Tweet Hines is referring to the information they gave out last Wednesday about content coming soon - not what's coming next Wednesday - but hey you could be right and they may surprise us all yet

Not every member of the community!
Yes.....Yes.....come to the light!

Re-reading the tweet, it is so bloody obvious he's referring to an earlier announcement. I must've had my pink glasses on or something to misread it so.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious VampRageous, now I don't have anything to loof forward to.
Except for my next beer, cheers.

Beer? What type of beer?

Normally I'm not "that guy" but this time I believe the PS3 console deserves special consideration.

Did the PS3 get all of the DLC for Oblivion?

If a PC user, a 360 user, and a PS3 user pull out their copy of Fallout 3 or Fallout: New Vegas complete with all DLC, which one of these players cannot play their games because they are completely broken messes and slideshows if they load at all?

Did all consoles pay the same price for every base game? Which console got the buggiest mess? Which console seems to be ignored when it comes to actually fixing the issues with fps, lag, bugs, broken quests, glitches, and freezes?

Which console's fanbase bought Skyrim based on outright lies, fraud, and misrepresentation?

Which console's base game was "forgotten" when it came to sending copies to review sites? Which base game had their failings hidden from public view until after people spent their money on it and it was too late to get full refunds?

Like I've said, normally I'm not "that guy", but PS3 users have paid our dues and gotten the shaft for every single game Bethesda has released for them. I think the concept of "fair" went out the window six years ago. PS3 users deserve, yes I said deserve, something special and maybe even exclusive from Bethesda.

One can lecture me that "two wrongs don't make a right", but at this point I don't care. It has been five, six, seven, I lost count how many wrongs have been suffered by PS3 users when it comes to Bethesda titles and the hope that "this time they will take care of us. This time we will get a working game for our money, just like the other guys. Oh, ok, still broken. Well, this time they will fix it." I have spent way too much on Bethesda just to hear about PC and 360 players still enjoying their Bethesda titles, complete with all DLC, while I cannot even get my copies to load. PC and 360 players still have beautiful games, I have broken wrecks, yet we paid the same amount of money. I have never seen a company treat it's paying customers as bad as Bethesda treats their PS3 users, we deserve some reparation. So PC and 360 players will cry, oh well. We will look at them and simply reply "Welcome to our world. By the way, how are your Fallout games? Still working? That's what I thought. Are you enjoying the Fighters Stronghold, Vile Lair, and the Orrery? Gee, wish I could have seen them. We didn't even get the joke known as horse armor."

Edited for some spelling mistakes that bugged me.

I really want Dawnguard and Dragonborn....i could care less about Hearthfire.

At the moment I'm drinking a Modus Hoperandi India Pale Ale from Ska brewing in Durango USA. And I'm pretty sure the next one will be the same.

EDIT: Spelling errors

Aw Sorry VDViking didn't mean to burst your happy bubble .... just to bring an ounce of fact and realism

I feel it's time to announce i made it safely back from the cautiously optimistic camp and am now back safely in the pessimistic camp ... but with one eye on the optimistic camp just in case.

Completely agree with XOSMOS! Well said.

A little early to be drinking isn't it? lol Well....its 10:43 where i'm at

why are you guys upset? Did you think it was a BRAND NEW DLC??

not a BRAND NEW DLC - just A DLC

What system are you on?

never mind!!!! i am caught up now!

AAAAMEN!!!

I agree with nearly everything here. But I don't want any exclusive content. The only 'exclusivity' should be in things intrinsically coupled to the platform - mods for PC, kinect for Xbox, stuttering and crashing for PS3.

oh, wait.. that last bit should be something like 'six axis and screenshots for PS3'

I do think the 'right' thing for Beth to do at this point is to mark down whatever content is going to be released relative to the delay, so DG around 12-14USD and HF 3.00. I don't think I will pay full price for DG after this treatment unless I'm 99% certain its going to work very well. After buying FONV DLC I'm pretty damned wary and at full price I will be waiting a good while so I can see what others are reporting.

I'm also concerned that if there arent enough early sales for the PS3 DLC that will justify their neglect and our support will drop off to nothing again.

But the optimist in me is hopeful that with Sony's help they have had some revelation and what we'll get from 1.8 will be a decent improvement in the vanilla game and

I guess this is a PS for my last post.

Anyone get the Oblivion/Fallout 3 double pack for their PS3?

Oh yeah, that's right. It doesn't exist on the PS3.

The reason is Sony squashed it's release. I guess they didn't want a re-re-release of broken games on their console. Fine by me. Sony prevented a shameless money grab in exchange for broken products by Bethesda for once. Although, that being said, how that "premium edition" made it into Europe I'll never know. Could be that they are still working on the game, so they let it slide. Oblivion and Fallout 3 stopped getting fixes and patches years ago.

Personally, I would rather Bethesda just stop trying with the PS3 console after Skyrim. It's obvious they really don't know what they are doing, and as mentioned above, the sales they get probably wouldn't justify even a cheap port job, again. I think Skyrim burned PS3 users to the point where it will take serious groveling on the part of Bethesda to make us come back to them. I don't think the company is willing to do the work it will take to get the PS3 fanbase to come back.

We'll see what this "content" is they are releasing (note they didn't call it DLC, just "content"). We will see what kind of price point they think they can get away with, and we'll see if this "content" does what all the others have done in breaking the base game. All I know is I'm getting serious Fallout: New Vegas flashbacks from this whole situation.

As you get older, you'll see its all grey. Grey


There is just as much wrong with blind and unwarranted optimism as there is with black and unrelenting pessimism. You find a balance or should anyways. And that balance is heavily modified every time you enter a different situation.

Was the tiny crack in Bethesda's wall of silence a good thing? Yes. It wasn't the Second Coming however. They were nice words(a very few nice words at that) and i refuse to get ecstatic about it without some actually deeds to back it up.

And even then, no amount of good business now is going to fully wipe out all the shoddy(and i'm being gracious here) business shannigans Bethesda has pulled in general and with the PS3 in specific.

Time to grow up a bit Stormy.

Grey.

You have your opinions....i have mine....

I threw away my copy of skyrim so i will never know, but you know what i feel way better!
Even if the dlc will ever reach ps3 users it will never be as "much" fun as it was. This whole dlc story must have killed more then the fun, it took away the fun looking forward to something. Devs must understand this.

Your relentless optimism is something needed on these forums, it does balance out the negativity from folks like me, but some of us view it as saying "Master stopped hitting me in the face with a closed fist! Now, she is only using her open hand! Yaayyy!"

Like I've said before, some of us have walked down a very similar path with Bethesda. We are in the middle of wicked flashbacks from other broken titles that had broken DLC piled on top of them making the game completely unplayable. Unless something absolutely miraculous happens, we are expecting to have another broken Bethesda title on our shelves that will be nothing more than a symbol of frustration and wasted money brought on by lies from a company that does not care.

I hope you are not offended by a bit of backlash from those of us that are in a state of absolute disgust with Bethesda. If you are, we apologize, but please just understand where we are coming from.

Yet some are optimistic and others pessimistic each for their own reasons and each free to express that as long as they are within the rules of the forum. One thing is for sure, one may irritate us with their optimistic outlook when we are not in the mood, but many optimistic see the pessimistic ones as kill joys. Thus we must learn to be tolerate and kind and just let each other roll the way they roll.

Let each other be.

Bethesda:

It's coming, it's coming! Please leave us alone now and go away. Why won't you PS3 folks leave us alone? We said you're going to get something. Why are you so skeptical? Geez, you'd swear we had treated you like muck with Skyrim, Fallout: New Vegas, Oblivion, and Fallout 3 with respect to DLC and game crashing bugs. Why won't you believe us now and go away? Surely a vague promise of "add-on content" coming soon is sufficient for you guys?

PS3 Users:

No, it isn't and it's insulting that you thought it would be.

I absolutely know where you're coming from. I have not been a bethesda gamer since Oblivion...and that was in June 2011! I understand you guys have been screwed over and over....but i also think change is coming. And i look forward to seeing you all getting what you deserve (myself included)

I'm still very much looking forward to any expansions of Skyrim. It is a great game and I just want to be able to spend more time with it without having to start a new character. I will start a new character when we get DG or DB but not for HF. There are a lot fo things Bethesda could have made better, for example almost everyhing around the Civil War, but that is not anything gamebraking, it just diminishes the RPG immersion. Plus, personally I would have loved to side with the Forsworn against both the Imperials and the Stormcloaks, or to hunt down all the remains of the opposition after victory. The last is impossible since all camp leaders are immortal.

I've had a pretty smooth ride Skyrim wise, no game breaking bugs even though my save files are 13 MB and above, and just a few freezes when monsters or new areas are loaded. Of course the odd kill cam on miss and Louis what's-his-name appearing as an extra incarnation everytime I fast travel to Whiterun, but as I said nothing gamebreaking. I don't know if it has something with the fact that I have about 300 GB free space on my HDD, I believe it might as I recall reading that Skyrim uses the HDD for swap files, and if HDD space is limited the game's performance will suffer. But don't hold me on the last bit, as even I don't trust my memory.