Would you take immortality?

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:18 am

But we are immortal beings, whether you beleive it or not. Death is merely a transition.
Well, not exactly. Our souls are immortal, we are just tucked away in a mortal body. When we die our physical bodies decay, our souls live on and either go to heaven or hell, where we will spend eternity. Hell is eternal death, heaven is eternal life. I am not allowed to go into more detail unless anybody wants me to. (fourm rules)
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Melanie Steinberg
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:59 pm

The one thought that keeps me from going insane when thinking about death is the fact that before we were alive, we were nothing. After we are alive, we will become nothing... maybe the cycle will repeat.

Like I said earlier though. Dying is not apart of my plans.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:42 pm

The one thought that keeps me from going insane when thinking about death is the fact that before we were alive, we were nothing. After we are alive, we will become nothing... maybe the cycle will repeat.

Like I said earlier though. Dying is not apart of my plans.
Likewise. To be nothing again... if we can develop and form our personalities/consciousnesses in the first place, would repetition of the same, exact brain wiring and nervous system development one day lead to... dun, dun, dun, rebirth into something once again... :bonk:

Meh, I doubt it. I'd take immortality, certainly (though that side ability to be able to kill myself at any time sounds handy and if possible, I'd certainly have a host of other factors to both hide my immortality and prolong the lives of my close friends and family, as well... + I don't want to age), but I've resigned myself to the fact that my cells cannot replicate themselves perfectly and maintain my physical health and I've resigned myself to my eventual death and ceasing of existence. The brain will die and rot... with it shall go all my memories, my personality, and my consciousness never again to see the light of a day. How bleak, but t'is the natural order of things. Our species will live and further evolve or die out and the universe shall move on. I'd like to stick around and see what happens, but that wish shall unfortunately never come true. The thought of death and eternal nonexistence while I currently yet live is a maddening thought... incomprehensible to the sapient and sentient mind if not but to compare to pre-birth.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:09 am

Sure, imagine all the books you would have time to read, music to listen to, languages to learn, games to play. Not playing Elder Scrolls MMM... without Quarn and Kivan also immortal to squash all the bugs, though.

Can see how it would be tough to maintain a low profile. Think outside the box and start a new religion promising immortality. Your believers would provide the cash and when they did not become immortal your fallback is "lack of faith". The non-believers would be convinced from the start that you were just a hoax. Many interesting possibilities.

Guess I had better add that I was just kidding.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:58 am

Can see how it would be tough to maintain a low profile. Think outside the box and start a new religion promising immortality. Your believers would provide the cash and when they did not become immortal your fallback is "lack of faith". The non-believers would be convinced from the start that you were just a hoax. Many interesting possibilities.
You would also be assassinated many times over (coming back to life after each one), and kidnapped by someone. You would only succeed in creating a life of fear and pain for yourself while condemning others to throw away their life and savings to fuel your own.

assassinated because: extremists would see you as a threat/see you as evil. Relatives of those that gave everything to you would see you as a cult leader who svcks people dry and needs to be stopped, criminal organizations would see you as a potential threat, etc

kidnapped because: groups would try to take your immortality, groups would experiment on you, government institutions would want to unlock the secret, private institutions would want to unlock the secret, criminal institutions would want it for themselves.

life of fear because: You would constantly have to worry about the above. You are immortal, but that just means you would feel eternal pain (regenerating nerve terminals is fun!). You would have to surround yourself with guards and barriers.

life of pain because: as mentioned, you still feel pain and people would try and kill you and experiment on you. You've also basically sold what makes you human (you're purposefully causing harm to others to fuel your bank account and life).

Coming out about being immortal is about the stupidest thing you can do, especially as the only immortal.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:34 pm

It has it's benefits though I had to wait a long time for those benefits.

I'm finally glad I can live comfortably with these modern inventions (especially video games).

I'm not sure what I'm going to do once the sun becomes a red giant and envelops the earth though especially since I don't like heat very much.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:19 pm

I can honestly say I would not accept this. The thought of watching every single person I've loved and ever will love die before me is unimaginable. The thought of that alone makes me sad. Nope, not for me.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:29 pm

See, the whole "You would have to worry about people finding out about your immortality," thing does not intimidate me by the slightest. A simple matter of faking one's death and dying hair can solve all of that. Worse comes to worse, I could always hire a plastic surgeon.

With immortality comes the fact that I have unlimited time on my hands. If the need to disappear for a generation or two, maybe a century shows itself up, than so be it. The world is a big place, with a even bigger population. Finding one man amongst seven billion is worst than looking for a needle in a haystack, provided this man knows how to cover his tracks and make it so that he was never there.

I am going under the assumption that this is the kind of immortality that brings about youth. If not, than hell, I have plenty of time to find a way to invest money toward scientist who can give me that youth. Give me enough time and experience, and I would definitely form a secret society of immortals, assuming it is possible to one day create a way for cells to regenerate for eternity.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:43 pm

See, the whole "You would have to worry about people finding out about your immortality," thing does not intimidate me by the slightest. A simple matter of faking one's death and dying hair can solve all of that. Worse comes to worse, I could always hire a plastic surgeon.

With immortality comes the fact that I have unlimited time on my hands. If the need to disappear for a generation or two, maybe a century shows itself up, than so be it. The world is a big place, with a even bigger population. Finding one man amongst seven billion is worst than looking for a needle in a haystack, provided this man knows how to cover his tracks and make it so that he was never there.

I am going under the assumption that this is the kind of immortality that brings about youth. If not, than hell, I have plenty of time to find a way to invest money toward scientist who can give me that youth. Give me enough time and experience, and I would definitely form a secret society of immortals, assuming it is possible to one day create a way for cells to regenerate for eternity.
Disappearing isn't the hard part, it's re-integrating with society. You'd have to create an identity from scratch that lines up with your apparent age. This is not cheap currently, is not legal, and will only get more expensive and harder to do in the future as surveillance increases, to the point where it's basically impossible to forge a phony identity.

You also have to do this every 20 or so years due to a static age.

Surgery? With what money? Thinking of having an investment? You'll need some sort of identity to invest and you won't be able to carry it over from one identity to another without fully liquidating it right before you die. As mentioned, most if not all your investment would then have to go to creating your new identity.

Maybe you think you'd be fine being a nameless person. What's the point in immortality then? You can't enjoy society without having an identity, can't get a decent paying job, and as such cannot reap the benefits of a prolonged life.
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Chloe Lou
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:30 pm

Apparent immortality? Only if I get a complementary TARDIS.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:51 am

Disappearing isn't the hard part, it's re-integrating with society. You'd have to create an identity from scratch that lines up with your apparent age. This is not cheap currently, is not legal, and will only get more expensive and harder to do in the future as surveillance increases, to the point where it's basically impossible to forge a phony identity.

You also have to do this every 20 or so years due to a static age.

Surgery? With what money? Thinking of having an investment? You'll need some sort of identity to invest and you won't be able to carry it over from one identity to another without fully liquidating it right before you die. As mentioned, most if not all your investment would then have to go to creating your new identity.

Maybe you think you'd be fine being a nameless person. What's the point in immortality then? You can't enjoy society without having an identity, can't get a decent paying job, and as such cannot reap the benefits of a prolonged life.

Money would be a trivial problem for someone whom has knowledge and experience from ages. Look at the world around you today, and you will see many people scoring large amounts of cash for putting to use, or coming up with ideas that seem to be staring us right in the face. Justin Bieber has made more than 50 million dollars so far, and Notch gets a nice amount of money to. How hard would it be for someone whom has such a wide array of knowledge to come up with an idea that makes him alot of money to.

Of course, the popularity would probably cause a problem in terms of disappearing from society, but it would not make the task impossible. Once more, I bring about the faking of death procedure. But you do make a good point, disappearing isn't the hard part, re-integrating would be.

Chances are if you are going to live forever, you will eventually find out how to make a fake identity for yourself. Really, it's a simple matter (when compared to the large amount of challenges one would face for eternity) of figuring out how to make the paper-work you need look legit, and finding a way to make some people confirm the fake identities life to any employers.

But, even if what I say above is not exactly the wisest route, there is still the fact that I have all eternity to plan out how to make it work. Give a guy enough time and knowledge, and he can do whatever it is he wants to do.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:14 pm

Immortality? Nah. Never worrying about death takes the spice out of life.

Although, it would be cool being that one person who travels the world, never aging...being told of in legends...showing up on the news like a big foot sighting...but, even that would loose it's fun aftert 300 years or so.
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Patrick Gordon
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:55 am

I used to think I would refuse. Losing loved ones over and over.
Then I realized that to deprive myself of meeting new and interesting people for an eternity would svck.
I wonder if it would make me more callous, and jaded, or whether it would make me more compassionate.
How heavy can a heart grow with eons of loss? How light can it become knowing that there is always another tomorrow?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:47 pm

I was saying that: Imagine your body dies, but you retain conscious thought for the rest of eternity. No five senses left. Just conscious thought.
Then I would split into Anu and Padomay, and create the TES verse.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:59 am

I'm pretty sure that being immortal has no effect on your civil rights. If someone's body naturally overcomes a disease, it doesn't mean that they get locked up and studied. Why would this change if someone overcame death?

Maybe we should start looking at reality instead of dystopian future science fiction.
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Prisca Lacour
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:56 am

Well I'm not gonna die till I am damn well ready to, but nah. I want to live to be a very old man, but not forever. As long as I live past 111 so I can have my "eleventy first" birthday party and still be in functioning condition I can die content.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:32 pm

Immortal? No. I don't want to watch everyone around me die every generation. It'll be the loneliest life. Even if everyone I loved was immortal with me, no. That'll mean I can never make new friends.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:37 pm

I would accept it with all its penalties. Under one condition. I have the additional power to escape any situation. I would make myself a force that is too great to lignore. I would hold my ideals to be those of the peoples. I would kill every single person that I carefully and with the help of many others deem corrupt. i would hate myself but someone has to do it. The only problem is to avoid the temptations of power. but since I have the power to escape any situation that includes temptation. hah! World Savior! Lolz jk idk I am halfway serious but there are so many errors that could happen. I have always been the kind of person who wants the ball when the game is on the line though.

I would just play a lot of games and constantly try to learn everything. That would be my purpose. I want to know the limit to human learning.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:07 pm

Immortality? Nah. Never worrying about death takes the spice out of life.
But what about power? Power! Imagine the control you could have over people.
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Kate Norris
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:38 pm

I would rather have invincibility.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:28 pm

I'd take it, granted the ability to kill myself if I ever felt the need. I love life with all its ups and downs, and would love to see what the future brings. Also, I could do all the stuff I want to do but never have time to finish :)

Sure, losing loved ones again and again would hurt, but I've always preferred hurt to nothingness, and I'm pretty much convinced that nothingness is what happens when you die... it just seems most plausible, given the data we have.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:49 pm

Only if I could end it when I wanted to because it would be horrible. Imagine floating around in space for eternity unable to die because the earth was destroyed.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:11 pm

Would I take it? Nah.

Plus, lets get one thing straight, are we talking about immortal but vulnerable, or immortal and invulnerable?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:42 am

Elven Immortal? Or Capt. Jack Immortal?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:41 pm

Immortality as a whole would add up to more pain than pleasure for some, and more pleasure than pain for others. I think it really depends on whether or not you're a pessimist or an optimist. Having said that, I think I'd take it. Opportunities to help others are limitless.
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