That was what im talking about, Fallout 3 wasnt the good game when it was released, it got better with the latest patches, Fallout 4 can be a good game, but nobody can assure that the game isnt gonna have bugs,
Difference is Bethesda gets on the ball and fixes their games.
Obsidian?
Fans had to fix NWN2 with mods even after Obsidian's "patches".
Fans had to fix KotOR 2 with mods even after Obsidian's "patches".
Nobody fixed Alpha Protocol, Obsidian and SEGA left it to rot and ran wih what little money it made them.
And fans are having to fix Fallout New Vegas on PC while ( the console people are stuck) Obsidian is busy trying to sell DLC crap.
So I'll take Bethesda's "bugginess" over Obsidian any day.
Obsidian need to stop making anything but PC games, as they cannot make ANY game without relying on patches and fan mods.