Even my 10 year old brother thinks that parts of skyrim are

Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:41 am

No offence but 10 year old kids arent interested in anything unless its noisy and has flashing lights. So maybe your brother should go play pokemon or mw3 or something useless like that.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:15 am

Horses for courses etc: I happen to think that the Dwemer ruins are the second best thing after the outside views.

Thank you... pretty much my sentiment. I'm on a 2nd character after playing my first one for 110 hours (a little more actually) and this one I'm on now is getting close to 300 hour total hours play. On my second play-through I thought the game was not as repetitive as Oblivion and definitely not as repetitive as Morrowind (you couldn't pay me to play through Morrowind, just too friggin' drawn out and too much copy/paste architecture).

Sure they could have called them Goblins, but this is also an alternative fantasy world. They're Elves that de-evolved. Simple as that. They look like de-evolved elves to me at least.

You can't please all the people all the time, but you can please some of the people some of the time.

Most of definitely what the below poster said:


What the bloody hell does this run on sentence mean? It's completely nonsensical. :blink:

Newsflash. Dwemer ruins ARE supposed to be wrecks. Elsewhere in the news: Water is wet. Man bites dog. Sugar is sweet. :laugh:

I'm not going to ask why your 10 year old brother is playing a M rated game. That being said, perhaps wait until both of you mature enough to be less impatient with a low action rpg game like this?

[...Lots of good arguments/text redacted...]

All just so you can brag about how fast you've "beaten the game in X hours" on this forum, Twitter and on FB. And after "beating the game" you wind up making posts like "Bored of Skyrim", or "Skyrim svcks", or posts like these. :lol:

Thankfully, the TES franchise still has a ways to go before completely catering to this type of gamer.
Makes me wonder what your opinion would've been if Skyrim actually required you navigate by TYPING on a keyboard. That's how navigation in TES games like Daggerfall and Arena used to be. And if you spelled anything incorrectly, you could forget traveling anywhere. And those old school games were damned hard to "beat" compared to today's standards btw. So count yourself lucky that technology now restricts you to mouse clicking or button mashing! :lol:

And I hope that your 10 y/o bro isn't trying to compare CoD to TES. CoD has about as much depth as a rock. That series was played out when CoD 2 and MW2 came out. Seriously... they brought back a guy, who incidentally fought in WW2 what looked to be age 30+ mind you, as a SAS Operator?????? Really? The guy is over 100 years old and he's in the MW series???? LOLz John Price... that's the guys name... LOLz.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:55 pm

I think its really funny how many people recommend to let a 10 year old play CoD :D. Just sayin'.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:40 pm

An opinion is an opinion, no matter what age.
Yes, but there is an important distinction to be made. It is the subject of the opinion that makes all the difference. For example, a 10 year old's opinion on say Pokemon is more relevant than a 50 year old's, whereas in the case of say, the state of the world's economy, the reverse would be true. Both are as you say opinions, but that does not mean that both are as valid as each other in all scenarios.

If Skyrim is not aimed at the brain of a 10 year old (which it isn't) then the opinion of a mature player is obviously valued higher than that of a young child's.

Simple logic, really.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:45 am

Seriously, dwemer ruins? They're the single more interesting kind of dungeons ever in any TES, you can't compare them to MW's, where Dagoth'Ur was just another generic ruin but for the last room.

BTW, my 10 yo brother disagrees.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:34 am

"The dwemer armor secrets are lost in time"

in level 20, many blacksmiths sells a set of them.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:23 am

I have to be in the mood for Dwemer ruins, Or i have run out of soul gems & need some replacements.

Yes, The artwork is great & the initial design of them is excellent as is the atmosphere, However i do get a sense of "seen one you've seen them all" & i sincerely wish that what was inside these ruins was as exciting as the design itself, In that sense(for me) they are a let down.

As for the 10 yr old, His opinion is as valid as the rest of us due to the fact that elements of Skyrim were designed for children of his age group;).
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:43 pm



sure (but try to quote me next time, i almost missed your post :biggrin: ) i was thinking about a few parts in shadow of the colossus when i wrote that but i also think kingdom hearts and final fantasy look great too
Those titles have held up rather well despite there age both gameplay and graphics wise.

I think that the Dwemer ruins are very well done and some of the best designed dungeons in the game. They reflect the land scape better in that they are made in stone with some of their steam pipes. While Morrowinds Dwemer ruins suited the volcano they was built upon.

I do agree I wanted more from the Thalmor they do seem to much like a traditional goblin.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:27 am

Not starting the "why is your 10 year old brother playing cod and tes to begin with" ...

However:


Even my 10 year old brother thinks that parts of skyrim are boring and generic ... He does not pay so much attention to the lore and even he thinks ...


So some ten year old boy has an opinion about parts of some game. He doesn't even pay attention to the game, but the world should care about what he thinks about it because ... ???

FALMER are simple goblins and bethesda were not very smart in their creation (they could have made them unique, or they could have made goblins)


What the [censored] does it matter how they are called? The could've named them the Streisand Clan for all I care! That being said, not once did the thought of Goblins come to my mind when I encountered them, especially not since there have been so many depictions of creatures called Goblins in games that were all different from one another, we could put that label on anything. Check the lore, the Falmer are interesting - and personally, they creep me out, but I understand that's not the same for everyone.

He's a 10 year old who spends the same ammount of time on skyrim as he does COD (first tes game he got into was Ob, he didnt get to play much or morrowind) and doesnt pay attention to the lore yet he shares MY opinion ( a fanatic) in almost everything that skyrim has done wrong.


I'm getting confused ... it sounds as if you're saying this to further prove your point and show that you're right, but having a ten year old COD player who does not pay attention to the lore agree with you actually does the opposite. (Hint: someone experienced and with a lot of knowledge about something is able to support an opinion about it..)

I understand it's all matter of personal taste and preference, so I have no problem with you or your brother being bored by the Dwemer ruins, but that doesn't make them or the lore behind them boring as if it was the one and only truth they are. Those ruins are the most tense dungeons for me and I think they're quite well done. My only complaint about them is that some of them felt too long and i especially hate when I can't carry any more loot, lol, but on the other hand, those who love deep dungeon crawling must have something for them, too, right?

P.S.: Somehow, this reply field got all messed up with the font sizes, I hope it will turn out alright when I click on "Post", if not, sorry.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:38 am

Yes, but there is an important distinction to be made. It is the subject of the opinion that makes all the difference. For example, a 10 year old's opinion on say Pokemon is more relevant than a 50 year old's, whereas in the case of say, the state of the world's economy, the reverse would be true. Both are as you say opinions, but that does not mean that both are as valid as each other in all scenarios.

If Skyrim is not aimed at the brain of a 10 year old (which it isn't) then the opinion of a mature player is obviously valued higher than that of a young child's.

Simple logic, really.

That is why I stated to the former statement to be true, in case of Skyrim and gave the LEGO example. Nice that we have sorted that one out :P.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:42 pm

Yeah I hate the Dwemer ruins as well.
The enemies never drop anything worth the hassle.
The chests are few and often have crap in them.
The artistic design is stale and monotomous.
The traps are obvious and boring.

But worst of all, they're long. Real long. Which means even more unrewarding boring playtime.


they are kinda good to get free filled soul gems to boost enchanting IMO
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:35 pm

10 yeard old ? attention span of a ......what were we talking about ? :teehee:
Exactly.... He's 10............ While i agree some areas could have done with a bit more designing, this game is still miles better then Oblivion, and better then Morrowind *except storywise... Morrowinds was the best imo, and was more of an rpg then Skyrim*.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:27 pm

He's 10, of course he finds it boring. On the other hand it's immensely much more fun than Oblivion ever was.

This.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:08 am

10 year olds. The ultimate review source for M17 games.?
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:08 pm

Every time I start a new toon, I find Septimus' Outpost as soon as I hit lvl 15, because Blackreach is definitely one of the most awesome places in Skyrim! It's dark and mysterious and creepy and beautiful and makes my heart pound, because I expect an enemy in every dark corner.

Most TES games are a challenge for the imagination. It's what YOU make of it, so yea, it would be boring to a small child, because they might not yet grasp the aspect of immersion.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:31 am

Every time you start a new what? :huh:
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:51 pm

He's 10, of course he finds it boring.

What the hell does he know anyway?

My son is 12 and thinks that the Blast Suit from MW3 is called a "Juggernaut" suit in real life and he also believes it really will be able to stop thousands upon thousands of bullets. Wrong. One explosion from an IED renders the suit garbage.

If your 10 year old is spending the same amount of time on Skyrim as he does CoD then he's not spending enough time on Skyrim. He wants throwing knives and spears? Sounds like he wants CoD set in ES.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:24 pm

Name one game on the market that has as big a map and such a variety of realistic areas to roam freely. As many side quests, forts, caves, huts, lakes, rivers, wild life, orc camps etc etc.

Titles like this make me laugh. Some people can't be pleased and just moan for the sake of it.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:04 pm

10 year olds are notorious for being ADHD...i say that as someone with 6 younger siblings and a lot of cousins...
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:29 am

No need to bash the kid. Just because he's 10 doesn't mean he can't appreciate a great game. More like his older brother, who he admires and wants to emulate, listed his complaints and wishes and said "right?" and the kid would have said "yeah!"
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:31 pm

Common belief that younger=simpler minded. Personally I think its because of the generation gap. A 10 year old isnt going to give a rats ass about a game with real lore anyhow (If they do, i'm [censored]in amazed.) they're gonna be caring about the newest CoD game, their facebook status, and how many people will tell them their age/six and lcation on omegle.
It's not a "common belief", it's a scientific fact. The frontal lobe doesn't fully develop until a person reaches their twenties.
Gray? Thalmor are TES' Enclave. "Kill everything that isn't us". How is that supposed to be gray?
Well, not everyone. They allied with the Bosmer, for one. They just really, really hate the races of Men.

I wish they had gone in-depth with their views towards the beast races, though. My Argonian would actually be inclined to join them if their outlook was more "humans are scum" and less "everything but Altmer is scum".
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:45 pm

NEWSFLASH!: Little Man Tate has definitively declared Skyrim " Teh Suxx0rz".

Asked for a quote the precocious lad dropped this gem on us: "it's boring with all the stupid deer and dragons. I don't know where I'm supposed to go or do. I'm not goin to read books in the game. I don't even read books in school. Maybe if it had more boobs or if I could use a Famas!! That would be so cool!"

Cool indeed young man. Cool indeed.

Next story: teenager declares Shakespeare is "gay" with all of his "weird talking and tight pants."
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:13 am

Your ten-year-old brother is correct in his conclusions, but he got there in the wrong way. I'm not going to list what's wrong with Skyrim because it's a long list.

It suffices to say that TES would be interesting if the lore were presented in the game. Show, don't tell. It's the most basic rule of storytelling, and Bethesda fail to do this in almost every game.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:22 pm

NEWSFLASH!: Little Man Tate has definitively declared Skyrim " Teh Suxx0rz".

Asked for a quote the precocious lad dropped this gem on us: "it's boring with all the stupid deer and dragons. I don't know where I'm supposed to go or do. I'm not goin to read books in the game. I don't even read books in school. Maybe if it had more boobs or if I could use a Famas!! That would be so cool!"

Cool indeed young man. Cool indeed.

Next story: teenager declares Shakespeare is "gay" with all of his "weird talking and tight pants."

What I wouldn't give to have guys walking around in tight pants again.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:43 pm

It suffices to say that TES would be interesting if the lore were presented in the game. Show, don't tell. It's the most basic rule of storytelling, and Bethesda fail to do this in almost every game.

i have had people say that the lore has been holding things back when it is not even in the actual game outside of books, that is just sad and confusing
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