Too much was cut. Staples of the series are gone. At least mods will finish the game Beth started.

Because what we have is ABSOLUTELY AWESOME! Even if it does have a few dings in it.

Money talks, and Skyrim is selling very well. So complaining that the next game should go back to it's Daggerfall roots, isn't going to fly. Why should Bethesda fix what is working, because a few people on a message board just wants Morrowind 2?

Well there are elements in Skyrim that is far from good looking at it as a RPG.

Few dialogue options - The game would have been better if the player was given more choices in dialogues, like they could decide to end a quest in a different way by lying to a person who gave them the quest if they had high enough speech, of course there would be a chance that the person found out of this and then caused problems and kept giving the player a bad reputation.

No real consequence system - You can literally take items from a shop, or steal all the items the shop owner have and sell them back to him without him recognizing them. Some items are even marked "steal" which makes it easy to pick out the ones that you can take and sell back without any risk of getting caught.

No reputation system - Or at very best it is bugged badly... Once you become a guild leader in a faction they don't really seem to recognize you, you are still Brynjolf's newest protege even tho you really are the guild master. By stealing and killing as long as the last witness dies you risk nothing, there is no system to pick up the player as a good or bad person.

These are 3 things Skyrim do lack to become a really good RPG game, I do enjoy the game immensly, but it is not a perfect RPG game. It's imo a really good game, it has decent RPG possibilities, but it does lack some things that would take the rpg elements from decent to frigging awesome.

I hope the expansion or similar will add some of the features the game now is lacking, or that the next game brings the focus a bit back on some RPG elements. However the new skill and perk system is imo finally a good system that allows me to crate a unique person.

that's because you're a friend of the shopkeeper
they don't explicitly tell you when this happens but it's usually if you do quests for them I think

and besides the items that aren't considered stolen is pretty much only potatoes and [censored]

I for one support this thread. I don't hate Skyrim, but Skyrim is severely lacking in many areas including magic, factions, dialogue options, companion interactions, birthsigns, and an attribute system. I don't like features being progressively stripped from the series, so I hope others post their distaste for cut features in the hopes the developers will stop cutting and/or add more features back.

I always found it weird that the majority of fan boys and blind defenders of the ES series are newbs, not vets, unlike what you would find with other Titles/series. Just an observation.

The GTA fan base is the same way. The veterans of the series are often the only ones criticizing the cut content and poor design choices that have appeared after San Andreas.

My favorite part about the Bethesda Defense League is that they tell anyone who dares criticize the game to leave the forums. You would think that people were insulting their honor or something, judging by how defensive they get.

The GTA fan base is the same way. The veterans of the series are often the only ones criticizing the cut content and poor design choices that have appeared after San Andreas.

My favorite part about the Bethesda Defense League is that they tell anyone who dares criticize the game to leave the forums. You would think that people were insulting their honor or something, judging by how defensive they get.

Is this really necessary? This topic has been discussed to the point of exhaustion.

No one is going to change their mind at this point. If you really hate the game, cant't you just move on with your life?

The proper course of action to take upon thy honor being insulted is to challenge thy opponent to duel.

Haven't you heard? Duels, as in, a count of two, is too spreadsheety. We are trying to put the ignorance back into ignorance.

You have insulted my honor! If proposed methods were not too spreadsheety, you not labeled an essential character, or if I were given an opposing dialogue option I would be defending it!

It wouldn't be so bad if games as ambitious as the ES were a dime a dozen. But they're not. Its basically the last and only of its kind. Of all the games that can be sacrificed to the unreceptive demographics, ES should have been the last.



Lack of quest markers made this unreadable to me. Hold my hand harder next time. Also, regenerate my health for me.

That's too much to remember. Simplify it and put it in a pure quest log rather than a journal, cut down the number of directions so they can look better and we can get more posts on screen, and don't forget to make sure everything is always tuned to my level with no consequences to me not directly doing as told.

I have come to the conclusion that a number of the people who are relentlessly positive about Skyrim are very probably suffering from really devoted fan delusions.

You won.

Eh... it's not simple enough for me to understand, but it's getting there. With your sixth post, try to cut out a bit more dialogue.

Eh... it's not simple enough for me to understand, but it's getting there. With your sixth post, try to cut out a bit more dialogue.