It would be a huge disservice for Bethesda to have put out Shivering Isles just to say, "Well, this didn't happen." or, "It was some nameless npc, not the Champion of Cyrodiil." Letting people get invested in a story just to rip it away from them is a terrible decision.

So much so in fact that it'd be a bad business move. I'd definitely think twice about purchasing future expansions.

"Absence of proof, is not proof of absence."

It would be a huge disservice for Bethesda to have put out Shivering Isles just to say, "Well, this didn't happen." or, "It was some nameless npc, not the Champion of Cyrodiil." Letting people get invested in a story just to rip it away from them is a terrible decision.

So much so in fact that it'd be a bad business move. I'd definitely think twice about purchasing future expansions.



It most certainly doesn't matter what you, or I, or she did with their specific characters. Story is story and continuity is continuity. If it isn't kept, the story falls apart.

"Absence of proof, is not proof of absence."

Continuity does't mean that you've to take every aspect of freedom in it.

Does Bethesda says that the CoC was the arch-mage?The Listener?The Gray Fox?The grand champion of arena? The master of fighter guild? An altmer? A Bosmer? An imperial? A nord? An orc? A khajiit? etc..

Continuity does't mean that you've to take every aspect of freedom in it.

Does Bethesda says that the CoC was the arch-mage?The Listener?The Gray Fox?The grand champion of arena? The master of fighter guild? An altmer? A Bosmer? An imperial? A nord? An orc? A khajiit? etc..

Hah. I was going to consider asking for proof that the Champion of Cyrodiil wasn't Sheogorath to illustrate what you said, but I kind of thought it'd go over people's heads.

Hah. I was going to consider asking for proof that the Champion of Cyrodiil wasn't Sheogorath to illustrate what you said, but I kind of thought it'd go over people's heads.




None of these are terribly important to any part of the story. But becoming a Daedric Prince?! That's HUGE. That's Tiber Septim big. Infact, that's bigger than Tiber Septim. Aedra can die - Daedra can't.

Forget it, he doesn't seem to get the point that every player's story is his/her own. Just let the thread die.

The proof is in the pudding.
The proof is in what we know about TES storytelling.
To assume anything because you want it to be true is a mistake.

Once more, you can talk about likelyhood but not about certainty.
To say anything otherwise, that would be Bethesda slapping people in the face as it would U-turn a beloved mechanic.

You know what. It doesn't matter anymore. He thinks his choice makes a difference? Let me solve that

Warp in the West

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I see your Warp in the West and raise you time travel courtesy of an Elder Scroll.