Even my 10 year old brother thinks that parts of skyrim are

Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:16 am

Lol.I find your thread very funny and complete useless.
Your 10 year old brother is bored with Skyrim?
Well,let him grow up so he′ll be able to understand what he′s doing.
Believe me,-I′m 53,-and I′m absolut NOT bored with playing Skyrim.
Got my point?

I was 11 when Ultima IV came out in 1985... But I was a strange child :) Furthermore, I wasn't part of the Xbox generation - there were no first person shooters.

I swear kids these days ;) Attention spans just keep on droppin'...
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:50 am

Ugh, so what? He's just a kid..
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:07 pm

Let your 10 yr old brother play CoD or Counterstrike until he gets bored and grows up until he fully understands this game. I doubt it if he even reads the books he finds nor listen/talk to NPC's.

CoD is for 5year olds bro... BF3 is for 10 year olds... get it right :banana:
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:00 pm

CoD is for 5year olds bro... BF3 is for 10 year olds... get it right :banana:

Oh no you didn't... wait...
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:13 am

Children, bless their hearts, don't have a large attention span. A game like Skyrim isn't for a ten year old...that's why it's rated M for Mature. It takes focus and concentration to play. :tes:
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:36 am

the lore could make the games 100x more fun if bethesda follwoed it, oblivion would be rain-forest and not a hilly field, the falmer would still be elves (they were broke because bethesda needed a goblin to fight, so i actually agree with the 10year old there), and we could sail (consideing the nrods are natural sailors), the lore could only make the game better if bethesda followed it more

on-topic: the kid will say anything besides epic battles with massive demons and dragons are boring, TES is slow paced and more about exploration (used to be more character development but i excluded that when skills left [i snuck in a mini rant :biggrin: ])

Cyrodiil is a forest though....that rains.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:26 pm

I'm really confused. Dwemer in Skyrim are boring and generic, but Dwemer in Morrowind were great?
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:50 pm

Oh, look. A jack thread.

In response to your choices, im going to have to disagree as I absolutely despise Japanese anime and the entire art style. :(


Hmm. Personally, I've never felt the Final Fantasy games to have anything in common, art-wise, with anime. And then there's the part where I've seen anime in a great variety of art styles. Meh, whatever. :shrug:
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:46 am

Ten year old little "kids" have "zero" respect for greatly developed Action RPG's in todays society, enough said!
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:28 am

I'm 65 so we have a 55 year difference. I love all the Dwemer stuff and kinda live in Blackreach sometimes.

It may have something to do with being so far underground and a little fear of "will we ever find the way out" whispering in your ear. I come from Stalker where the undergrounds are kinda nasty and the grand Dwemer ruins and the quite moderate opposition make the ruins my favorite places in Skyrim. You get the sense you could find out more about them and the books are always worth reading.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:42 am

I love the fact that some of the races are based on real world cultures. In fact i wouldnt have it any other way... The thought of some other rpgs where everyone is a generic 'English' type medieval character makes me cringe.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:09 pm

To put it simply, we avoid dwemer ruins. Unless there is some very important quest that requires their traversal we avoid them. He does not pay so much attention to the lore and even he thinks that FALMER are simple goblins and bethesda were not very smart in their creation (they could have made them unique, or they could have made goblins). I thought dwemer ruins in morrowind were good because they were unique. The poor quality graphics had my imagination picture them as being made with a reflective bronze metal that had rusted in areas. In skyrim however they are simply stone ruins with the occasional yellow pipe or poorly placed trap and they feel no different from anything else. My brother does not feel compeled to learn about such boring races because in skyrim they are boring as opposed to how i learnt as much as i could after morrowind. We Simply avoid those places because of how there is always more traps, less rewards and boring enemies. To us- Transcerning the transmundane, finding an elderscroll and unfathomable depths (he isn't in the college) were the worst quests in the game due to how much time you spend in these places.

I pick on dwemer ruins because they are wrecks to us. We also find nord culture to be more boring than nordic cultures and nords stupid (i looked deeply into it and he looked at it) and that the portrayal of thalmor and dragons was rather shallow to the child. Another thing that he added was that he wished for spears, more weapons, a crossbow, throwing knives, more magic and less of those appalling kill animations, especially when the standard animations fail. He's a 10 year old who spends the same ammount of time on skyrim as he does COD (first tes game he got into was Ob, he didnt get to play much or morrowind) and doesnt pay attention to the lore yet he shares MY opinion ( a fanatic) in almost everything that skyrim has done wrong.

Now- if a casual gamer finds something boring generic- what are bethesda doing in making the game MORE generic? Clearly if both ends of the spectrum agree that The game is truly unimaginative,uninspiring and seemingly unending in some areas then bethesda should try and make areas and cultures unique?


Edit: he likes about half the game and half it's enemies. People saying that he isn't smart enough to appreciate skyrim probably arent smart enough to be saying things like this


What I read: blah, blah, blah, blah. Pointless post. I find the Falmer excellent, the Dwemer ruins are my favorite, the huge dungeons amazing and your opinion to be just that..... yours.... whoop de doo.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:25 am

i think that the lore is crippling this franchise, TES is great but some of their creativity is notched down by the lore, if they were able to expand without the hard-core fans getting butt hurt than that would be great.

If they wanted an weird fantasy setting they could put it on Summerset Isles. I guess that would be weirder than Morrowind, or the khajiit homeland with all the different types of Khajiit.
Notice they shift around as they want, Cyrodil was supposed to be tropical as far as I know, yes the southern part start to look a bit tropical but that is all.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:29 pm

So now we're dragging in little kids to help us sh*t on the game? I don't give a flying f**k what a 10 year old thinks about anything. When he's able to write his own name without f**king it up, I might give a d**n. Any other family members to drag in? How about a thread about your dog? My dog just did a wee on my skyrim box because he just couldn't stand the depiction of the dragons.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:40 am

We also find nord culture to be more boring than nordic cultures and nords stupid (i looked deeply into it and he looked at it…..)

What the bloody hell does this run on sentence mean? It's completely nonsensical. :blink:
I pick on dwemer ruins because they are wrecks to us.
Newsflash. Dwemer ruins ARE supposed to be wrecks. Elsewhere in the news: Water is wet. Man bites dog. Sugar is sweet. :laugh:

…throwing knives, more magic and less of those appalling kill animations, especially when the standard animations fail. He's a 10 year old who spends the same ammount of time on skyrim as he does COD (first tes game he got into was Ob, he didnt get to play much or morrowind) and doesnt pay attention to the lore yet he shares MY opinion ( a fanatic) in almost everything that skyrim has done wrong.
I'm not going to ask why your 10 year old brother is playing a M rated game. That being said, perhaps wait until both of you mature enough to be less impatient with a low action rpg game like this? Did you ever consider that part of the reason why your younger brother might find this game "boring" is because of the M rating? That there ARE games out there on the market in which not 100% of everything is a mindless shoot em up or hack and slash? That TES happens to be one of them? That a lot of the non-violent complexity in the game play may be lost on him, simply because he's too young to understand the subtlety encountered in the in game lore that goes back to previous games like Arena and Battlespire? That he may lack the maturity to appreciate the knowledge obtained from reading books to discover better ways of combat, crafting, or uncovering actual quests from stories in these books? Or realizing the in game TES history will better help him understand the events of the civil war? The racial situation in Tamriel? Or gain knowledge about exploration in the Skyrim environment, collecting ingredients for potions etc. etc .

That being said, I'd also hope that he dedicates more time towards REAL LIFE activities (besides the social networking variety) Like playing soccer, doing homework, and interacting with real live people. The fact a 10 year old is actually playing a game like this pretty much sums up what's wrong with this entire post IMO.

Now- if a casual gamer finds something boring generic- what are bethesda doing in making the game MORE generic? Clearly if both ends of the spectrum agree that The game is truly unimaginative,uninspiring and seemingly unending in some areas then bethesda should try and make areas and cultures unique?
The question is : what are YOU doing to make the game less generic?? My recommendation: have your 10 year old brother go play Saints Row 3. :lol: If it's ok for him to play M games, SRTT should give him the most for his investment. A casual, superficial--and completely mindless---action game experience. And instead of complaining, I'd suggest that you personally consider writing a mod to improve what you dislike about the game.

We Simply avoid those places because of how there is always more traps, less rewards and boring enemies. To us- Transcerning the transmundane, finding an elderscroll and unfathomable depths (he isn't in the college) were the worst quests in the game due to how much time you spend in these places.
Your brother's age exempts him by default. But you unfortunately seem to belong to a new, and increasingly impatient breed of gamer. A casual sort of gamer who doesn't care for game play depth, is highly goal oriented, demands instant gratification from every game play exploit (aka must have an achievement trophy for every damned thing you do in the game), prefers graphics and fps to quality and content, must have instantaneous means of tracking your social status through stats, and prefers social media/multiplayer to single player games.

You're the type of new gamer who hates creative problem solving, and so doesn't care for open sandbox type of gameplay. You gravitate to games that are completley dumbed down, so that you can "beat the game" faster. You prefer to have your hand held through every stage of the gameplay. You're an impatient type of gamer who is obsessed with leveling/skilling up, cheating most of the way to level/skill up, playing god mode characters who magically annihilate/hack,/slash every NPC your character encounters throughout the entire game...

You're basically the type of casual gamer who is easily bored if the game pace doesn't consist of mindless non stop action. Heaven forbid if you actually have to use your brain and READ something like a book that would actually help you in game. Based on what you've said, I've got the impression you're a new type of TES gamer who basically fast travels everywhere, uses console cheats to get the best armor /weapons /skills, and masacres anything that crosses your path in the game. :lol:

All just so you can brag about how fast you've "beaten the game in X hours" on this forum, Twitter and on FB. And after "beating the game" you wind up making posts like "Bored of Skyrim", or "Skyrim svcks", or posts like these. :lol:

Thankfully, the TES franchise still has a ways to go before completely catering to this type of gamer.
Makes me wonder what your opinion would've been if Skyrim actually required you navigate by TYPING on a keyboard. That's how navigation in TES games like Daggerfall and Arena used to be. And if you spelled anything incorrectly, you could forget traveling anywhere. And those old school games were damned hard to "beat" compared to today's standards btw. So count yourself lucky that technology now restricts you to mouse clicking or button mashing! :lol:
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:51 pm

What the bloody hell does this run on sentence mean? It's completely nonsensical. :blink:

Newsflash. Dwemer ruins ARE supposed to be wrecks. Elsewhere in the news: Water is wet. Man bites dog. Sugar is sweet. :laugh:


I'm not going to ask why your 10 year old brother is playing a M rated game. That being said, perhaps wait until both of you mature enough to be less impatient with a low action rpg game like this? Did you ever consider that part of the reason why your younger brother might find this game "boring" is because of the M rating? That there ARE games out there on the market in which not 100% of everything is a mindless shoot em up or hack and slash? That TES happens to be one of them? That a lot of the non-violent complexity in the game play may be lost on him, simply because he's too young to understand the subtlety encountered in the in game lore that goes back to previous games like Arena and Battlespire? That he may lack the maturity to appreciate the knowledge obtained from reading books to discover better ways of combat, crafting, or uncovering actual quests from stories in these books? Or realizing the in game TES history will better help him understand the events of the civil war? The racial situation in Tamriel? Or gain knowledge about exploration in the Skyrim environment, collecting ingredients for potions etc. etc .

That being said, I'd also hope that he dedicates more time towards REAL LIFE activities (besides the social networking variety) Like playing soccer, doing homework, and interacting with real live people. The fact a 10 year old is actually playing a game like this pretty much sums up what's wrong with this entire post IMO.


The question is : what are YOU doing to make the game less generic?? My recommendation: have your 10 year old brother go play Saints Row 3. :lol: If it's ok for him to play M games, SRTT should give him the most for his investment. A casual, superficial--and completely mindless---action game experience. And instead of complaining, I'd suggest that you personally consider writing a mod to improve what you dislike about the game.


Your brother's age exempts him by default. But you unfortunately seem to belong to a new, and increasingly impatient breed of gamer. A casual sort of gamer who doesn't care for game play depth, is highly goal oriented, demands instant gratification from every game play exploit (aka must have an achievement trophy for every damned thing you do in the game), prefers graphics and fps to quality and content, must have instantaneous means of tracking your social status through stats, and prefers social media/multiplayer to single player games.

You're the type of new gamer who hates creative problem solving, and so doesn't care for open sandbox type of gameplay. You gravitate to games that are completley dumbed down, so that you can "beat the game" faster. You prefer to have your hand held through every stage of the gameplay. You're an impatient type of gamer who is obsessed with leveling/skilling up, cheating most of the way to level/skill up, playing god mode characters who magically annihilate/hack,/slash every NPC your character encounters throughout the entire game...

You're basically the type of casual gamer who is easily bored if the game pace doesn't consist of mindless non stop action. Heaven forbid if you actually have to use your brain and READ something like a book that would actually help you in game. Based on what you've said, I've got the impression you're a new type of TES gamer who basically fast travels everywhere, uses console cheats to get the best armor /weapons /skills, and masacres anything that crosses your path in the game. :lol:

All just so you can brag about how fast you've "beaten the game in X hours" on this forum, Twitter and on FB. And after "beating the game" you wind up making posts like "Bored of Skyrim", or "Skyrim svcks", or posts like these. :lol:

Thankfully, the TES franchise still has a ways to go before completely catering to this type of gamer.
Makes me wonder what your opinion would've been if Skyrim actually required you navigate by TYPING on a keyboard. That's how navigation in TES games like Daggerfall and Arena used to be. And if you spelled anything incorrectly, you could forget traveling anywhere. And those old school games were damned hard to "beat" compared to today's standards btw. So count yourself lucky that technology now restricts you to mouse clicking or button mashing! :lol:
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:39 am

I don't really see what age has to do with oppinion in that case. Explanation please?
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:21 pm

I don't really see what age has to do with oppinion in that case. Explanation please?
Common belief that younger=simpler minded. Personally I think its because of the generation gap. A 10 year old isnt going to give a rats ass about a game with real lore anyhow (If they do, i'm [censored]in amazed.) they're gonna be caring about the newest CoD game, their facebook status, and how many people will tell them their age/six and lcation on omegle.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:02 am

Common belief that younger=simpler minded. Personally I think its because of the generation gap. A 10 year old isnt going to give a rats ass about a game with real lore anyhow (If they do, i'm [censored]in amazed.) they're gonna be caring about the newest CoD game, their facebook status, and how many people will tell them their age/six and lcation on omegle.

So if this is the case, I still don't see what this has to do with oppinion about what is boring...? An oppinion is an oppinion, no matter what age. I personally think the Dwemer ruins are really cool. I am in my mid twenties. I don't think I am more simple-minded than a 10year old though.

Thanks for the explanation but if this was what OP intended, its writer seems to be wrong.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:25 am

So if this is the case, I still don't see what this has to do with oppinion about what is boring...? An oppinion is an oppinion, no matter what age. I personally think the Dwemer ruins are really cool. I am in my mid twenties. I don't think I am more simple-minded than a 10year old though.

Thanks for the explanation but if this was what OP intended, its writer seems to be wrong.
same here. I love Skyrim with a passion, and the only reason it got boring for me was a lack of time to sit and enjoy it. Now that I have plenty of time to sit and play it, i've yet to see anything 'boring' or 'stale', but it is as you say, its all opinion.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:21 pm

Common belief that younger=simpler minded. Personally I think its because of the generation gap. A 10 year old isnt going to give a rats ass about a game with real lore anyhow (If they do, i'm [censored]in amazed.) they're gonna be caring about the newest CoD game, their facebook status, and how many people will tell them their age/six and lcation on omegle.

The way that the lore exists in this game isn't good. You've to read books and books and books. And then you'll see a completely different game. It's not the same as the book told.

I want to see the consequences of what happened in the world...

For example: The great war. You see the division between people... The hate against the Thalmor (Also, makes you feel angry with them too). It's great how they've done it here.

But how about other things?

In FO3, everybody is trying to survive after the nuclear war. You can see the story being very important. And there is consequences in the life of everyone.


In Skyrim it's totally different. It seems like the past is not important.
But it is! If you know the lore, you'll make your decisions based on it.

Before knowing the lore: I'll go with the Empire, because they're cool!
After: I'll go with the Empire, because I think that a united Empire is the only way to defeat the Thalmor.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:32 pm

What the bloody hell does this run on sentence mean? It's completely nonsensical. :blink:

Newsflash. Dwemer ruins ARE supposed to be wrecks. Elsewhere in the news: Water is wet. Man bites dog. Sugar is sweet. :laugh:


I'm not going to ask why your 10 year old brother is playing a M rated game. That being said, perhaps wait until both of you mature enough to be less impatient with a low action rpg game like this? Did you ever consider that part of the reason why your younger brother might find this game "boring" is because of the M rating? That there ARE games out there on the market in which not 100% of everything is a mindless shoot em up or hack and slash? That TES happens to be one of them? That a lot of the non-violent complexity in the game play may be lost on him, simply because he's too young to understand the subtlety encountered in the in game lore that goes back to previous games like Arena and Battlespire? That he may lack the maturity to appreciate the knowledge obtained from reading books to discover better ways of combat, crafting, or uncovering actual quests from stories in these books? Or realizing the in game TES history will better help him understand the events of the civil war? The racial situation in Tamriel? Or gain knowledge about exploration in the Skyrim environment, collecting ingredients for potions etc. etc .

That being said, I'd also hope that he dedicates more time towards REAL LIFE activities (besides the social networking variety) Like playing soccer, doing homework, and interacting with real live people. The fact a 10 year old is actually playing a game like this pretty much sums up what's wrong with this entire post IMO.


The question is : what are YOU doing to make the game less generic?? My recommendation: have your 10 year old brother go play Saints Row 3. :lol: If it's ok for him to play M games, SRTT should give him the most for his investment. A casual, superficial--and completely mindless---action game experience. And instead of complaining, I'd suggest that you personally consider writing a mod to improve what you dislike about the game.


Your brother's age exempts him by default. But you unfortunately seem to belong to a new, and increasingly impatient breed of gamer. A casual sort of gamer who doesn't care for game play depth, is highly goal oriented, demands instant gratification from every game play exploit (aka must have an achievement trophy for every damned thing you do in the game), prefers graphics and fps to quality and content, must have instantaneous means of tracking your social status through stats, and prefers social media/multiplayer to single player games.

You're the type of new gamer who hates creative problem solving, and so doesn't care for open sandbox type of gameplay. You gravitate to games that are completley dumbed down, so that you can "beat the game" faster. You prefer to have your hand held through every stage of the gameplay. You're an impatient type of gamer who is obsessed with leveling/skilling up, cheating most of the way to level/skill up, playing god mode characters who magically annihilate/hack,/slash every NPC your character encounters throughout the entire game...

You're basically the type of casual gamer who is easily bored if the game pace doesn't consist of mindless non stop action. Heaven forbid if you actually have to use your brain and READ something like a book that would actually help you in game. Based on what you've said, I've got the impression you're a new type of TES gamer who basically fast travels everywhere, uses console cheats to get the best armor /weapons /skills, and masacres anything that crosses your path in the game. :lol:

All just so you can brag about how fast you've "beaten the game in X hours" on this forum, Twitter and on FB. And after "beating the game" you wind up making posts like "Bored of Skyrim", or "Skyrim svcks", or posts like these. :lol:

Thankfully, the TES franchise still has a ways to go before completely catering to this type of gamer.
Makes me wonder what your opinion would've been if Skyrim actually required you navigate by TYPING on a keyboard. That's how navigation in TES games like Daggerfall and Arena used to be. And if you spelled anything incorrectly, you could forget traveling anywhere. And those old school games were damned hard to "beat" compared to today's standards btw. So count yourself lucky that technology now restricts you to mouse clicking or button mashing! :lol:

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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:35 pm

This game requires a half-way developed frontal lobe. You guys can feed your brain stem with some COD.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:10 pm

Lol your thread title should be "My 10 year old brother finds parts of skyrim generic and boring; obviously."
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:59 am

Well, it's generic at some parts (hacking & slashing & leveling up), but on the other hand, it's a unique experience, and it is unique for everyone. How often you could say you just killed a dragon by impaling it's head or just watched the sun rise from over the mountains? And how often you actually could compare your experience with your friends and heard what they did AND find out that they played the game totally different than you? THOSE (among many others) are the moments that i find Skyrim to be so awesome. Nuff said.
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