Grab a digital camera, droid, iphone, whatever and post something. Saying you are not sure what changed, but something did, helps nothing.

If the graphics did change to such an extent to cause all of these people to see a change, everyone would see the change.

Maybe you guys are playing right when you wake up and your eyes are foggy. I do not know.

That's the other one I love - "If you can't see the difference then it's your own fault." So the only people who have working eyes are the ones who agree that there's a problem? Those of us who can't tell the difference all have some kind of medical problem?

Who on satan's sweet earth ever said that swear words make you smarter? O.o

THANK YOU!! Everyone is saying something is different the visuals have been reduced. But what do they say when you ask for comparison screenshots? Nope, dont got any. Until I see those in high quality and with obvious repeatable differences.. this is just the power of suggestion.

I fail to see how requesting a screenshot of the problem is flaming.

I like how most of the people who are noticing a difference are attributing it to different parts of the game, and not the game overall, because Bethesda really went through and changed certain graphics and left everything else the same...

I dont beleive people think they just the graphics, just ajusted the graphic settings as a part as the fix for the lag.

And I understand if it was jsut a couple trolls the first day of the patch, but its more than that and I doudt that
we are all trolls that are bringing this up.

Except Bethesda has officially stated that they did not do anything to adjust the game's graphics as part of the patch. So naturally people are wanting actual visual proof that something was changed and not just people on a bandwagon shouting that the sky is falling.

Cool, glad you love it.

I can't help it if somebody else can't see something blatantly obvious to me. Just like the guys that don't see the difference in Bluray. They say the same stuff as you just said, but yet, the difference is obvious to me.


The graphics settings have been reduced and the texture size settings have been lowered in some areas as well as lighting settings.


The game looks different to me now.



If you want screenshots, uninstall the game yourself and take them. I already KNOW what the difference is and I don't care 2 shakes if you can see them or not. Just like the Emperors Clothes. Some people just can't see, even if they have good eyes.

You claim the graphics settings have changed, yet we have received communication stating no changes were made to visuals.

If you know where the differences are, why is it so hard to show us what you are talking about?

If you do not care about those who cannot see the change, it works both ways, they will not care you see a change because they do not see one. You have to provide an example to explain.

No, actually I don't. I can't help it if you don't see the difference. Its obvious to many people.


The proof thing is just stupid. You want me to uninstall my game and reload an unpatched version to take a stupid screenshot?

Get over it. If you don't see a difference then good.. keep on truckin. What does it matter to you?


Bethesda isn't going to say they had to lower the .ini settings. They are going to state things in such a way that can be taken in such a way as to make people think whatever they want. It's how they work. They haven't even admitted that there is this memory load problem after three entire game launches with it.

I'm done with these stupid threads. I know what I see. I don't care what you see or don''t see... cause it doesn't matter. Bethesda isn't going to change it back, so it's a done deal. We have to just live with it. Just like the lag.

The only change I've noticed is the texture of snow on rocks looks much more blocky. other than that the graphics are the same.

You do not have to re-install the game at all. Post a screenshot of what you are seeing right now, and provide a description. At that point it is not hard to me to go into game and see if I can see the same issue.

Instead of posting a screenshot, all everyone is doing is talking around the "issue" without providing any information.

It does matter, because I MAY be experiencing the same issues and I just do not realize it. If there were some kind of problem, I would like to be informed about it, however I cannot simply take any of these posts at thier word because so much speculation is going on with absolutely no visual reference.

If you do not care, than it is not an issue, and does not need to be addressed.

Honestly don't really care. My framerates are improved, the lag is merely an annoyance. The game still looks great to me. If they dropped some of the visuals to fix something else, so be it.

So, your game should look beautiful. And it should also work without lag. And in order to get the game to play without lag, they turn down the beautiful. You are ok with that solution, even if it actually doesn't fix anything?

I would much rather have bethesda spend some time and effort and find the memory leak in the first place and use the PS3 to full advantage, instead of a hack-job to get it running

I still love the game. I will just wait until the lag gets bad before I decide about installing 1.02 or going to a SSD.

The SSD seems like the better fix, honestly

Since the update there is a noticelable moiré pattern when you look at the lighting on people and walls. Often the pattern is more noticeable when the light flickers.

First off I want to say that I am in love with this game. That being said the many people that have posted here about visual changes are(according to my eyeballs) correct.
And I will be glad to take some pictures of some of the many things I have noticed. Whether you will be able to tell from the pictures or not,
it will be no more proof of changes one way or the other, just like the video posted earlier. Getting the pictures of shadow problems will be very easy...
all I will have to do is find the nearest npc and look at the stack of Tetris blocks that is their shadow.

Will post pics later. Kids are still up.

So anyone having graphic problems care to do this? I really want to know what all of the fuss is about.

Whoever is saying that stuff about the tables in the Jarl of Whiteruns palace having no food on them after the patch needs a better memory. I'm playing the game right now, I do not have the patch installed, and there is no food on his tables, either of them. So, no, this is not an effect of the patch. Always been that way.

Not everyone has a trained eye, speaking from 40 years of experience and hundreds of hours in the darkroom, digital, film, video, you might have to be a visual artist or have a really trained eye. I look at everything I see in a different light. Does your eye work better than 720P? Does it create art? Im VERY critical and have done an incredible amout of time in review of others work, graded, documented, taught.This game is a beautiful piece of work, its changed ,ever so slight,but changed. As for the rest of my reply I apologise, it was off topic.Its in the eye of the beholder. Nothing to break the game or to file a class action over.

Yes, this is the most noticable changes. Mostly due to lowered shadow quality setting I'm guessing.

Interesting because my Skyrim dosnt have graphic changes.... Maybe some people have a "Special graphic edition" of the game ))

i lol'd.....

all in all the lag is fixed you should be happy .....the lag was the game breaker for me

Maybe it is for you, but not for me. At first it seemed to be improved quite strong, but it turns out, that the more I explore (reseted ares get effected again) the more the result seems to converge to the status before. The problem is definitely not fixed! (Btw. Bethesda didn't mentioned it to be fixed, just to be improved!)

I was having the jagged edges problem on my 360 from day on im playing on a 58" plasma. i found that by switching the setting in my xbox to display the game in 1360x763(or something like that cant remember exact numbers) the game looks 10 times better no jagged edges i dont know if this will work with the ps3 tho

From what i can figure its because the game is made in 720 and the consoles upscale/stretch it to 1080

dont quote me on this i think i read that somewhere