I have to say I prefer Oblivion's way, but Skyrim's is more believeable, and makes it more of a fun challenge to hide from everyone. But it doesn't make sense in SKyrim how as soon as you walk into a town everyone knows your a vampire, what the hell are they psychic?

Because I want to watch it for myself? Is it so hard for you to understand that?

You have: long pointy teeth, pale skin/scales, devil eyes.....

The problem with the attack you at stage 4 is, its unrealisticlly stupid as they have closed face helmets and properly functioning disguises can be huge pains in the butt to program. Vampires should require regular blood to maintain their powers, the idea that they grow weaker by feeding was always stupid. And still we don't know what the overhaul will contain. They might do away with stages all together. Say your daylight penalties would apply at night if you haven't fed in the past 24 hours.

Because someone may have misread or misheard infromation. Links allow others to doube check info themselves.

Yet by the looks of it, no one will attack you until you sprout wings and look like a Man-Bat. Long pointy fangs, pale body and hungry eyes aren't enough to make people attack you.

Also didn't your own follower attack you at stage 4? Or that's what I read anyway since I have not used the vanilla vampires yet since it felt more like a disease then a gift.

No, they shouldn't. At least in Oblivion, they were different. They were modififed by a Daedric pact. You may think it is stupid, as well as some other people, but it was balanced. Vampirism is not suppose to be a huge power-up like Lycanthrope was made to be.

Why is the feeding system stupid? If you want to remain undetected and live in civilization, you feed. If you want to be a powerful recluse, don't feed. Sanguinare Vampiris is a disease, and the vampiric effects are merely symptoms of it and blood is kind of like an antitode or a tylenol. Keeps it at bay.

so many ppl are sure but...i still see no proof and that means there is still a chance

But in Skyrim you don't look that much different in stage 4 as you do stage one, it isn't like Oblivion where you could actually tell a difference. And I said it is ridiculous how as soon as I step into a town everyone already knows I am a vampire, that is unrealistic they should have to see me first.

I have to say I've strongly considered curing my vampirism because of the stage 4 annoyances... But I've held onto it for dawnguard... Does anyone know if that matters? Being a vampire before going into it?

Have you looked an an Orc, or the unusual eye color options many of the Mer have. I don't see what odd visual features vampires have you can't find among the mortals of Skyrim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mGzUHwKAtQ

its mentioned in the video near the end (past 6 mins)

Why shouldn't it be a power up like werewolves? Getting weaker by feeding is backwards and just plain foolish. I believe this is one of the reasons people did not like the original vampires. If you are a fan of them then you don't want it to come of as just some disease to get rid of.

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Please do not try to justify the looks of the other races. There is a distinct appearance of a vampire that seperates it from other races. Their eyes in Oblivion, Skyrim and even Morrowind are unique. Have you seen an Imperial with sulfuric eyes? Or a Breton? Or even a Redguard?

Because blood should give you power not take it away. I am not of the mind set that every thing has to be strange or different. I am perfectly happy with the way vampires have been done.

Kind of curious about this as well. Also as for the brass tacks of the topic at hand - IMO The whole stage 4 burn it with fire was something I almost don't even notice, I just use that invisibility power, feed, and it's all good. I can't help but wonder now, whats the point of feeding if there's not really any downside to going full retar- stage 4 vampire? I guess we'll see.

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From your opinion, it may be foolish. But there must be drawbacks. Lycanthropy is a curse and at times, a gift. But in Skyrim, we don't even need to transform unless we feel like it. Sure, it ties in with the Witches of Glenmoril, but it would be better if they stayed true to lore.

I'm wearing a fullsuit of armor by facial features are invisible to you. How do you know I'm a vampire. The Cyrodillic vampires make this big claim about having made a pact with a daedric lord but it flies in the face of established lore. Nine clans in daggerfall grew weaker without feeding and they could all blend into human cities blood or no.
When they made Oblivion they completely forgot about the vampires in daggerfall and only remembered the three clans from Morrowind.
Because it takes the villianious nature out of vampires. The weaker ones feed on humans while the stronger ones ignore the thirst.....

I've seen a Dunmer with purple eyes. Interacial children in Tamerial inherrent the mothers racial traits with some aspects of the father left behind. If one sees a Imperial with sulfuric eyes you could assume they had a human mother and a mer fathert(who can have sulfiric eyes).

That is just it there will be no penalty, at least that is how I see it, unless they make it like in Oblivion where people will not attack you, but they will not talk to you.

That's exactly why It's stupid. If you want to be a powerful vampire, don't feed? Doesn't make sense. Why be a vampire if doing what a vampire does makes you, essentially, NOT a vampire There's a reason hardly anybody cared about nor played as vampires. The only point to being a vampire now is the resist bonuses and aesthics(both of which lessen if you actually do what vampires are supposed to do, feed... hence, pointless)

I am fine with drawbacks like weakness to fire and certain weapons. I would even be fine with not being able to go out in the sun. Its just the backwards feeding system i have issues with.

i think its funny that random vampires you encounter in caves that have dead bodies and stuff everywhere as if they drink ALOT of blood yet still feel like they are a stage four vampire. I mean if they drink all that blood shouldnt they be stage 1?

Yes this is one of the main reasons I avoided them, It just makes no sense.

Exactly if they are going to live away from society anyway then whats the point of feeding and loosing most of your powers.