Should the Nords have enslaved the Dunmer when they came to

Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:55 pm

I'm just saying, we've had the Aldermi Dominion twice now.. It was an Altmer responsible for the Oblivion crisis (Mankar Camoran).. In recent times anyway they've cause a hell of a lot of trouble.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:15 pm

What do you mean all? If the Altmer tried to invade Blackmarsh the Elves would get their asses kicked so fast you don't even know. I mean honestly, if the Argonians can drive back Daedra with relative ease, what chance to mere(mer) mortals have?

Though I suppose the other races might have to worry about the Altmer.


Think of the combined power of all those High Elven mages.. Think what dastardly spells they could think up to affect the ecosystem there, there's so many things they could do to force the Argonians to surrender. After all even the Dunmer managed to enslave the Argonians..
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:21 am

Mankar was an Altmer in game, but the Camoran dynasty is from Valenwood. So they are probably Bosmer.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:09 am

Human and Beast-folk don't really like the idea of slavery, and was only allowed in Morrowind under Imperial rule because the Empire couldn't sufficiently defeat the Tribunal and Great Houses in battle to dictate terms to them. As Skyrim is part of the Empire and holds no special status like Morrowind did I can't see the idea of slavery flying with the Imperial City.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:13 am

Well he wasn't a Bosmer then.. Altmer can be born in Valenwood, and he was an Altmer in-game. Same as an Orc can be born in Skyrim. Does it state anywhere specifically that he was a Bosmer ?
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:38 pm

Human and Beast-folk don't really like the idea of slavery, and was only allowed in Morrowind under Imperial rule because the Empire couldn't sufficiently defeat the Tribunal and Great Houses in battle to dictate terms to them. As Skyrim is part of the Empire and holds no special status like Morrowind did I can't see the idea of slavery flying with the Imperial City.

Even Summerset didn't have slaves (aside from goblins, but even the Empire doesn't care about them) by the time the Empire arrived. It was mostly a Dunmer thing by this point.

However, Tiber Septim once sold Breton POWs into slavery.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:57 am

Think of the combined power of all those High Elven mages.. Think what dastardly spells they could think up to affect the ecosystem there, there's so many things they could do to force the Argonians to surrender. After all even the Dunmer managed to enslave the Argonians..

The Argonians are skilled in magic as well(if the games are to be used as an example, then Restoration, Alteration, and Illusion). Can the Altmer even mess up an ecosystem especially one as potent, and deadly as black marshes? As for the Dunmer enslaving the Argonians I imagine those were due to kidnappings, or backroom deals, and such.

I admit I'm unsure, but I assume when you said enslaving the other races you meant the Altmer would conquer them first. Also wouldn't the Hist Tree's do something if they thought the Altmer were a threat?
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:57 am

Didn't the Aldmer (is that the right name for them ? the native elves of Cyrodiil) enslave Cyro-Nordics ?
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:13 am


The Argonians are skilled in magic as well(if the games are to be used as an example, then Restoration, Alteration, and Illusion). Can the Altmer even mess up an ecosystem especially one as potent, and deadly as black marshes? As for the Dunmer enslaving the Argonians I imagine those were due to kidnappings, or backroom deals, and such.

I admit I'm unsure, but I assume when you said enslaving the other races you meant the Altmer would conquer them first. Also wouldn't the Hist Tree's do something if they thought the Altmer were a threat?


But I assumed the AD would be interested in using the Hist as a weapon to further their cause. I hardly imagine it's invincible, given the right amount of determination I'm sure it could be used by the AD. This for me would make Black Marsh a prime target for the AD at some point in the war.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:48 pm

Ayleids. About 4000 years ago.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:37 am

I think they probably could alter the ecosystem with magic. They're incredibly powerful in the use of the arcane arts, the Argonians may be skilled in it but they aren't a patch on the High Elves.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:44 am

Ayleids. About 4000 years ago.


Of course Ayelids. I just could not for the life of me come up with their name there.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:32 am

But I assumed the AD would be interested in using the Hist as a weapon to further their cause. I hardly imagine it's invincible, given the right amount of determination I'm sure it could be used by the AD. This for me would make Black Marsh a prime target for the AD at some point in the war.

Possibly, but how are they even going to do much damage? I mean the diseases, poisons, and wild life will destroy, or severely cripple their attempts at an invasion. Not to mention the Hist constantly buffing all the Argonians.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:32 am

I've no doubt it will be difficult, but if the AD are given time to breed and rebuff their ranks, their mage units would be very, very formiddable. I doubt even Black Marsh and the Hist could protect the Argonians. Also if they did defeat Skyrim, Cyrodiil and Hammerfell, they would be able to use these races as slaves to wittle down the Argonians. Then when they were weakened strike with fury. It's not a certainty but a real possibility the Argonians I doubt would wish to chance.. Hopefully they'd see sense and ally with Skyrim, the Empire and Hammerfell.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:42 pm

The Nords were a part of the Empire when the Dunmer came.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:54 am

Oh, they can try. Cute idea, really. Did you know we took Nord slaves to toil and die at our will as well?

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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:19 am

And now look at the mighty Dunmer. Scruffy third class "citizens" of Skyrim, existing only due to the Nords mercy. We could drive you out if we pleased (we done it in Winterhold) or wash our streets with your blood, but we are not as cruel as the Dunmer.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:48 am

You were cruel and wicked, but we are merciful and gracious. We would not think to stoop to your level. You have always been beneath us.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:19 am

And now look at the mighty Dunmer. Scruffy third class "citizens" of Skyrim, existing only due to the Nords mercy. We could drive you out if we pleased (we done it in Winterhold) or wash our streets with your blood, but we are not as cruel as the Dunmer.

Your not as cruel as our kind yet you speak of genocide?

We dont HAVE to stay in Windhelm. Matter of fact we own Solstheim now so you can keep your pitiful cold wretched "city of kings".
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:29 pm

Considering the amount of dunmer supremacists on this board, the nords totally should have enslaved the dunmer just to rub it in their faces.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:16 pm

Considering the amount of dunmer supremacists on this board, the nords totally should have enslaved the dunmer just to rub it in their faces.

DARK ELF PRIDE WORLDWIDE.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:55 am

Wow I think these guys just took the RP element of this game to a whole new level

Wood Elf FTW
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:00 pm

I said we could have commited genocide, but we are not as cruel as the Dunmer. By our mercy you live, if we so choose we could snuff you out with a reserve force. The Dunmer are nothing, they will be nothing for generations to come.


Remember what we done to your cousins the Falmer...
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:28 am

Think of the combined power of all those High Elven mages.. Think what dastardly spells they could think up to affect the ecosystem there, there's so many things they could do to force the Argonians to surrender. After all even the Dunmer managed to enslave the Argonians..

You mean that same combined power that couldn't hold off the Dremora during Oblivion Crisis? They were on the brink of being overrun and annihilated when just at the darkest hour the crisis ended with Martin's sacrifice. Then the Thalmor climbed out of whatever hole they were hiding in and claimed credit. The Argonians were holding their own, they drove the daedra into retreat and held the line until Dagon's defeat.

The Dunmer managed to capture some Argonians and use them as slaves but the vast majority of Black Marsh has always been free of outside influence. In the past the Argonians in Black Marsh were unorganized with no centeralized or united government. All of that changed during the Oblivion Crisis they united into a single organized force.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:24 am

We permit you to live on the island of Solstheim. Out of compassion we allowed you to land your ships on our land.
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