To put it simply, we avoid dwemer ruins. Unless there is some very important quest that requires their traversal we avoid them. He does not pay so much attention to the lore and even he thinks that FALMER are simple goblins and bethesda were not very smart in their creation (they could have made them unique, or they could have made goblins). I thought dwemer ruins in morrowind were good because they were unique. The poor quality graphics had my imagination picture them as being made with a reflective bronze metal that had rusted in areas. In skyrim however they are simply stone ruins with the occasional yellow pipe or poorly placed trap and they feel no different from anything else. My brother does not feel compeled to learn about such boring races because in skyrim they are boring as opposed to how i learnt as much as i could after morrowind. We Simply avoid those places because of how there is always more traps, less rewards and boring enemies. To us- Transcerning the transmundane, finding an elderscroll and unfathomable depths (he isn't in the college) were the worst quests in the game due to how much time you spend in these places.

I pick on dwemer ruins because they are wrecks to us. We also find nord culture to be more boring than nordic cultures and nords stupid (i looked deeply into it and he looked at it) and that the portrayal of thalmor and dragons was rather shallow to the child. Another thing that he added was that he wished for spears, more weapons, a crossbow, throwing knives, more magic and less of those appalling kill animations, especially when the standard animations fail. He's a 10 year old who spends the same ammount of time on skyrim as he does COD (first tes game he got into was Ob, he didnt get to play much or morrowind) and doesnt pay attention to the lore yet he shares MY opinion ( a fanatic) in almost everything that skyrim has done wrong.

Now- if a casual gamer finds something boring generic- what are bethesda doing in making the game MORE generic? Clearly if both ends of the spectrum agree that The game is truly unimaginative,uninspiring and seemingly unending in some areas then bethesda should try and make areas and cultures unique?


Edit: he likes about half the game and half it's enemies. People saying that he isn't smart enough to appreciate skyrim probably arent smart enough to be saying things like this

He's 10, of course he finds it boring. On the other hand it's immensely much more fun than Oblivion ever was.

i think that the lore is crippling this franchise, TES is great but some of their creativity is notched down by the lore, if they were able to expand without the hard-core fans getting butt hurt than that would be great.

He's ten. What did you expect him to be an art critic or something?

Let him play CoD

Someone hasn't been to Blackreach yet.

EDIT: you've been there. My bad. My brain flew right over the quest name. I still believe some of the Dwemer ruins offer the best dungeon design in the game, regardless of their walls' color.

Haha, a 10 year old playing Call of Duty. That series really is basically a babysitter.

*looks at the quests that i have said we have done in dwemer ruins
*facepalms

i found some of the falmer and dwemer dungeons to be excellent imo. i found the dungeons to be of a high standard all round, even with traps that dont really do there job and puzzles to fool only the simiplist of skeever. I very much enjoy finding a new dungeon, which imo still doing after 200h.
ps your brother being 10 and finding things boring is no surprise and imo why this game should not have aimed its sights so wide to catchbthe biggest net of fish possible, alot of the buyers will just be like wtf give up and play other things by now.

Lol.I find your thread very funny and complete useless.
Your 10 year old brother is bored with Skyrim?
Well,let him grow up so he′ll be able to understand what he′s doing.
Believe me,-I′m 53,-and I′m absolut NOT bored with playing Skyrim.
Got my point?

/\ im with this guy, when your both a little more exsperienced im sure youll think differently.
in what respect, all i see is them exspanding the catch at the sake of the lore?! have we been playing the same series of games?!

ehhh.. a kid who looks up to you agrees with you... what? amazing.. are you a sorcerer?

the lore could make the games 100x more fun if bethesda follwoed it, oblivion would be rain-forest and not a hilly field, the falmer would still be elves (they were broke because bethesda needed a goblin to fight, so i actually agree with the 10year old there), and we could sail (consideing the nrods are natural sailors), the lore could only make the game better if bethesda followed it more

on-topic: the kid will say anything besides epic battles with massive demons and dragons are boring, TES is slow paced and more about exploration (used to be more character development but i excluded that when skills left [i snuck in a mini rant ])

I don't find the lore crippling at all. It has the deepest lore of any computer rpg I'm aware of. The fact that the lore looks different depending on the race and province means that Bethesda can pretty much do anything they want and work it into the lore. Bethesda still blows everyone else out of the water in visual design. Yes, the graphic technology is dated, but if you equate cutting edge technology with aesthetics then there's nothing I could say to convince you otherwise.

No

Horses for courses etc: I happen to think that the Dwemer ruins are the second best thing after the outside views. It's the old tombs that are starting to bore me. But put realistically - that's only after 200 hour of play.

I kept quiet.

some of the best looking games (iv ever played) were on ps2, realistic graphics (pretty much what every game trys for these days) are not the best, far from it imo

Let your 10 yr old brother play CoD or Counterstrike until he gets bored and grows up until he fully understands this game. I doubt it if he even reads the books he finds nor listen/talk to NPC's.

Actually it isn't the lore. It is the plain an simple truth of streamlining it for those 10 Year olds more and more to make it mainstream so they will buy it. Alot of people have not noticed but they have dumbed down the lore along with the games. Because of too many elitist whinners about things having to make sense and be logical in a FANTASY GAME. The story in itself is fine, but the streamlining the content and story is killing the franchise. I have said it before, someday TES will be no more then a blank map and a CK. The players will have to build it themselves because they are never happy with the game, no matter what BGS does.

what i was trying to say was that not everything needs to be so strict, the lore is pretty good but it shouldn't stop artist from having new ideas that could possibly be better

concerning the transmundane was boring? You did not like Blackreach? That dungeon was also interesting because you could find all of the explorers that perished there. (2 khajiits, 1 orc, dead guy w/ arrow in shoulder, etc.)

it isnt strict, the lore is horribly mutilated all the time (look at skyrim, if the vampire lore was more strict it would have been much much much better),

Idk, ive become more interested in TES because of lore. It has a unique history. Like our world but someone took the time to think of a new world with a history and all. And they could easily use imagination to change events of the future.

if your brother is ten, that makes your how old?! cod n skyrim are m rated games. it has nothing to do with how smart he is he just lacks the exsperince to apprechate it. You taking offence at that just makes me think your not old enough to aprechate it either. i used to love cod letting 10 yearolds play advlt games is not only inapproprate for his age but ruins the game your intended audience. i wont buying the next game, dont no how many times i must be burnt by these fps, let me have my 90 games back they were better just less shinny, wider audiences are killing advlt computer games.

He is 10..... what does the thing on the front of the cover say? it says 18 on mine.