I have an infuriating friend--a discussion of Dragons and Mo

Post » Mon May 28, 2012 1:16 pm

Jeez, if it is, troll threads have gone downhill since my time :/

I was hoping it was a troll thread. But since its serious I have to say its a pretty derpy argument. Considering one side doesn't explain to the other why the Dragons have to pay in blood while the other side doesn't try to really understand why, just that they like dragons and refuse to kill them.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 3:31 pm

Frankly I have a big live and let live relationship with the dragons. They don't bug me, I let them fly around. Skyrim burning down isn't my problem, I'm only in it to sell everything that isn't nailed down to the fence at the Ragged Flagon and like I said- I've only seen the one and he was helping me break out of an executioner's block. I'm more than happy to let a few slip by for saving my life to pillage another day.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 10:57 am

I was hoping it was a troll thread. But since its serious I have to say its a pretty derpy argument. Considering one side doesn't explain to the other why the Dragons have to pay in blood while the other side doesn't try to really understand why, just that they like dragons and refuse to kill them.

Oh it is a moot (reference) point really~ It is not about, Cali understanding the reason behind the Dragon slaying. More that for her, the Dragons are good~ Right now. Since she hasn't progressed the main storyquest, making the Dragons dormant and quiet. ^.^

Mister Khajiit just does not see why that'd be fun or why someone would buy a game "essentially" about Dragon slaying and not slay Dragons.
Then again I play chess, but all my pawns can move outside the board. That usually takes the piss for most people - but atleast I have fun ^_^,
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 12:51 pm

My character is a nice guy if he walks into a city and a dragon attacks he kills it. If a dragon is nearby and may attack he kills it. If a dragon is alone on the top of a mountain he kills it just in case. I'm human not dragon, even if I have the soul of one it doesn't stop me from being human and preventing the enslavement and degradation of my peers. And Cali the only way you are able to play peacefully is b/c the dragon spawning never occurred at the moment it is like you are playing in a frozen bubble of time where Alduin just left Helgen.

And well said. My character kills Dragons because he feels the need to protect the citizens of Tamriel(Even stormcloaks and pro-stormcloaks), save for the Thalmor who he sees as just another threat to Tamriel, let alone the empire.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 4:54 pm

And well said. My character kills Dragons because he feels the need to protect the citizens of Tamriel(Even stormcloaks and pro-stormcloaks), save for the Thalmor who he sees as just another threat to Tamriel, let alone the empire.

And presumably when the dragons start spawning I still won't because who cares about Tamriel when there's stuff to steal. Especially if the Dragons burn down the Thalmor when they're done.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 3:22 pm

Frankly I have a big live and let live relationship with the dragons. They don't bug me, I let them fly around. Skyrim burning down isn't my problem, I'm only in it to sell everything that isn't nailed down to the fence at the Ragged Flagon and like I said- I've only seen the one and he was helping me break out of an executioner's block. I'm more than happy to let a few slip by for saving my life to pillage another day.

That right there is why I can never roleplay as a true thief. I can be the guy who steals [censored] for money but not the person who says [censored] the world around me I just want to make a profit.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 2:31 pm

That right there is why I can never roleplay as a true thief. I can be the guy who steals [censored] for money but not the person who says [censored] the world around me I just want to make a profit.

Well, most thieves would likely take interest in the world because without Civilization and the World there can be nothing to own and profit from, making them survivors in the long run.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 2:59 am

What the censored. You guys are only siding with her because she has boobs.
Haha sore loser eh?
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 6:45 am

And presumably when the dragons start spawning I still won't because who cares about Tamriel when there's stuff to steal. Especially if the Dragons burn down the Thalmor when they're done.
They won't be much to steal once Alduin eats the world.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 12:41 pm

And presumably when the dragons start spawning I still won't because who cares about Tamriel when there's stuff to steal. Especially if the Dragons burn down the Thalmor when they're done.

But the Thalmor want that to happen they want the whole world to be eaten by Alduin so everyone will die and they will ascend once again. You are just playing the short game. Be like Odin prepare for the end of times by stopping the dragons now
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 12:06 pm

But the Thalmor want that to happen they want the whole world to be eaten by Alduin so everyone will die and they will ascend once again. You are just playing the short game. Be like Odin prepare for the end of times by stopping the dragons now
she could always Rp someone else is Dragonborn.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 11:38 am

This thread reeks of Trolled.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 11:30 am

Well, most thieves would likely take interest in the world because without Civilization and the World there can be nothing to own and profit from, making them survivors in the long run.

Yeah but at least all the pesky guards will be gone. See I play a proper nihilistic thief, none of the soft thievery full of Robin-Hood esque niceties that make my profession the joke of the stockades. Take what you can, give nothing back. And saying what someone -should- do in an RPG is ultimately pointless because it's what they -actually- do that matters. Especially in a single player game.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 6:11 am

Beep bop boop.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 1:43 pm

Yeah but at least all the pesky guards will be gone. See I play a proper nihilistic thief, none of the soft thievery full of Robin-Hood esque niceties that make my profession the joke of the stockades. Take what you can, give nothing back. And saying what someone -should- do in an RPG is ultimately pointless because it's what they -actually- do that matters. Especially in a single player game.

I'm not saying what you should or shouldn't do. I'm just digging to see if you -truly- understand the decisions you made. And I agree with an anti-robin hood playstyle. Its why I prefer the Morrowind and Skyrim Thieves guilds to the Oblivion one. Though my stealth based character is just flat out crooked and might do anything for power and not just wealth.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 3:59 pm

Grizzly bears.

Grizzly bears have been around long before we paved roads and raised a civilization. They're majestic and amazing to watch. But they can be dangerous. If a Grizzly walks into town, that can be a problem that has to be dealt with. If everyone felt the way this girl feels about dragons, men, women AND children would be senselessly mauled/eaten/killed. So (if they have to) they put the bear down.


But these are dragons we're talking about. And we're not talking about Draco from Dragonheart. They are morally evil. Even if people came first in Tamriel, the dragons would still be bent on killing/destroying. They only care for their own power and nothing more. They wouldn't share the same pity your friend has for them.

You could also mention that you have a dragon ally later on in the main quest.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 8:06 am

It's role-playing, is what it is. Has she killed the first dragon yet? If so, she's not officially a Dragonborn yet, so it's not a problem
Nah, Todd says you play a Dragonborn.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 7:14 am

I'm not saying what you should or shouldn't do. I'm just digging to see if you -truly- understand the decisions you made. And I agree with an anti-robin hood playstyle. Its why I prefer the Morrowind and Skyrim Thieves guilds to the Oblivion one. Though my stealth based character is just flat out crooked and might do anything for power and not just wealth.

Power's a secondary concern. Frankly, I work better on my own. Lydia might argue differently, at least from what I've seen on my warrior's playthrough, but my thief couldn't possibly care less. All that matters is the payoff. And killing dragons doesn't really work out in my favor. I make a bit of coin, sure, but becoming famous is the -last thing I want- as someone whose entire way of life hinges on them being completely anonymous.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 5:57 pm

Yeah but at least all the pesky guards will be gone. See I play a proper nihilistic thief, none of the soft thievery full of Robin-Hood esque niceties that make my profession the joke of the stockades. Take what you can, give nothing back. And saying what someone -should- do in an RPG is ultimately pointless because it's what they -actually- do that matters. Especially in a single player game.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 6:52 am

Grizzly bears.

Grizzly bears have been around long before we paved roads and raised a civilization. They're majestic and amazing to watch. But they can be dangerous. If a Grizzly walks into town, that can be a problem that has to be dealt with. If everyone felt the way this girl feels about dragons, men, women AND children would be senselessly mauled/eaten/killed. So (if they have to) they put the bear down.


But these are dragons we're talking about. And we're not talking about Draco from Dragonheart. They are morally evil. Even if people came first in Tamriel, the dragons would still be bent on killing/destroying. They only care for their own power and nothing more. They wouldn't share the same pity your friend has for them.

You could also mention that you have a dragon ally later on in the main quest.

Basically this. In the Elder Scrolls lore, Dragons are hellbent on Dominating. It just happens that Alduin is the Alpha male of all the dragons as his Thu'um is the most powerful as well as being the firstborn of Akatosh.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 5:22 am

Grizzly bears.

Grizzly bears have been around long before we paved roads and raised a civilization. They're majestic and amazing to watch. But they can be dangerous. If a Grizzly walks into town, that can be a problem that has to be dealt with. If everyone felt the way this girl feels about dragons, men, women AND children would be senselessly mauled/eaten/killed. So (if they have to) they put the bear down.


But these are dragons we're talking about. And we're not talking about Draco from Dragonheart. They are morally evil. Even if people came first in Tamriel, the dragons would still be bent on killing/destroying. They only care for their own power and nothing more. They wouldn't share the same pity your friend has for them.

You could also mention that you have a dragon ally later on in the main quest.

With your avatar there's a certain.. intensity to your post. It feels~ Due hungover yet kind of funny~ >:3
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 11:37 am

Well from the responses this thread is getting I probably should've mentioned this earlier: I'm having fun without killing any dragons. Without kicking off the "main questline", my thief's simply collecting what she can from a country teetering on the brink of a vicious civil war before the whole place goes to pot. Fact is I feel like I get out of this game what I put into it, and it's brilliant to me whatever way I play it. On one of my playthroughs I simply have a character who couldn't care less about the whole dragon thing, and without caring about the Jarl of Whiterun's errands, either, the dragons simply never appear, and this has let me explore a world apart from the "main quest" world.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 1:55 pm

Well from the responses this thread is getting I probably should've mentioned this earlier: I'm having fun without killing any dragons. Without kicking off the "main questline", my thief's simply collecting what she can from a country teetering on the brink of a vicious civil war before the whole place goes to pot. Fact is I feel like I get out of this game what I put into it, and it's brilliant to me whatever way I play it. On one of my playthroughs I simply have a character who couldn't care less about the whole dragon thing, and without caring about the Jarl of Whiterun's errands, either, the dragons simply never appear, and this has let me explore a world apart from the "main quest" world.

Which I can respect as I have two characters I won't be doing the main quest on at all. I make my own story as I go, really.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 2:17 am

Which I can respect as I have two characters I won't be doing the main quest on at all. I make my own story as I go, really.

Exactly. But what I seem to be getting from this thread is "How can you possibly be having fun by not killing the dragons?"
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 11:32 am

Grizzly bears have been around long before we paved roads and raised a civilization. They're majestic and amazing to watch. But they can be dangerous. If a Grizzly walks into town, that can be a problem that has to be dealt with. If everyone felt the way this girl feels about dragons, men, women AND children would be senselessly mauled/eaten/killed. So (if they have to) they put the bear down.

You could also mention that you have a dragon ally later on in the main quest.

Really from my thief's point of view it's not so much "Hey dragons are great" as "...why should I care that men women AND children are being senselessly mauled/eaten/killed?" This just happens to line up with my OWN like of dragons, which while convenient, isn't a part of how I play the game, other than perhaps to admire them from a distance.
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