[RUby DIaz]

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If you get a high readiness score in multiplayer you get to see all 3 ending plus shepard lives, in singleplayer you can only get 50% readiness but still make max 3800 and see all 3 ending but you die in all versions

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I'm under the impression you can see the best ending if you've imported fairly successful ME1/ME2 characters. Have I been misled?

[FABIAN RUIZ]

Bugger. I do sort of feel sorry for Hudson after reading that press release. I'm disappointed with the end too but not quite to the extent of the 'hold the line' campaigners. I'm a firm believer in the fact that, at the end of the day, it's Biowares game and they can write whatever they like-they don't owe us anything. Having read a bit more about it they've obviously thought this was going to be a killer ending but had no idea just how enraged the fan base was going to be... There are plot holes sure enough, but as time goes on these are the only things that bother me. How it ends with

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Shep's death (or being stranded on some planet)

I could totally live with if some other inconsistencies were explained.

[Ezekiel Macallister]

Thread 62, page 4... I'll keep this one in mind if I want to reveal to myself what I intended.



P.S. the soundtrack is awesome. Got it from the CE, my currently favorite track is Surkesh.

[Nathan Hunter]

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I'm under the impression you can see the best ending if you've imported fairly successful ME1/ME2 characters. Have I been misled?

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I have the hint book, and have also read the ign spoiler page, what ive played through in single player, and i have all my saves from me 1 intact also also everyone survived the suicide mission except kelly chambers, who for some reason survived in all my other versions, but you get a set cutscene for the ending, you live if you play multiplayer you die, if you dont or if you dont get 3800 readiness you dont see all 3 endings, only thing from the rest of the other games is who is there at the end, and who is present during the missions ingame, the end is the end, its a set cutscene kill reapers, control reapers, or turn everyone into bio/mechanical beings and reapers just fly off. I think their best ending is bio/mechanical beings everyone survives but no matter what the signal is spread by the relays and they go boom, even though we already know if they go boom what damage they do. The only difference is the amount of points you need if you didnt destroy the reaper base in 2 or whether you did, and if anderson survives and thats set by choices you make talking to the illusive man in me 3, i missed out on an option because i was distracted by a family member and my run through anderson died, although i cant see how he would have survived since shepard died in my version, or maybe he mystically appears on the normandy at the end as well.

[Marguerite Dabrin]

Some people are taking the game way too seriously. Reminds me of an article I read last night about Second Life. Apparently it's deteriorated into cliques. One of these cliques is the JLU -- a group that likes to dress its avatars up in spandex and play superhero, by patrolling the interwebs and trolling, griefing and abusing people it suspects of badmouthing Linden Labs and/or doing illegal or shady/unacceptable things. These people are so involved in this JLU that they send spy bots out to places in Second Life to gather dirt, orchestrate mass ambushes, etc. They even have their own secure wiki where they list all of their possible "enemies", what's happening with lulzsec and Anonymous and how they can help authorities in that regard, and where they discuss who in their ranks could be spies, and... They sound like a thoroughly pathetic bunch.

It's a game. You're disappointed with the endings, and that's understandable. What is not understandable is the militant reaction. It's just a little bit too sad to watch. Get a grip, and get a life.

I know what you mean by people taking gaming way to seriously, especially MMOs. But yeah if you go to the bioware forums it is down right sad. People whinning about boycotting and protesting because they didn't get the precious ending they wanted. I think there is more important things to worry about then a frikkin video game. I mean even over Skyrim release. I read numerous insane posts over people complaining over their family/girlfriends or taking sick days and vacation time off for a video game FFS. I don't think I would waste what little vacation time I had over a game release and rather go somehwere. People's lives have become pathetic in this day and age.

[Frank Firefly]

People's lives have become pathetic in this day and age.

People have always been like that. The difference is that now they can speak out their mind thanks to Internet.

[Euan]

So it's true then? Thanks a lot FateOrFatality for ruining the ending for me. Thanks a [censored] million.

I am sorry that happened, but unfortunately, in threads like this, if you are playing a new game that people are also playing and are ahead of you, you should mostly try to avoid it until you are at a point where spoilers might not happen. People try to be courteous, but just forget the spoiler tags now and again.

People have always been like that. The difference is that now they can speak out their mind thanks to Internet.

People have been more inclined to remember the basic rules of social civility when their name or face is attached to their opinion. The internet, with it's perceived anonymity, seems to bring out the most childish, rudest, entitled behavior across a broad spectrum of ages, genders, nationalities, whatever.

[Alan Whiston]

People have always been like that. The difference is that now they can speak out their mind thanks to Internet.

I disagree. Some people are complaining just becuase they cant live happily ever after with their waifus.
Complaining about not getting a happy ending, thats fine some people jsut cant handle anything else. But boycotting, thats just pathetic. Its a story move on.

I have played a few things with no happy ending. I didnt like how some things were handled (bad things happen, for no reason other than making you feel bad), but I didnt go around speaking of boycotting the devs, becuase they didnt do exactly as I wanted. Hell worst case scenario, come up with your own ending. Pretend its canon, its a game, its not real. You can just pretend whatever you disliked didnt happen if its that much of an issue.

[Julie Ann]

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How did you do that? I had no speech options with Mordin even though I've supported the Genophage every chance I get.

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Killed Wrex on Virmire, supported genophage on every conversation with Mordin, destroyed Maelon's research data, let Mordin kill Maelon, didn't reveal the Dalatras' suggestion and renegade convinced Mordin that the cure when Wreav is in charge is a [censored] stupid idea. Which it is

It's a game. You're disappointed with the endings, and that's understandable. What is not understandable is the militant reaction. It's just a little bit too sad to watch. Get a grip, and get a life.

You just need the right attitude when reading that stuff. I've been laughing so hard my sides ache reading BSN since release Atleast half of those people can't be serious. I refuse to acknowledge that possiblity.

Also it has been noted by the gaming media http://penny-arcade.com/comic

[BEl J]

People have always been like that. The difference is that now they can speak out their mind thanks to Internet.

lol true, very true. It is like idiots now commit crimes and then post it on Youtube and act surprised the police show up at their door... ROFL

[Bonnie Clyde]

But yeah if you go to the bioware forums it is down right sad. People whinning about boycotting and protesting because they didn't get the precious ending they wanted. I think there is more important things to worry about then a frikkin video game. I mean even over Skyrim release. I read numerous insane posts over people complaining over their family/girlfriends or taking sick days and vacation time off for a video game FFS. I don't think I would waste what little vacation time I had over a game release and rather go somehwere. People's lives have become pathetic in this day and age.

I can understand if you just want to go somewhere to complain about the game. That's fine. It's the people that are setting up charity funds and "holding lines"... It would be nice to see them get this passionate about something else. Like, I don't know, RL?

You just need the right attitude when reading that stuff. I've been laughing so hard my sides ache reading BSN since release Atleast half of those people can't be serious. I refuse to acknowledge that possiblity.

I'm sure at least half of the BSN is kidding or just ranting so they have something to say. I thought this thread needed a PSA, is all. It wasn't intended for anyone in particular.

[Cathrine Jack]

I thought this thread needed a PSA, is all.

A what now?

[m Gardner]

The reaction to the endings is completely justified, I know I'm pissed that my choices won't matter in the end. Terrible and this is the same company that made the Baldur Gate's 1 & 2, KOTOR, Mass Effect and Dragon Age Origins, it's a shame they've fallen so far. Mass Effect 3 has so many high points yet the last 10 minutes ruin the franchise for me. Normally I wouldn't care about something so minor but in this case it's not minor, it's the end of a trilogy. This would be like Return of The Jedi, after Vader kills the emperor and then he dies. Luke then gets a scene with a holographic boy (With Jar Jar Binks Voice actor) telling you that the force is evil and will continue to be evil no matter what you do. He then gives you the option to kill the force off completely and possibly other choices, unfortunately the Death Star Beam destroys everybody that has the force and then the only thing that's left is Jawas. The same scenairo will probably play out in ME3, the Yahg will eventually be supreme while the other races crumple.

[Eve(G)]

You just need the right attitude when reading that stuff. I've been laughing so hard my sides ache reading BSN since release Atleast half of those people can't be serious. I refuse to acknowledge that possiblity.

Your talkinng about a site, that has people who seriously speculated, what Tali's sweat tasted like.
Im suprised Bioware hasnt started selling those creepy body pillow things. They would sell like hotcakes if BSN is anything to go by.

[Melly Angelic]

Hold the line! We will not let their rhetoric stand in our way this day. Can't believe people are just bending over and taking this kind of treatment. Should have some more self respect. Not to mention if your feeling bad for Casey Hudson that's going according to their PR team's plans to mitigate the damage of this ending. Don't fall for it, companies are not some person we talk to. They are a conglomerate of people out to get our money by selling us things. Nothing more. The only way to get them to listen is their wallets. If the fans are that disappointed to actually injure their profits then they will have no other option but to cave in. However don't get too emotional keep it civil. If we get all thunder and fury on them we're likely to burn out emotionally. So just be reasonable and hold the line.

Edit
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10084349has some insightful information on their process to try and control and manipulate their fanbase.

[Elisabete Gaspar]

Can't believe people are just bending over and taking this kind of treatment. Should have some more self respect.

I can, until the ending people were always defending Biowares horrible actions, even defending content that was developed with the game, only to be sold seperately.

Its pretty sad it took a [censored] ending to get people to complain. Bioware should have just kept to extortion, and they would be fine.

[Sarah Kim]

I can, until the ending people were always defending Biowares horrible actions, even defending content that was developed with the game, only to be sold seperately.

Its pretty sad it took a [censored] ending to get people to complain. Bioware should have just kept to extortion, and they would be fine.

The Prothean I don't care so much about. It was evident he was a casualty of the rushed endings. If they couldn't give us a damn straight ending they sure as hell couldn't finish him for inclusion into the main game. It's a reasonable thing to do to sell him. I'm not bothered by that at all. Which is unusual really.

[Robert]

So it's true then? Thanks a lot FateOrFatality for ruining the ending for me. Thanks a [censored] million.

The ending would have been ruined for you anyway. When you experienced it.

It's hideous. I don't even really think it can be spoiled. More issues left unresolved than resolved. Plus:

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You do more damage than you repair. Mass relays destroyed, essentially screwing galactic civilization. Another race wiped out if you choose to destroy the Reapers (which is what, you know, you were always trying to do).

It's also argued (though not explicit) that Earth's total destruction is inevitable in two of the three endings. No sense of accomplishment. And many people think Shepard dies anyway, that the 'last breath' ending is as inexplicable and implausible as the Normandy nonsense -- a symbolic Easter egg meant to inspire hope. We can't be sure of these things because, yeah, "Speculation!1"

[Chenae Butler]

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I'm under the impression you can see the best ending if you've imported fairly successful ME1/ME2 characters. Have I been misled?

My SP playthrough was imported from ME1&2 and very comprehensive, and I ended up with around 3600. I haven't heard of anyone managing higher than 3800.

[cassy]

Hold the line! .

I'm with you brotha! I refuse to buy ME3 unless two conditions are met; at or below $20 or free ending fix. And there goes any hope of me buying any dlc for the first two games (I have both games but no dlc)

[Charlie Sarson]

My SP playthrough was imported from ME1&2 and very comprehensive, and I ended up with around 3600. I haven't heard of anyone managing higher than 3800.

Same here. Made all the best choices, and ended up under 4000

[tannis]

Something I have been wondering, with how Javik looks in ME3 compared to the tentacle headed statues in ME1, how did the prothean design change so much?

[Jason Wolf]

A what now?

Public Service Announcement.

[Mandy Muir]

Hmm, seems i no longer need to go to BSN for the drama I just don't understand how an ending of a game can get people this riled up.

And if BW does change the endings then i lose respect for them, for caving for internet rage

Public Service Announcement.

Ah, of course. It always something simple

Something I have been wondering, with how Javik looks in ME3 compared to the tentacle headed statues in ME1, how did the prothean design change so much?

Well he does look a bit like a Collector, so i suppose that happened with ME2

[Kay O'Hara]

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the Collectors are Proetheans