Hearthfire - Thread #3

Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:22 pm

I think it's important that there is a solid story behind the DLC. I wouldnt be very interested in say for example they add the west of Morrowind with the city of backlight to the game and have people there give random fetch this or kill that quests in a dozen dungeons or so

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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:11 pm

All I remember is Todd saying that not all DLCs will be at the $20 price-point, which I interpreted as "don't expect the next DLC or two to be big", not "Dawnguard will be the biggest DLC we ever do."
Some people suggested that they will do a smaller DLC just to honor the Microsoft deal and then reserve the real big expansion for later and a simultaneous release. I don't think this exclusivity deal is paying well; lots of negative feedback, not to mention that you're going to loose the day 1 impulse buyers for PS3 and PC who will probably be more prone to wait for a 'gold' edition of Skyrim (especially with all the issues regarding random attacks and such) .
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:46 am

I hope the DLC whatever it is dosen't just focus on one class but something for everyone. I would like more player housing and more choies on how that house is going to look outside and in. There needs to be more on werewolves. Not the Compaion guild stuff but farrell werewolves something more like what was in Dragons Age: Oragins. I don't think well ever see this but I want the economy to be a bigger part of Skyrim. Like being able to buy things in one town/city and sale better in another. Or opening up your own shop or just buying homes and renting them to others. Buying a mine and hiring people to work it. I want Skyrim to feel like its a place you could live in and make a living while your there. These are all high hopes though. I dought we'll see them.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:57 am

I hope the DLC whatever it is dosen't just focus on one class but something for everyone. I would like more player housing and more choies on how that house is going to look outside and in. There needs to be more on werewolves. Not the Compaion guild stuff but farrell werewolves something more like what was in Dragons Age: Oragins. I don't think well ever see this but I want the economy to be a bigger part of Skyrim. Like being able to buy things in one town/city and sale better in another. Or opening up your own shop or just buying homes and renting them to others. Buying a mine and hiring people to work it. I want Skyrim to feel like its a place you could live in and make a living while your there. These are all high hopes though. I dought we'll see them.
I like your ideas on economy and business owning, people have been crying to own something of their own in an elderscrolls forever, but we never got anny
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:16 pm

I love how everyones talking about how they want the dlc to focus around magic but what about people who arnt really into magic like me?
You have dawnguard. Based around combat, you got new weapons, new armor, and horse combat was a free part of the dlc. We got squat. And you also have most of the vanilla game, which had pretty much ZERO to do with magic.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:47 pm

I find only 3 of the five magic schools are useful, I never use Illusion or alteration, I see them as useless
Alteration gives you some very good magic defenses, atronauch perk and magic resistance + 30 percent, it also has the paralysis spell, which is REALLY useful actually, then illusion is for sneaky characters, and for kicks, i mean who doesnt like making huge groups of enemies kill each other.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:05 pm

You have dawnguard. Based around combat, you got new weapons, new armor, and horse combat was a free part of the dlc. We got squat. And you also have most of the vanilla game, which had pretty much ZERO to do with magic.
that's how the Oblivion DLC came out, of course smaller, they all focused on one specific class. first it was the Fighter's stronghold, then came the Wizard tower and so forth
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:04 pm

that's how the Oblivion DLC came out, of course smaller, they all focused on one specific class. first it was the Fighter's stronghold, then came the Wizard tower and so forth
Exactly, so the next one im hopin features some new bad ass spells. I -wishi i could have gotten all the new spells in dawnguard with my sorceress, but i guess choices are choices eh? some cool new conjuration spells for the vampires and some useful offensive restoration spells for dawnguard.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:33 pm

Some people suggested that they will do a smaller DLC just to honor the Microsoft deal and then reserve the real big expansion for later and a simultaneous release. I don't think this exclusivity deal is paying well; lots of negative feedback, not to mention that you're going to loose the day 1 impulse buyers for PS3 and PC who will probably be more prone to wait for a 'gold' edition of Skyrim (especially with all the issues regarding random attacks and such) .

Oh I definitely agree that the next DLC is going to be smaller, I'm just a little baffled by people who keep saying that Beth said DG is going to be the biggest DLC Skyrim will ever see. I simply can't find a statement to that effect, and I'm beginning to wonder if the misinterpretation of that soundbite isn't at least partially to blame for both this myth, and the inflated expectations some people had for DG. :confused:

I don't buy that idea that Beth is going to intentionally hold back on the next DLC because of the exclusivity deal, though. Rather, I'd think that if they're doing a large DLC they want to give themselves as much time as possible to work on it, and probably end the wave of DLCs with a bang, so the next DLC will probably be smaller and more of a "filler".

And yeah, I'd be very interested in being a fly on the wall when they discuss the impact that the exclusivity deal may have on overall sales. I've heard a lot of PC and PS3 players say that even though it would have been a day 1 purchase, they're either going to wait for a GOTY edition or not buy it at all because it's not what they want. And while I'll buy it as soon as it's available, I can't blame PS3 and PC players who want to hold back until Beth or modders do something about the vampire attacks. I don't want them to at all personally, so I know that if there isn't a "completely get rid of vampire attacks" mod out there the first thing I'm going to do is go into the CK myself and see if I can at least temporarily neuter the bastards so they couldn't kill a Deer. And if they don't release within a week of the exclusivity deal ending(which seems like the most realistic possibility at this point), I'm wondering how many people will have just moved on. If it weren't for the fact that my internet situation will be iffy for a while in September and October, I'd probably forget about DG like I do with most DLCs thanks to GW2.

The problem, though, is that I doubt the lost purchases outweigh Microsofts..."donation". It really is a pretty anti-competitive business practice the more I think about it.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:25 pm

smaller? no no the same or bigger!
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:33 pm

I cant imagine it to be smaller, people are more than willing to spend 20-30 on a large DLC. it appears like the fans are screaming "Expansion!"
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:34 am

I love how everyones talking about how they want the dlc to focus around magic but what about people who arnt really into magic like me?
That's what the entire game is for. Us magic users were majorly shafted.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:32 pm

i AM ALL FOR CLOSE COMBAT USUALLY but I woudl like too this new expansion to give more magic stuff , the magic in skyrim is really lame , boring and unappealing , as well as quite weack... they really put few creativity in creation of spells ... Something like two worlds would have been much more fun to do ...

and anyway I want spears .....
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:17 pm

I don't even care, I just wish Bethesda would stop making those exclusivity deals, i'm on the ps3 and all I get is a vague one month later release date
I do agree even though i own Skyrim on PC, Xbox360, and PS3. My main character is on PS3. Because i had the PS3 copy of skyrim first.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:28 pm

I have a feeling that Hearthfire will add more conjuration spells(I miss my daedroth from Oblivion).
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:37 pm

I have a feeling that Hearthfire will add more conjuration spells(I miss my daedroth from Oblivion).

as if there weren't enough added in dawnguard? conjuration and restoration were the only schools with new content, I'd say the other schools need some attention in upcoming add ons.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:54 pm

as if there weren't enough added in dawnguard? conjuration and restoration were the only schools with new content, I'd say the other schools need some attention in upcoming add ons.
I still feel like conjuration got short end of the stick in the base game. Even with Dawnguard, conjuration still has a pathetic amount of summoning spells compared to Morrowind and Oblivion.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:00 am

For the love of talos, I prey this dlc isnt about necromancy. It'd be just like dawnguard, want something else.

I realy want something political, maybe a continuation of the civil war? The dragonborn is powerful, he should be able to rise to power in skyrim, not just fade away.For helping eitherside in the CW, all you get is a pitiful little pat on the back. Thats it. No request to help the occupation if you w/ imperials, no request to help defend the new kingdom if you are w/ stormcloaks, no positions of power offered on either side, even though you just one the bloody war for them.

More importantly, there is no option for you to take over your self. As dragonborn, we have the blood of talos, domination flows through our vains. Lore wise at least, we have the power to shout entire armies into submission (because of in game cool down, shouting falls a little flat). Why shouldnt we claim what we have the power to?

I'd like a dlc based around... well... us. The player. The dragonborn. A continueation of the MQ,CW, what ever.

And please for talos sake, A REAL CASTLE, hell, a direct port of battlehorn from oblivion is fine with me, if they cant actualy make a good one. Our "tricked out" castles in dawnguard fell flat big time.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:51 pm

Whatever it may be, I hope it either expands on our identity as Dragonborn or takes us to Orsinium. That's all I care about.

Oh, and by expanding I mean improving our shouting abilities or delving into the dragon lore even further.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:07 am

I hope it comes in spetember
I hope will be big as shivering isles
I hope will add spears and all the remeaning features of game jam
I hope willbe epic
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:59 am

as if there weren't enough added in dawnguard? conjuration and restoration were the only schools with new content, I'd say the other schools need some attention in upcoming add ons.
3 sunlight spells, and 3 variations of skeleton summons is not that much. the warriors got dragon bone weapons, a cross bow, and new armor. that is a LOT more.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:07 am

3 sunlight spells, and 3 variations of skeleton summons is not that much. the warriors got dragon bone weapons, a cross bow, and new armor. that is a LOT more.

Just goes to show you, as always mages are under appreciated.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:17 am

Just goes to show you, as always mages are under appreciated.
Yes, yes they are. I dont even like playing as a warrior, it gets SOOOOOOOOOO boring after a few hours of play. At least as a master sorceress i can choose how to approach a situation, rathe than just spamming right trigger.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:04 am

Yes, yes they are. I dont even like playing as a warrior, it gets SOOOOOOOOOO boring after a few hours of play. At least as a master sorceress i can choose how to approach a situation, rathe than just spamming right trigger.

I can never stand playing as a pure warrior, mine are either a battlemage based off of the atronach stone, or a sneaky spellsword that uses illusion, alteration/conjuartion to kill things. Destruction magic does need some required loving though.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:37 pm

I can never stand playing as a pure warrior, mine are either a battlemage based off of the atronach stone, or a sneaky spellsword that uses illusion, alteration/conjuartion to kill things. Destruction magic does need some required loving though.
destruction really needs to be b uffed, i can do it, but i need a follower with me to not constantly die on master with destruction, yeah i can just stun lock people, but how fun is that?
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