Really? Where did you get that from? The story is very vague and poorly explained imo...




I had the same, I struck laurentius in the depths, had to pay 150,000 for absolution. As I was role-playing a pure good knight this was a curse to my game, but I really didn't want to pay 150K souls. So I decided to save roleplaying for Skyrim instead

Well, the games A.I. just made the decision for me. While trying to decide what to do she was striking with her fists doing practically no damage, and for literally no reason at all she jumped off the cliff into the lava. I heard the sound of receiving souls, and she was no more. *sigh.*

That's a shame, she drops 7 Humanity Points. If you can't reach her body that really is a waste.

It would have been better to kill her instead, when you had the chance.

I just used the 'ole quit and reload trick. Her stuff was where she would normally sit at. Not a total waste, I guess. :unsure:

You're lucky then. Sometimes AI reacts really stupid in this game, IRC in DeS hitting an NPC would not instantly make them aggressive towards you.

Also so far as i've seen ''sin'' in this game only affects your chance of being invaded by members of the Blade of the Darkmoon covenant. I don't mind an invasion every now and then...

Yeah, sorry for not being up 3 AM Crashdown :wink_smile:


@LOD: The story is indeed very vague, but if you watch the first cutscene in the game, they talk about the lords and the Furtive Pygmy "so easily forgotten", because that lord actually didn't do anything during the fight, because it was you. You were taken to the undead asylum, a prison in the north because no-one knew you were a lord. That's all fan-speculation though. It might be that this furtive pygmy that is never seen in the entire game, sin't you after all, but because he isn't met at a single point in the game it could very well be you.

I can't decide if I should level to SL 60 and play as the grim reaper gravelord at that level with a chaos or fire weapon, or go up to sl 90-100 and be a grim reaper with a fully base upgraded great scythe (B rating on Dex) and buff it with poison. (this way, 4 hits on the enemy causes them to both bleed and have poison on them, losing way about 6-7 HP per second.

Interesting...this theory might actually be true. Now that you say it, the Furtive Pygmy was mentioned in that cutscene. But because he is so easily forgotten, I forgot.

I would go with .

That is awesome, would make your character pretty unique. Out of interest, how many times have you finished the game already?

I'm on ng++ and on ng+ and on ng with three different characters, so I guess I've beaten the game a total of 3 times. But right now, I don't even plan on beating the game another time. As for the toxic, there doesn't seem to be a toxic buss: only poison. Much weaker. Should I still go higher level? Imo, my combat-effectiveness will be severely crippled.

What weapons are cursed ? I want to fight ghosts withpout relying on curses. Becuase if they wear off... Not fun.

Your first option, a level 60 grim reaper gravelord with a fire or chaos weapon could be a killing machine as well. Poison is too weak, if you can't buff it with toxic. That way yes I think your combat-effectiveness will indeed be severely crippled.





Don't bother to visit the ruins of new Londo at all if you haven't reached the Lordvessel yet.

:bowdown:

Just wondering, If i were to beat Ornstein and smough, How much of the game is left? just doing the main plotline stuff.
In terms of bosses. I know theres (4 ?) lords to beat at least, but much more before/after ?

There's still pretty much to be done. Basically after those guys it's your goal to go after those 4 lords, then there is still the final boss of the game and some levels before that as well.

If you count the lords + endgame boss and some other which will come as well you still have 6-7 boss-fights to go.

Oh and if you haven't already:

Ok, thanks.
And no, not been to the hollow yet. Will check it sometime

The three cursed weapons I know about are all terrible. The ghost blade is a small dagger, which is extremely rare to drop from the banshee ghosts in new londo ruin. The jagged ghost blade is a falchion/scimitar type weapon with, again, terrible damage. There's also the cursed artorias greatsword that requires a lot of stat investment to use. I'd say, don't go with cursed weapons. It's a better plan to actually get the real curse on you than fight the ghosts with some toys (that all the cursed weapon I mentioned earlier are).

I'd suggest getting enough souls to buy 4 curses from undead merchant in the shortcut between firelink shrine and depths (accessible from the depths).

Amazing how some stuff in this game can give you so much hassle sometimes, and then none at all at other times.

Finally managed to kill ornstien and Smough solo after several solo and coop failures.
It was my first time playing for the day, and was actually planning on leaving to go to a diffrent area. But i went for one more shot at them.

Killed them solo absolutely no hassle at all. Just ran around the room in circles to kill ornstein first, then just kited smough around a pillar when it was only him left.
Honestly dont know how i was struggling before, considering thats been the tactic everytime.

Now off to Londo ruins. Got it unflooded so far. Think im at the bosses bit, big tower with lots of stairs going down and a big drop at the bottom :\
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oh, and ghosts are pretty annoying when they are up above or inside a wall and you dont see or cant hit them

Agree 100%. Was playing yesterday w/ a new character talking to Petrus in firelink while Rhea and clerics were there. Put controller down on my bed. R2 gets pressed I strike pertus and they all go hostile.

Last time Rhea went hostile I paid for absolution w/ no effect. She was still hostile.

I would LOVE a yield option.

But you are Dark Souls at this stage.

@Outlander
Thanks and I should be okay at SL 60.I just hope it doesn't matter that I don't have any super weapons yet.I'm still using longsword+10 and the lightning spear from Sen's fortress.My stats are not making a huge difference on that longsword yet.I have not been back on since last night but those flying women/crows took some time to kill.

Were you chewing through them fast?
What SL were you when you got there?

Not sure if we covered this already, but is the lag worse in Dark Souls multiplayer?

Well partially this is because you no longer play with players close to you: you might be playing with austrailians and japanese while you live in europe, for example. In demon's souls, you only had this problem if someone had bought a different version of the game than their region normally sells.

All-in-all, I'd say Dark Souls has less lag than demon's souls in multiplayer.

Right, so i thought Ornstein and Smough were bad, due to the fact there were 2 of them.

Killed sif to get the ring, and now im at the four kings. Sif was incredibly easy despite the fact he looks pretty awesome

I had a slight suspicion about what Four Kings was gonna be,due to the name, but i didnt actually expect there to be a group of them.....

Is this the trend for the rest of the bosses, to make them hard? svcks if it is.

There you have LOD's view on the remaining lords

As for me, I think the 4 kings is the hardest of all bosses in dark souls. Partially because you can fight them as the first of the lords if you want, but also because they multiply themselves at a rate which is faster than most weapons can kill them (unless you are very late in the game or happen to have made a lightning +5 weapon or a fire +10)

Eh, i dont feel so bad then

I have a lightning spear + 3, but was using my black knights halberd for the fight. Will try and upgrade the spear some more if thats a decent weapon for the fight.
That and a fire broadsword, but think its only +2 or +3 also
Might go try some of the other Lords in the meantime.

I actually thought i was fighting Nito in New londo ruins. Turns out it was just a normal mob, but i thought it was him at first.
Looked the same as the guy in the cutscene from what i remember

A spear is probably the weakest of all weapons in the game when one-handed. If you truly want to kill them fast, two-hand your spear and just go for it.

Ok I'm going to restart my faith character again because I wasn't happy with my first build.

I'd love to hear some tips for a great faith character.

For weapons, I think I'm going w/ the crescent axe for my main. What do you think? Any other suggestions? I'd LOVE to use a hammer based weapon, but can't seem to find a good one.

I missed many miracles on my first time through.

Suggestions for must get miracles for a melee faith character? Practicality is a plus.

What exactly is the process of getting emit force? I know Onion Bro gives it to you but just unsure how.

How do ensure Rhea's survival? I've f-ed this up SOOOOO many times. I HATE petrus!!!!

Hit me with suggestions before I manage to screw up another build.

This might not be a complete tip for playing as a faith build, but here goes:

First of all, a great faith character uses miracles to heal himself outside combat and only ever uses estus flasks in combat where speed matters. As for great miracles, the wrath of god is a very good PvP tool and it's not too shabby in PvE either. Only three uses though. OP miracles in PvP would be Transquill walk of peace (or something like that, slows enemy down as if he was using the heaviest armor and weapons in the whole game with only 1 point of endurance). I got the emit force randomly from onion bro, or I didn't get it from him, I have no idea what I did to get this. All I know was that it wasn't anything special as it was my first character ever. I did talk to him before I opened the gate to sen's fortress and I also met him inside it and talked to him there. (twice both times as he seems to be deep within is thoughts the first time). I also talked to him in anor londo. No idea at which point I got emit force, I'd hit up one of the wiki's from the OP on this one.

As for keeping Rhea alive: First, save het in tombs of giant. Instantly after you get back to firelink shrine, talk to her up in the gargoyle tower. Immediantely after this, go down back to firelink and kill petrus. (without dying, reloading, quitting, disconnecting or using homeward bone to return etc, just take the elevator down and murder him there on the spot.

As for weapons, I haven't personally tested the cres axe on my faith build, but as a general rule: the bigger the better. Faith weapons have both physical and magic damage to think about. The armor system makes you want to have bigger physical damage or magical damage than your opponents armor rating. This means that using small weapons with low damage and splitting it into two separate attack types leads to a bad result. My occult winged spear +5 (50 faith) did a mere 450 damage on a backstab in PvP. That's as much as my opponents usually hit when they two-hand their weapon and hit me regulary. A claymore or a zweihandler would do the trick in terms of good damage.

As for miracles and attunement: I got my attunement up to 19, allowing me to have 5 slots. (eventually, that is, I only had 16 all the way to level 70 or something). Having the base heal miracle equip always is a good plan. 1 slot. Adding in double healing spell is really enough to never use an estus flask before reaching a bigger boss that requires estus flasks to be used mid-battle. The greater lighting spear (gained from the warriors of sunlight) is a good 10 times use miracle. Good damage, many uses. The special miracles like greater magic barrier can be equiped when you know an area uses a lot of powerful magic against you, but that's about it. And as I said before, the wrath of god can truly turn a fight. All you need to do is to fast swap a weapon into a talisman and shoot wrath of god 1 time. The opponents shield might be up and take all his stamina: follow up with another one and he takes solid damage from it. If he didn't block, free hit and opponent is knocked down. Use an estus flask if you need it before continuing fighting. The force miracle is a miracle I kept with me to use in areas where the falling to death is easy. This includes sen's fortress and demon's ruin, + new londo ruin and maybe other areas too (can't remember). Mainly for PvP, a very solid tool to knock opponents down into their death. Even if they block it, you can follow up with another one that will hit them and that will knock them down. 21 uses on this baby as well, compared to the wrath of god version that also damages.

If you want to test many different weapons (at +9 divine path of +4 occult) it can be arranged by abusing the save-system with snuggly the crow. Basically all you need to do to get a lot of white titanite chunks is to do this: A specific moss, when dropped at the next, gives you white chunks when reloading your save. You can, however, do this only 1 time per new game. That, can be exploited though: Buy 50 mosses of the type snuggly wants. Drop a moss at the nest. Reload. Don't pick up your reward yet upon reloading. Drop another moss. Now you can pick up your reward. Reload again. You'll again have a reward waiting for you. Again, do not take it up. Drop another moss. Now get your reward and reload once again. Repeat until you are out of moss.