entertained in this game ruN in any other. If you want other options you can mod them in if your on PC. It you want more options and do not have a PC it would be a good idea to get a PC, because with a PC your options are pretty much limitless in terms of content.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:33 pm

You can do a lot more than that. You can craft, you can collect, you can explore, you can try using skills you rarely -- if ever -- used before, you can read all the in-game written lore items that you can find, you can observe the actions of npc's, you can study the stars, you can pretend that battles you are having (or places you are exploring) have additional levels of interest to your character, etc.

Really, it's up to you. The reason you leave the game on, to specifically answer your question, is because it provides a wonderful experience in its own right and it provides a canvas of activities over which you can layer your own thoughts and ideas. It's hard to explain to a non-rp'er, but if you can get into a game it becomes a lot more than just the pixels on the screen. How you accomplish that is up to you.


These are more points I was trying to get at. You are only limited by your imagination.

One of my builds is an alchemist. For example.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:00 pm

"I have spent every free waking moment playing this game obsessively for a month straight. Somehow I am finding I don't want to play now." :sadvaultboy:

"I have spent every waking moment having six obsessively for a month straight. Somehow I don't want to have six now." :sadvaultboy:

Wow, you think? :spotted owl:
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:11 pm

The game stopped being fun for me around 74 hours, where the new patch came and destroyed my file. I never felt like restarting the same character stuff all over again. Nice move, Bethesda... At least once this game gets fixed, I'll be able to finally re-enjoy this game.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:29 pm

It's not, you play too much.
I haven't played since yesterday. :shrug:
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:50 pm

I've made three characters, got to around level 25 on all of them. One is a Thief / Assassin, the next is a Pure Mage, and the last is a heavy armored Warrior with a two-hander. The Thief / assassin completed the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild, the Pure Mage completed the College of Winterhold, and the Pure Warrior completed The Companions. I haven't even touched the main questline yet on any of those characters, and I lack the motivation to do so. Mainly because i have a strong suspicion that once I complete the main quest on a character, I'll feel satisfied with the game and will stop playing it entirely, due to me already using all of the available types of combat, except for one handed + shield, everything else has been used. Anyone beginning to feel the same way?


Same here, lol. I can't even finish the main quest. The boredom sets in around level 25 for me as well. Usually right after I make daedric gear and feel like I already got the best gear and mobs start dropping like flies.

Couldn't play stealth archer for long. I find it to be way way too much hassle compared to a warrior as I can clear up a room with a warrior in a third of the time it takes to do it with a sneaky archer, as the bandit chiefs and stuff can't be done with a sneak shot and then mano-a-mano with an archer as you just get pawnzored, while a warrior will take the chief AND his lieutenant and rock them hard.

Tried mage too. Horrible experience. Never again!
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:42 pm

You can do a lot more than that. You can craft, you can collect, you can explore, you can try using skills you rarely -- if ever -- used before, you can read all the in-game written lore items that you can find, you can observe the actions of npc's, you can study the stars, you can pretend that battles you are having (or places you are exploring) have additional levels of interest to your character, etc.

Really, it's up to you. The reason you leave the game on, to specifically answer your question, is because it provides a wonderful experience in its own right and it provides a canvas of activities over which you can layer your own thoughts and ideas. It's hard to explain to a non-rp'er, but if you can get into a game it becomes a lot more than just the pixels on the screen. How you accomplish that is up to you.


Everyone knows crafting breaks the game. So either you craft and break the game, or you craft and don't use the crafted items... lol so much for crafting :/

Collect, yes. Did that through normal play. Few insect jars here and there to decorate my home, the unique items. Purely decorative but it's something I did enjoy first couple of times.

I covered explore under cave and abandoned forts. You can only explore same place so many times.

Different skills fall under seven different characters.

Observe the actions of the NPC... what? Watching Ysolda being jelly of Nazeem's farm is worth watching after once?

If I were to use my own thoughts to build a story, I prefer a clean canvas :P

Really, the only roleplaying you can do outside of character build is murder, or go to caves. Unless you think having handful of insects in jars qualify as enough material to roleplay a entomologist :P If I didn't roleplay this game would've gave out after 100 hours. Roleplaying got me another 100 or so, but the roleplaying option is so pitifully limited. I think you are the one who has been missing out on good solid roleplaying mechanics to find this game a good platform to roleplay upon.

These are more points I was trying to get at. You are only limited by your imagination.

One of my builds is an alchemist. For example.


I can daydream just fine without a game telling me what to think about :P
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:21 pm

There is a form of overplaying where i get bored from the same game if i play it alone for 3 weeks straight. Switching to a new game helps and then you can come back in two weeks. Personally i played shogun 2 and when i came back to skyrim it felt newer then it did after palying it alone.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:27 pm

Balancing issues and bugs are the main reasons for me; it's a great epic game but the more you play it the more shallow it seems to become; the game is unfinished. mods, patches and future content will make it much better.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:24 pm

Get creative with builds i'm doing a Altmer sneak conjuring illusion archer right now, the nighting gale hood kind of inspired it also the bound bow is just cool in my opinion plus atronachs are nice distractions. And sneaking into towns and casting fury on somebody and watching all hell break lose is the funniest thing ever. You can also throw courage on them so they start giving the guards a good fight
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:11 pm

Thanks for the honest replies. The last line could indeed just be "enjoy this in moderation to avoid getting burnt out," and that's advice I should probably take myself. Still, I appreciate the tips on how to actually keep the game fresh. I want to keep playing – I love this game!

Personally, I'm finding that I enjoy playing through levels 1-40 more than 40+. I was in such a rush to make a super character that I hit level 50 with 100 in multiple attributes, free spellcasting, and devastating one-handed attacks before I even visited the southeast of the map, made headway in the main quest, or finished any guild quest besides Winterhold. (I've logged Talos-knows-how-many hours and have STILL not visited Riften!) I want to know how the story goes (and what the deal is with these weird masks I keep finding…), but I didn't want to play it with my dunmer demigod, so I restarted as a bosmer and have gone out of my way to avoid stuff that makes me level more quickly. I'm also fast-traveling less, and just enjoying listening to weird snippets of dialog more. For some reason, it's reassuring to know I'm not alone in these tastes.

But yeah, seriously, folks, we all probably need to get a full night's sleep sometime this month. It's cold season soon!
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:08 pm

TES games, including Skyrim are great platforms for roleplaying.
Yes, game mechanics count, and there is a lot in there. PC is good for the mods that will change or add to these mechanics.
There are many builds that are possible.
Don't just think "Mage", "Warrior", "Thief". e.g.: Try an assassin that only uses magic.
The lore of the world, and the history and traits of races will help with developing a story for your character.

There have been countless tips on how to get 100's, if not 1,000s of enjoyable hours with TES. But many people are not interested in using these tips. That is their choice.
The games give you a lot of choice, including those that lead to power playing or becoming over-powered. You don't have to play this way though. I don't.

I was hoping for additional content also, that doesn't seem to be in Skyrim, but I will make the best of what is available, and see what mods and DLC come out.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:36 am

I can daydream just fine without a game telling me what to think about :P

You just have to use your imagination to open up a personality for your character. That is your choice. I like create stories based in this world it helps the game be more fun for me. It prolongs the life of this one game into thousands of hours of gameplay.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:56 am

Oh hey look a dragon!
brb one shotted him

"Go kill this guy hes a complete badass and no one can touch him."
brb one shotted

Oh crap.. bandit camp I'm so effed, JK!
One shot one shot one shot one shot one shot.

Oh sweet windhelm house ima go buy it
Nope... bugged

Oh sweet companions they so badass breh
Nope bugged.

I had fun with this game the first 2 days I played it. I look for some sort of challenge / something to work for in games. I'm not a roleplayer, I'm the 1%.
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Robert DeLarosa
 
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:57 pm

Too much cake and ice cream. Play another game for a while.
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Samantha Wood
 
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:50 pm

Too much cake and ice cream. Play another game for a while.


I guess.
The game is suppose to get better as you advance, not worse.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:51 am

"I've played this game for almost 100 hours, and it's no longer incredibly exciting! Is that the game's fault, perhaps?!?!"

:rolleyes:
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:08 pm

First character at level 34 and I about done (with over a half of the MQ and a ton of sidequests still to be finished -- and a ton already finished). As usual with Beth games, the initial impact was that of "Hey this actually feels quite nice", but the more I go on the more evident it is how everything becomes bland and repetitive, and the lack anything that'd matter isn't really helping in keeping me going. There is this familiar taste, that I have done this all more than once already (in earlier Beth games -- which, basically, have been this same game about scenery, random roaming and poor-to-mediocre writing little to no feeling of accomplishment). It has all the makings of genuinely enjoyable and captivating game, but the realization is lacking on almost all accounts so much - and, as said, it feels like it's been played already - that the initial and overall appeal dries out quite fast. Imho.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:31 pm

if you have six too much it stops being fun
if you party too much it stops being fun
if you eat too much it stops being fun
if you play skyrim too much it stops being fun


You might be doing a couple of these things wrong, lol.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:37 am

dude, try making a person, and then jst go with the flow, dont try to make a warrior, a mage or a something, just go with whatever you feel is conveniant, and do all the quests, not just dark brotherhood for this and companions for that.

little known secret, if you make a build, follow the set rules for that build, and consentrate on the way your character behaves as if it was real life, you are already ruining 50% of the fun for yourself.

go with the flow, not with the rule book made by some D&D virgin who thought ''gosh, thats a very nice person i have here, i will name him a warrior''
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:03 pm

IMO It's a lot because what you do has such a small impact on the world that rerolling doesn't feel like a different storyline. The only guild quest that feels like you made a difference when you finish it is the thieves guild IMO... you do a huge amount and some cool jobs apart from the main storyline and then at the end you have multiple sets of cool armor, lots of jobs and a flourishing guild to utilize. The other guilds just seem to go "well since you killed the bad guy, I suppose you run this thing now... here's your house" and that's it. There is a SERIOUS lack of an epilogue for like, every main quest in the game. And worst of all nothing changes after it's done minus a couple dialogue options.

Also race choices don't matter much, there are hardly any IF ANY quest dialogues for different races. A high elf dragonborn is treated just the same as a nord dragonborn, they will tell you all their secrets and let you get really close to the truth of everything even though they are bitter toward almost ANY other altmer and suspicious of them. This game is based around a civil war between the nords about imperial control and warding off the altmer threat... there is massive racism everywhere, and YOUR race means less than nothing. A kajiit will sometimes be called a house cat, but no prejudice, no locked doors so to speak on questlines.

It would at least be nice if the dialogue for stormcloak campaigns changed a good amount if you were a dunmer, or an altmer... to address how they actually feel towards those races. Or if the world changed after you finished the main storyline minus a couple destroyed buildings. I really hope there is DLC for the dominion and destroying the rest of the dragons... because it's really lame beating the main story and the dragons are STILL all over the countryside with no change.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:18 am

trust me... you will not feel satisfied at the end of the main quest :sadvaultboy: .

No better then Oblivion, where I ended up nothing but an errand boy for Martin and then he gets the credit....WTF!!?!? lol
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:26 pm

if you have six too much it stops being fun


True and then you turn gay...or straight depending on the original preference. What, Elton John did it, George Michael did it. :D
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