I lean more towards the BoS.
Yea, I murdered them at first, but felt bad, reloaded and joined them. Power armor is worth it, plus the Gauss Rifles.

Double post.

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Personally? NCR has the right idea, just needs a kick in the pants. Otherwise I believe they have what's needed to get an organized society going once more in the wasteland. Sure, they're pushy, over extended, and tend to be a bit imperialistic, however, they do allow freedoms within their borders that you can't really afford anywhere else.

Now why NOT the others? (FYI, this is my opinion. Apologies if it offends anyone.)
Caesar's Legion - Sorry, I can never support a society that works on slavery. In my ethics and in my gutt, it is wrong, no matter how you angle it. What's that phrase? "The pathway to hell is paved with good intentions".

Robert House - If you ever played Bioshock, I feel like I was talking to Andrew Ryan. It's an empire built on greed and self interest. True, it's amiable to control and bring together a strong a strong community, but you're isolating yourself from the world and others, only intending to force or tempt them to your way and only your way, all others can rot. In a time where fellow man needs to help each other, this is not what we need.

Boomers - Yeah, I empathize with their issues and understand why they did this, however again, isolating yourself is not the answer. In their case they became arrogant and ignorant, and cared only for what they thought. I admire their dream, but I don't admire their means.

Brotherhood of Steel - For the most part, BoS keeps rubbing me the wrong way. I understand they want to keep people from making the same mistakes they made to make the world as it is now, but the means to this end are unacceptable. Besides, the whole knighthood drift their pulling puts me off. Save the honor, chivalry, and courage for those who these terms are meant for ... those who help their fellow man. As far as I care, they're just guys in powersuits gathering technology to stop the bomb from dropping again. As far as humanity is concerned, they could just die and rot, letting them be the only people on earth. Wrong answer. (I admit, there's a few good apples among them, if the BoS in the east coast had proven anything. More like THOSE guys, and I may change my mind.)

Followers of the Apocalypse - If you ask me, they get a bad rap from what Caesar did and from government officials. I'll give them my support as people who look to helping what's left of humanity, restoring our cultivating skills, and restoring some semblance of humanity in a post-apocalyptic world. My only issue with them is while I admire what they do, they're not quite what I would see to govern a nation or a region. Leave them to do what they do best, but I don't think they have what it takes to lead.

Great Khans - Meh, feels to me like a biker gang with a historic bent. They're wild and violent most of the time, it's their culture. Not something I would support, but not something I would look into for it's cultural aspect.

Kings - It's a gang, mostly benevolent gang, but still a gang. They have my support in what they do most of the time, but their insisted issues with NCR seem to break that image. I was a little disappointed, now knowing what the Kings are an do.

Powder Gangers - Convicts. Thugs. Criminals. What's to support? Most of them were near release too for their time. Way to blow your chance at true freedom guys.

Bright Brotherhood - Uh, okay, another cult ... but at least it's not another Doomsday Cult. I'll give them credit to their dedication to their cause, and hey, who am I to judge their faiths? Seem harmless enough.

Gun Runners - Profiteers. Honest and independent, but profiteers. But, hey, someone's gotta make the iron, no?

Jackals - Cannon fodder. Criminal, wild, cannon fodder.

State of Utolbitha - I state what I said when I first heard of it ... "WTF?"

Crimson Caravan - Again, profiteers. A necessity, though, the trade has benefited many out in the wasteland.

White Glove Society - No comment.

Omerta - Gangsters and mobsters, in a sense, scum.

Chairmen - Part of house's little ring. Same as I said for house, however, perhaps eluding to dogs on a leash... wild dogs.

Van Graffs - Corperation with an agenda and a bad ethic code. Shame they're the best energy weapon vendors.

Vipers - See Jackals.

Augustus didn't dissolve the Republic, he modified it so that he could hold the full power and authority of a King while seeming to be a elected official. Not only did he (like most all Romans) see being adored as a "God-King" to be effete and "gay"...not to mention unnecessary as his power was so great there was no need to flaunt it...it was extremely dangerous as Caesar found out when Senators assassinated him because they feared he was on the verge of proclaiming himself King.

As as the NCR, most of them are decent people but thier leaders back in Shady Sands are corrupt and incompetent fools. If they could put thier house in order politically, they would be the best choice (next to the rule of Me) as they are the most inclusive and have the resources to make things better for everyone.

Gun Runners. Wish they had a bigger role, the potential is there for them to give you some quests. The Followers are a close second.

Nice.

All-in-all, I'd say NCR. They're bloated, they're bureaucratic, they're slightly whiny and over-reliant on others, and yet they're also struggling to rebuild democracy throughout the wasteland, with [censored] like elections and research departments. BoS have become to insular for my tastes.

So sure, they're imperfect, but they're my buddies.

The NCR. If you want to play a good karma character, the game is designed to kind of lead the players to side with them. Plus it doesn't feel right to side against the military.

NCR as they seem to have the most quests.

The Do Whatever Cass Wants faction?

Oh, okay then, I'm sure if you were on the receiving end of such treatment you would not be so supportive of that view. You make it seem like it's impossible to increase population growth and form a stable society without brutality, when it's not.

I would hate to be around you if I were ever to find myself in some post-apocalyptic scenario. :whistling:

Followers seem to be the most helpful, their quasi-religious nature annoys me though. They also don't have to defend anything militarily, which makes it easier for them to appear "nice", unlike the NCR.

Depends on how far civilization has fallen.



If you are one of the frail 'accidental' survivors with no redeeming skills to help rebuild civilization other than posting on message boards, you are probably right. Fresh meat is going to be hard to come by.

While my karma always leans towards good I tend to play both sides of the fence for as long as possible. The challenge is trying not to slip and impale myself. B)

True enough, but he did for all intents and purposes. I was trying to keep it simple.

And while Augustus may have called him self “first among equals”, he did have Caesar (Julius) deified and inscribed his own monuments with “son of god”.

Anyway, good lookin out man. "Death to Tyrants!"

With my current character, it's the followers of the appocolypse, mainly because I'm trying to learn more about them, my first character was for the NCR, but purely as a roleplay, the only ones I can say I really like are the great khans, I just wish there was more interaction with them.

The Followers of the Apocolypse hands down.

They help everyone regardless of what their situation is.

For me its gotta be the Brotherhood Of Steel.

Hard to pick just one...

I like to consider myself in promotion of the ideals of freedom and independence, like the Kings. I also appreciate the strength and history of the Khans. I always feel at home in a Brotherhood compound (I've sided with them since Fallout 1), and the Boomers make me feel pretty welcome, too. I appreciate the intensity of the Van Graffs, who know how to run a business in a post-apocalyptic world...loyalty is rewarded, treachery is punishable by death, and whatnot.

The only factions I strictly oppose, for ideological reasons, are the NCR, Legion, and Enclave...essentially, any group interested in claiming the wasteland in it's name.

Where is the option for Enclave Yes, they are in the game.

I am gonna go with 'Boomers'. They blow up and fly [censored], thats good enough for me. Followers of the Apocalypse are nice people too. The only factions I hate in this game are Caesar's Legion and all those petty gangbangers like the Fiends. I also enjoy making the Powder Gangers my [censored].

If I had to pick one faction to die in this game its those White Glove people. I hate every single one of their masked faces.

There is no option for Enclave!

The Legion.

^^^^^

And Followers of the Apocalypse.

Enclave Remnants are cool people. Is that a faction even if it has 7 members? I pick them, can't wait for them to drop in at Hoover.