London Riots

Post » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:32 am

With any luck the Police should already be on standby given events elsewhere and be rolling out to snuff it out before it escalates.

The footage showed riot police already on the streets so they are on standby probably in all the major cities just in case. The problem is the police haven't been doing much to stop it because they are too vastly outnumbered and spred to far apart.
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Post » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:32 am

Riots now breaking out in Liverpool!!!!!!!!!

Birmingham, Bristol (I think), Liverpool as well as London.

I think other places aren't anywhere near as bad as London. I would imagine that every major city has a lot of riot police on standby.
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Post » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:07 pm

As much as you English may mistrust the army, you may have no choice but to send them in.

I guess the unfortunate thing we're seeing here is, social media can be used for great good, as in the Arab Spring, but it can also be used for great evil. So it's obvious the great villain here is Mark Zuckerberg!!!!
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Post » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:02 am

Birmingham, Bristol (I think), Liverpool as well as London.

I think other places aren't anywhere near as bad as London.

Thankfully. The police are saying they are deploying 1700 more officers in London.
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Post » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:25 pm

Birmingham, Bristol (I think), Liverpool as well as London.

Link please? I can't find anything about this on the BBC news website and I'm hesitant to believe riots have broken out in Bristol, what excuse could they possibly have to riot? The riots in London are supposedly a response to the attitude of the police in that area of London and I haven't known of anything like that in Bristol.
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Post » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:52 pm

:( Let's hope it doesn't spread any further, Portsmouth is about 80% working class so I'd hate to see what'd happen.
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Post » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:34 am

Link please? I can't find anything about this on the BBC news website and I'm hesitant to believe riots have broken out in Bristol

Twitter, other online places. Search twitter for Bristol or #ukriots

The BBC seems to be quite behind, although Al Jazeera seems to have good coverage (although it is not covering it any more).

I can see any trouble getting crushed in other cities. I would assume they will by now have a lot of riot police on standby.
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Post » Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:18 pm

I am better than criminals. I have never broken the law because I know it's wrong. Just like the 99% of pother people in this country that know it is wrong. As far as I am concerened as soon as you break the law, your human rights should be irrelivent in comparison to the rights of those you are commiting the crime against. The law in this country has for too long been on the side of the criminal and that has to change


Yeah becuase the current government has done a great job what with the economy and everything else they like to screw up

*high fives*

And that's when a riot, showing the dissatisfaction of a people, turns into an all out civil war because the government has drastically overstepped their bounds.

How dare the police treat criminals like *gasp* criminals.

Fire rubber bullets into the crowd, if folks get hurt or die as a result its thier own damn fault.
http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx236/FutureJarhead16/1312843903577.jpg (not mine, found it elsewhere)
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Post » Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:07 pm

Are the police pulling out the cavalry charges? They seemed to work pretty well on the students :goodjob:
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Post » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:46 pm

Fire rubber bullets into the crowd, if folks get hurt or die as a result its thier own damn fault.

Yeah. I totally agree. For example [censored] the people at Bloody Sunday. They had it coming, including the ones shot in the back. Idiots shouldn't have been there.

<_<


In other words, do you really think it would help. An incident like several people getting killed would make things really grim.
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Post » Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:43 pm

Manchester now has reported looting :brokencomputer:

I just hope it stays in England. Luckily I live in a community with mostly old people. But if someone tried to burn my house, I would beat the [censored] out of them. [censored] degenerates.

I wouldn't you would most likely get arrested instead
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Post » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:23 pm

Yeah. I totally agree. For example [censored] the people at Bloody Sunday. They had it coming, including the ones shot in the back. Idiots shouldn't have been there.

<_<


In other words, do you really think it would help. An incident like several people getting killed would make things really grim.

Its rubber bullets. It likely wont kill you, if you do get killed as a result oh well. Some people died becuase of tazers, should we ban the police using them too ?

Yes it would, if those people keep burning and looting, shoot them again, eventually they will leave or be unable to keep burning/looting. If a person burning innocent peoples cars and businesses down dies, I wont give a [censored], I know other people who wouldnt. But hey lets just ignore them, they are delicate flowers, so we shouldnt punosh/harm them for acting like savages, no let them keep burning things. They wil lrun out of things to burn eventually right.


I just hope it stays in England. Luckily I live in a community with mostly old people. But if someone tried to burn my house, I would beat the [censored] out of them. [censored] degenerates.
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Post » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:40 am

Its rubber bullets. It likely wont kill you, if you do get killed as a result oh well. Some people died becuase of tazers, should we ban the police using them too ?
Yes. Probably. There is no such thing as a non lethal weapon. A rubber bulled in the head kills you just as well as a real one.

Yes it would, if those people keep burning and looting, shoot them again, eventually they will leave or be unable to keep burning/looting. If a person burning innocent peoples cars and businesses down dies, I wont give a [censored], I know other people who wouldnt. But hey lets just ignore them, they are delicate flowers, so we shouldnt punosh/harm them for acting like savages, no let them keep burning things. They wil lrun out of things to burn eventually right.

No.

The police would be shooting innocent people. Which is bad.

I don't know about other countries, but we have this idea that someone is innocent until they are proven guilty by a court. This generally means that the police can't go around shooting random people. It is useful because when they do this sort of thing seems to happen.
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Post » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:42 am

Manchester now has reported looting :brokencomputer:

There had better be retribution. I suggest we find a large uninhabited island where we can just dump all involved individuals, preferably a cold island with little shelter and ravenous wildlife. Then they can just fight each other until they wipe themselves out. I have very little patience for people who leap at the opportunity to cause destruction for their own twisted pleasure and for a few looted televisions.
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Post » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:28 am


~snip~



Considering how this started when some [censored] got shot, doing it again seems like a bad idea.
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Post » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:19 am

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx236/FutureJarhead16/1312843903577.jpg (not mine, found it elsewhere)


Sad, but true. Exactly how these people are acting. :yuck:
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Post » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:12 pm

Its rubber bullets. It likely wont kill you, if you do get killed as a result oh well. Some people died becuase of tazers, should we ban the police using them too ?

Yes it would, if those people keep burning and looting, shoot them again, eventually they will leave or be unable to keep burning/looting. If a person burning innocent peoples cars and businesses down dies, I wont give a [censored], I know other people who wouldnt. But hey lets just ignore them, they are delicate flowers, so we shouldnt punosh/harm them for acting like savages, no let them keep burning things. They wil lrun out of things to burn eventually right.


I just hope it stays in England. Luckily I live in a community with mostly old people. But if someone tried to burn my house, I would beat the [censored] out of them. [censored] degenerates.


I think you might be missing a point - if you look at the footage and read the reports of these riots, there are lots of bystanders unfortunate enough to be caught up in all of this. Firing off rubber bullets into such a crowd would be very dangerous to those not involved.
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Post » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:40 pm

Yes. Probably. There is no such thing as a non lethal weapon. A rubber bulled in the head kills you just as well as a real one.


No.

The police would be shooting innocent people. Which is bad.

I don't know about other countries, but we have this idea that someone is innocent until they are proven guilty by a court. This generally means that the police can't go around shooting random people. It is useful because when they do this sort of thing seems to happen.

Anything can kill, I dont care, fire kills. Thos epeople keep lighting them. So either they stop burning or the police start shooting.

Innocent until proven otherwise, we can see them llighting fires, throwing rocks and looting. Hmmm we need more evidence, becuase clearly seeing them isnt enough.

Considering how this started when some [censored] got shot, doing it again seems like a bad idea.

We shot binladen. Some people bithced swore revenge. We will just end up killing them too. And those inspired by them. And so on. If they wont stop you make them stop.

I think you might be missing a point - if you look at the footage and read the reports of these riots, there are lots of bystanders unfortunate enough to be caught up in all of this. Firing off rubber bullets into such a crowd would be very dangerous to those not involved.

Hard not to se when its all the news is on about. All I see is vandalism, arson and people acting like thugs. But like I said, I dont care.
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Post » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:15 pm


We shot binladen. Some people bithced swore revenge. We will just end up killing them too. And those inspired by them. And so on. If they wont stop you make them stop.



No we didn't. Some members of the US Special Forces did, and personally joining the army is the last thing I'll be doing. Either way, shooting into crowds of people, irrespective of whether they were rioting or not is never the best of ideas.
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Post » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:00 am

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I take it things started out as a peaceful protest and then escalated into violence along with tons of people joining in for the hell of it? What exactly sparked things to go from the peaceful protest to the stuff going on now?
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Post » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:03 pm

Rioting has now spread to Bristol, apparently.
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No we didn't. Some members of the US Special Forces did, and personally joining the army is the last thing I'll be doing. Either way, shooting into crowds of people, irrespective of whether they were rioting or not is never the best of ideas.

I meant the west, when I said we. Ok the US killed binladen. But several other countries (including the US and UK) are going to kill those who are inspired by him.


Better option ?
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Post » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:59 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I take it things started out as a peaceful protest and then escalated into violence along with tons of people joining in for the hell of it? What exactly sparked things to go from the peaceful protest to the stuff going on now?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14452496
I'm going to leave the link up but its actually not that informative. Basically a gentleman of less than reputable standing supposedly shot at a policeman who then shot back and killed him. Some people don't like how the police handled things afterwards, they didn't talk to the family of the deceased and did some other things that I haven't read about in detail. People then held a peaceful protest to show their displeasure as a result of the Police's conduct. My guess is some thugs then saw this as a great excuse to get violent.
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Post » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:17 am

Middle East, Europe, whose next? I say it'll end up here in the US next.

I hope not.

It's terrible, my condolences to anyone on the forums who's families have lost members, livelihoods, homes, or have been injured because of the barbaric actions of others. Demonstrations are one thing, but throwing bricks, burning buildings,assualting each other, attacking firemen and policemen, and taking advantage of the situation to loot and pillage is disgraceful.
People were warned to stay inside multiple times. When it gets to the point that police cannot control the mayhem, and constituents are made prisoners in their own home by bands of lawless thugs, it is time to bring the armed forces in with tear gas, water cannons, and whatever other non lethal means the British find acceptable.
Here in the US, if martial law is established and you violate it, you run a seriously high risk of being shot.
Many insurers will not cover loss of habitiat or property due to civil disobedience or rioting here, I don't know how it goes in the UK.
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Post » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:34 am

shooting the rioters will just cause more problems, innocent people are there too, if you get caught between the police and the riots, and got shoot, guess who will be the responsible?

If they evacuate all the people not involved in the riots, then yeah, killing spree, but if not, no thanks, just digging up more deeper from both sides
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