I'm curious, why do all the whine threads about lost 'complexity' seem to gloss over perks?

Oblivion, and certainly Morrowind didn't have anything like this, in Oblivion you got what you got at x level of the skill and that was that, Morrowind even simpler.

So yes they cut off little used stats, but the perks add a whole new element that you people who claim "dumbing down" seem to completely ignore.

The one thing I miss from Morrowind was much greater ability to visually customize your character, other than that I don't get what you guys are smoking. I'm replaying Morrowind right now and it is quite sterile, boring, and even far less relevant as a modern role playing game than Skyrim is. You miss little things here and there, but doing a side by side playthrough on each will really show you how far things have come...and clue you in to the things that really ARE annoying, like reliance on quest markers instead of the journal.

Perks might make up for it... if they weren't awkwardly incremental, terribly organised, overpowered, unbalanced or useless, and nonsensical.

That is when I realized we would never see the same kind of elderscrolls game. The lead designer changed and so did the direction the series was headed. Todd Howard puts out a pretty game, but the vision of what an elderscrolls game should look like was lost when he took over.

...Give me back spell creation, and I'll be content. There's console commands to bring back acrobatics and the speed attribute. I'm sure mods will bring back degradation and remove the auto health regen. Just bring back SC.

Health regen has no impact on gameplay whatsoever, even if it didn't exist you could simply use the wait function or sleep to instantly get your health back. Degradation is not realistic because of the fact that it doesn't apply to your enemys and also the fact that using a repair hammer on items while midstream in a dungeon is NOT realistic. You need a forge and resources to repair weapons and armor, you can't repair them on the fly.

I miss acrobatics because I use to play monk characters, if they bring back the hand to hand skill (which I think they will in a DLC) then I assume they will also bring back a form of acrobatics or speed. But lets be honest here, all speed and arobatics did was make it easier to circumvent the AI, nothing more.

That is when I realized we would never see the same kind of elderscrolls game. The lead designer changed and so did the direction the series was headed. Todd Howard puts out a pretty game, but the vision of what an elderscrolls game should look like was lost when he took over.

Look at all these morons talking about how "easy" morrowind a such were to "break" and completely missing the other points the OP mentioned.

Less armor pieces, gutted attributes, cut spellmaking, snipped the arena, trashed first person horse riding, cities are getting smaller, questlines are getting shorter, the coding in general is still embarrassing, skills continue to dwindle, and the list sadly goes on...

This series future is very questionable at this rate. It'll be nothing more then an action game if this continues. Skyrim is as shallow a RPG as you can get. Go back to the drawing board Bethesda. Save this once cherished franchise.

On the bright side, we have Health, Magicka, and Stamina to define our characters!

Yes, it does have an impact on my game play. Yes degradation applied to enemies. Daggerfall degradation was the best anyway, although Ive proposed a new degradation system that would be awesome and doesn't revolve around repair hammers.

How does it have an impact on your gameplay? Even in Morrowind, when you took damage all you had to do was hit the sleep button and you could heal it all up even faster than it takes to regen health in Skyrim. Its the same [censored] thing.

Degradation is something I would support if it were done at a more realistic level, something that wouldn't break my immersion the way it did in previous games. Nothing is more unimmersive than being able to repair your equipment while you're in the middle of a dungeon and while only using a repair hammer to do it.

Im not against the idea of degradation but i'm against how it was implemented. It just didn't make any rational sense.

Spellmaking was a gimmick.

Spellmaking was a gimmick, quests were bland, huge cities in Skyrim is nonsensical.

LOL, no. Only for the unimaginative and uncreative was SC a 'gimmick'.

Oh, so now I put a paralysis effect on my shock spell. Oh okay. Or combine water breathing with swift swim. Gee, art like this should be on a museum!

Oh, so now I put a paralysis effect on my shock spell. Oh okay. Or combine water breathing with swift swim. Gee, art like this should be on a museum!

So then you enjoy using the same 5 spells over and over again?

Spellmaking was a gimmick, quests were bland, huge cities in Skyrim is nonsensical.

Which proves my point, no imagination or creativity on your end.

So then you enjoy using the same 5 spells over and over again?

It's true the game lost some degree of complexity (i'd call it complication myself) in terms of the "planning", but in terms of execution it gained in some areas. For instance the high tree Melee skills combined with shouts allows for tactical choices that the other two games couldn't even approach.

There's not enough keybinds available for the spells I use regularly in Skyrim. Try again.