I still don't think that is even in the same city as the pure cheesiness possible of a simple short calm humanoid spell in Morrowind.

So yes, I guess if I looked at it that one I would put it with "always has been easily obtained divinity within TES games".

I was given skyrim as a gift from a friend, however since I started playing it I honestly wouldn't pay for the game base on the fact that theirs way to many flaws in the game. We shouldn't have to depend on mods to fix it. It's gamesas's responsiblity to provide stable software for the consumers, and they failed.

Everytime I play skyrim I feel like I'm a beta tester, and not the actual consumer.

That`s a very strange answer. If you have Steam it`s in your face, just like I told you. Nothing `snarky` about it.

How can you not know what Steam is? It`s not logical. It has to install with your game, it starts up when you start it up, etc, etc....

Maybe there`s a non Steam version no one`s told me about?

Maybe he plays it on a console. Steam is just for PC copies of the game.

Yes, the PC version with mods like I always do. The unmodded game is good already, but just like Oblivion it needs modding to become great.

Damn. I forgot about that completely! That`s my first cross platform error.

Good point.

The concept of "choosing" character progression limits completely destroys progression itself. If I play to the best of my abilities, and I derive enjoyment fromrising to a challenge, then it is a huge flaw to have a system which allows me to "break" combat so easily without even exploiting. I acknowledged that this has always been a part of TES games, I don't know why you chose to repeat that to me- that doesn't mean it's not a flaw. Which, as we circle back around, is why it's perfectly reasonable to judge the game based on that, and not say "oh that's just the player's fault for choosing . . ."

A game is a system with a set of rules, if one is forced to cripple one's performance/choices to maintain game balance, the game ceases to be entertaining, as this effectively means character progression must halt. Yes, this is an RPG, but RPGs have also always involved character development as a core feature, alongside the immersion of roleplaying and whatnot.

Despite its flaws, its still worth the money. I have sunk 200 hours into the game easily, there are few forms of entertainment out there that will provide me 200 hours of entertainment at my finger tip for 60 bucks.

Even if Skyrim is not as good as i hoped. (TES game gets less complex each time) I would have buy it anyway, because, even if it is not as good as Morrowind or Daggerfall in some ways, it is still a great game.

431 hours of gameplay, not even done half of the game, well, it seems it earned its 60€ quite well.

And i can tell you i plan to buy TES6 TES7 etc...

Would definitely buy it. Skyrim (in terms of artwork) is better than I could hope. All the flaws and even UI fade before the awesomeness of the scenery, nature details and architecture.

Yes. The few things to go wrong have been minor irritations in an otherwise superb game. Perhaps my reflex of keeping multiple saves and saving every few minutes has minimised issues, but I think not. Yes, a couple of quests are a bit twitchy, but after 240 odd hours I think I'm still happy.

No. Not at full price anyway.

Are you really saying if the CK were to never be released you seriously would never have wanted to play the game?

Seconded.

Yes, yes I would.

Would've probably waited for CK to come out

Definitely, i consider Skyrim the best gaming purchase i ever made. Before that it was Oblivion which i got for about 17 bucks at a local game store, and put about 250 hours on it over the last year and half. I've put that much time into Skyrim and its only been 2 months.

Absolutely.

Oblivion on the other hand... The only reason I would buy it is to play Nehrim.

Yes ,even after 360 hours. Gizmo I like your av its the best one I've seen in a while.

Absolutely. Even though there are flaws and things that I really don't like, it's still given me way more entertainment than most games. I'd even still buy it at the opening price (never CE though - glad I passed on that one).

Yes. What kind of question is this?

Here's another question. My better half bought it for me as a birthday present. If she had known how much I would play it, and how much the kids and I talk about the bloody game, would she still have bought it?

I would have waited for the price drop that happened in December instead of preordering and paying the full price for it.

Yes I would have bought Skyrim knowing it would be bugged to hell because I got over the plethora of possible bugs in a game when I picked up Oblivion the first time. It had way more bugs that I noticed than Skyrim.

Yes. Considering the milleage and fun I'm getting out of it, its easily the best game I bought sinds Deus Ex. And all this without mods or CK.

Got L.A. Noire for christmas and while the story is great the gameplay is kinda poor. I've dropped it in favour of Skyrim within a few hours (in total). I play on PC however so that may be the problem.
Als got the new Batman game but I haven't even installed it yet. Skyrim is grabbing all my attention.