Not.

Ian forever! Ian Supremacy!

Nope, they are overused.

Fallout- You can't beat the game easily without running into the BoS
Fallout 2- Avoidable, but they still play a role in the series
Fallout:Tactics- You play as an initiate, the whole bloody game is about the BoS
The Burned Game- BoS play a key role in it.
Fallout 3- Railroads you into helping them
Fallout:New Vegas- No faction can avoid them despite Obsidian saying you wouldn't have to run into them in the game.

They ARE overused. For once it would be nice to find a way to use Power Armor WITHOUT the freaking Brotherhood. In Fallout and Fallout 2 it had repair manuals and instruction books, so we could just find and read one of those. Iconic implies it's a key part of the series. It isn't, it's the cash cow of the series. I'd rather the BoS just die off like the idiots they are.

Edit: GABRIEL HOW COULD YOU FORGET LIEUTENANT IN YOUR LIST?!?!

Marcus was soffft. even when i killed Keene he was like " oh well, it was bound to happen." he has no spine.

I wasn't talking about Marcus in New Vegas.

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They ARE overused. For once it would be nice to find a way to use Power Armor WITHOUT the freaking Brotherhood.

i thought u could get PA without the BOS in New Vegas.

hehe i agree Ian was a crazy beep, comes in a clouse secound in my opinion

my bad. haven't playing nething b4 FO3 so maybe i should stop posting so much lol.

yep you can use PA in NV without BoS help, the old Enclave provides you the training if you can't stand the BoS

You can, but it isn't exactly a bonified way of getting it. If you have Legion accepted or above, if Arcade dies while in the wastes, etc. The BoS are pretty much the only solid way of getting it.

Edit: on top of that, you don't get access to PA training by doing Arcades quest until about 2/3rds through the main questline.

Don't let the dinosaurs scare you. I played FO2, but not FO1 yet. FO3 is better than 2 and NV, imo. Why you think I have the requiem for the capital wasteland mod? I get bored to tears in the mojave after awhile.

i thought so. when i played through the 5 time i just did Veronicas quest and avoided the collar bomb. their base is really anyoing/suffocating to be in though. makes me dread their questline everytime.

Yep. And if you kill him McNamara isnt pleased and if you cant pass the speech check the BoS will attack you.

on this, my 7th playthrough i'm trying to get through as much as possible without touching the main quest... level 22, still haven't been to the strip. i get what your saying though they make it pretty much impossible NOT to interact with BOS.

The experience i had playing FO3 was legendary. i had never played a fallout game before, nor knew anything about it. bought it on 360 cause i had extra money, and when i stepped out of that vault, i was blown away. since then i haven't been able to focus on another game. i started portal 2, duke nukem... then stopped after 30 minutes and poped in NV. there's nothing else like it to me. i try to talk to my friends about it, get them into it but alll they play is cod and halo. i just don't get it man. i just don't

I know what you mean, I started in FO3 as well. Fell in love since day one. Was awesome, I remember my first random encounter was at the abandoned( I use the term loosely) Super market. Got me the Alien Blaster XD BOS is awesome I would much rather have them vs NCR than another new faction. That or BOS and NCR vs Slavers XD

The only BOS i hate is the ones in NV they are cowards who are afraid to fight and they can't do anything even though you help them out.
just wondering are they suppose to have patrols outside there base once you do all there quest or is it a bug?

the alien blaster was the most bad-ass weapon ever. 1 shot headshot kills on deathclaws..and i know that it's running in NV with the Wild Wastelander perk, but it doesn't feel as strong. does anyone know if they altered the dps/dam for NV?

I put that away when I got the http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Firelance and the Pyromaniac perk.

They're the complete opposite of cowards, willing to fight and die for what they believe in; God forbid that they are a little [censored] cautious after almost being killed.

Actually the Lyons BOS had T-51b armor, but after their long trek it was falling into disrepair. They had to settle for the older, more numerous and easier to repair T-45d's because their armor was broken and also they needed it to outfit new recruits they took on. They also have a mixture of pure humans and wastelanders.

Adding to the Enclave's point, most of them actually wanted to start going on patrol again but the Elder wouldnt allow it for understandable reasons. And Head Paladin Hardin wanted to try to take back Helios One from the NCR and McNamara was "trying to dissuade him" from doing so. Trying to? He's the Elder. Why didnt he just veto that move?

The whole point about the BOS seems to be caution. When they find new technology they find it's limits and are careful with it, they rarely reveal themselves to the public and they hide away in bunkers most of the time doing research and training. But god help you if you attack them, they're docile around those without high tech gadgets to hassle them for, but if you try to attack them you will wind up as a pile of ash on the floor. Of course this caution is taken because they are few in number and can be swarmed by NCR and Legion.

If it's in Chicago does that mean my weapons cash in my basemant is going to be there? If so then I guess it's a good thing I just bought a bunch of those glass bottles of Coke, woot 48 bottle caps to start out my game!!!!

Apparently the Lyons BOS was supposed to have patrols as well but you only see Paladin Hoss' (Falls Church) and Lyons Pride (Chevy Chase). Aside from some stationed near the White House, GNR, Taft tunnel, and the Washington Monument. You only really ever see the Outcasts patroling.

The Library also.