After all this time (since 11/11/11... however much time that is), it's agonizing. It's no longer really discussion; it's those of you who have entrenched themselves in each side agonizing over not getting the entirety of the player base on "your" side.
If it wasn't that, you (and those on the "other" side) wouldn't keep posting.
Now, I'm perfectly happy for you (and those on the "other" side) to have your own ideas about how to play the game, how to "normalize" things that maybe don't fit your preconceived ideas of the "way things ARE" - but the fact that y'all on BOTH sides keep extending minor threads with minor questions about specific situations from the original posters' views, making them - AGAIN - into a warzone of your personal views on who is right or not between the two factions....
Well, it beggars description.
Personally, I think y'all are wasting a huge amount of rhetoric on something that's completely useless. You personally prefer the 'cloaks. Others (whose names at this point escape me.... due most likely to age, memory, and wine) prefer the Imperials. And for some completely unfathomable reason, you (and others) think it's your personal god-driven imperative to CHANGE THE MINDS of those who for whatever reason like the Imperials.
It's just a discussion. It would not be much of a discussion if there was only one point of view. As far as changing minds goes, mine has been changed several times as a result of discussions on this forum. If my posts come across as trying to change people's minds, its because I am advocating a particular point of view. That does not mean I am not open to my view being changed by pursuasive arguments and verifiable evidence. I am sure I am not alone in this.
It's a game, Celan. Not only that, it's a sandbox game - nothing I do in my game will impinge on you in your game. Give it a rest. PLEASE give it a rest. And yes, I'm going to do that myself, because I'm all too frequently finding that hysterical laughter is ALL you and the others are invoking in me.
Exactly. It's a game. It is supposed to be fun. And its a roleplaying game. Some of us enjoy playing the role of a Stormcloak or an Imperial and engaging in verbal swordplay with our rivals. If our debate is invoking hysterical laughter, that's great, but don't make the mistake of thinking that any of us are taking this stuff too seriously, no matter which side we are on. It's all just fun.