Seeing as I'm also disgustingly lazy when it comes to most quests I'd said that's a valid assessment.

Perhaps not, but their invasion was over hundreds of years of slavery, while you're killing random Argonians who had nothing to do with the invasion... why?

Because they slaughtered my peopl--

..Okay you got me there.

Fine, but if I see an Argonian soldier...that [censored] is mine.

possibly my favourite quote since i entered the skyrim forums there. all 16 days or so.

my character, well... was trying to be honourable, but the Dark Brotherhood has such nice robes. think i took a break from questing though in Morthal, fur armour, helping with the sawmill/firewood making and so on.
...might be what i do with my next character, just surviving as part of a small city or town. Current character is more "There's a tomb! I must search it for shiny things" style. no quest i like left uncompleted, no corpse unlooted, nothing that tries to kill me un-killed.
Thieves guild i've not tried yet, assuming you're playing as a guild thief of course, so far my only stolen items are from people who failed badly at trying to kill me.

You can get those nice robes without joining them.

True, but my moral nice person side kinda went away til the repeatable quests appeared. only came back After a fully upgraded brotherhood base... may be why i suddenly went over to mage's college, and put away the dark brotherhood stuff.

Anyway, i'll be back eventually. for now, the main quest is finally progressing, and i have 4 hours before i get tired... messed up sleep pattern.

Exactly. As long as she doesn't proceed with the Main Quest line she will never have to see a single dragon because Mirmulnir (the first dragon) does not spawn until she proceeds to a specific event in the MQ line. Random dragons do NOT spawn until Mirmulnir is killed. The only dragon she might ever see is Alduin and he doesn't really attack unless you provoke him and even if you do he just leaves you alone after blasting you away with his uber supped up version of FUS DOH RAH (which btw is freaking rigged).

I personally would never do it because I hunt every flying lizard I see but I respect another person's right to game how they want. If she wanted to not kill a single dragon that is a completely way to play until she finishes every quest BUT the Mainquest line and dragon extermination type quests.

do they actually die when you kill them? I was never quite sure about that, it looks like you do, but I thought I also heard something about their skeletons turning to stone, and being reborn should Alduin rise again. So maybe you're just putting them to sleep.

Anyway, think to yourself, the dragons are not human/humanoid, their goal is the destruction/enslavement of the entire human/elven/beast race(s), first and foremost you need to protect your own species above others, yourself included.

The Dragonborn is the ultimate dragon slayer. When other people do kill a dragon they are just putting them to "sleep" until Alduin can resurrect them. However when the Dragonborn kills one he absorbs the very soul of the dragon thus killing the dragon once and for all. At least that is what I got when Esbern was talking about the Dragonborn so what I said could be all hogwash.

Dunmer are dikes. They had it coming and I was glad to hear the Argonians invaded. Hundreds of years of slavery revolt!

NO U >:C

But wasn't slavery abolished in Morrwind 'before' they invaded?

So the Dunnmer are just learning to change their ways...so the Argoninans decide to kill them.

When Morrwind is rebuilt, yea, the Argoninas are in for it. >_>

Dunmer are weak, Argonians take over...seems logical from a strategic view. I'm sure the Dunmer would do the same other way around.

Don't understand why all the Dunmer didn't just firecloak during the invasion.

Ha! more like Deadthurnax! Amiright? Nevermind, ill leave now.

Some questions that need to be answered if one is to justify that protecting dragons is "ethical."

1. Hundreds of serial killers have been released from prison. They WILL kill as many people as they can, and you have the power to stop them. What do you do?

2. A few of the said serial killers have, in fact, reformed. However, before they can gather the others and teach them to be peaceful, their charismatic leader must be killed. You have the power to do so. What do you do?

3. Said serial killers were imprisoned because they were the leaders of a tyrannical government that committed numerous crimes against humanity. Many of these crimes were commited long before any conflict arose: they were not in retaliation of any offense. The current government is the result of a coup that overthrew that government. Are the people who participated in the coup guilty? If so, of what?

Of course, if the argument is that dragons are cool...well, I agree. So what's better? Killing cool stuff in cool ways.

This makes me sad to be a human being. This whole role playing thing has gotten entirely out of hand. That's just my opinion.

I'm gonna go play my video game now... And be thankful for the life and mind state I have.

First of all this thread is suspiciously well timed on the OP/Responder, but anyways,

From an ethics point of view,
1) Self defense is justifiable and our legal system keeps people at extreme risk to reoffend in prisons for a reason. If they somehow all broke out any the all went on a killing spree then that is when special response teams come in and would try to either put them back in jail or they will be shot if the situation is critical.

2) Killing is never "good" but if you have a stereotypical I am going to end this world and have zero redeeming features antagonist then your obligated by plot logic and ethics to do something about it.

3) Well actually many of the crimes occurred in response to rebellion from a set of bad proxy leaders chosen, (http://www.imperial-library.info/content/skyrim-dragon-war), the writers really are just placing people into big 3d models. But anyways, it seems unlikely that all of them were at fault but basically all of them died in the process.

From a gameplay point of view,
1) Game was designed for you to go and save the world through said main quest, but you don't technically need to do anything that the game tells you to as your in control, just press ~ and you'll be in even more control

2) It is an open world game so role play however you like, you might even want to try out this short game mod (http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-stanley-parable) its quite interesting and very meta-game/choice/etc...

3) If you want you can just use the console to skip stages, make stuff vanish into thin air, etc.. etc.. (disable, setstage, coc) give yourself shouts all through game breaking cheats but it is your own SP experience

Aren't you glad you can be sad.

Video games are like books and movies just interactive the medium is likely to cause these types of your doing it wrong situations. Some games are more like movies though and if your doing it wrong you die, teleport, get nagged, etc. that doesn't make those games bad just a different style. Open world games are easy to have players get lost or purposely go off the rails so its up to the game designers to make something entertaining in a more general sense (This can lead to polish issues though, Bugs especially).

Uhh... no, they didn't. 95% of their population was killed off thanks to foreign diseases like small pox given as gifts/ploy to make them sick. Learn your history. They were brutally murdered as savages, and enslaved.

Lmao at above post.

Thanks for the history lesson. I certainly have learned new things from your post. I didn't realize that all Indians were killed and hostile and enslaved. I guess that's what all those casinos are about. Slavery.

Which is why comparing Native Americans to dragons in Skyrim is insulting at best.

On a side note, rqoawal: I agree, but my post was mostly just sarcasm.

Insulting to whom, precisely? Is comparing a fictional event to an historical one insulting? Historical fiction must drive somebody up a tree then. Frankly it was probably a bad anology not because of the looming threat of political correctness, but because it actually doesn't make much sense. The discussion my summoner is talking about took place a good month or so ago, before the actual game release.

That being said, this thread's degenerating quicker than anticipated. Time to abandon ship.

Insulting to Native Americans? You're missing the point. Comparing history and fiction is not bad in and of itself. It's bad when it's done poorly, and I'll leave it at that. It has little to do with political correctness and more to do with what the anology really implies.

I'll apologize if it was meant to be a joke. I certainly wasn't looking for a fight.

Truth be told, what I really saw from the thread was simply a lot of "anything scaly is awesome and therefore good," which is why, in my first reply, I gave my real two cents.

Cali the Liar: But if you don't start the MQ all but two dragons will be be dead. Killing the first dragon means that their race comes back to life and since your good at stealth you can just avoid hostle dragons that are ungrateful for you letting them come back to life.

Edit: Also other than the first one you only have to kill one other,