[Stacyia]

I don't get why the PS3 players are too mad about this. First they are complaining about how bad of a performance the game had on PS3, and now they want the DLC rushed instead of bethesda verifying that it's stable.

It's not that it's delayed as much as they didn't give a sht about how the main game performed and the games before it. Now all the sudden they care about performance? To bad they didn't give a sht since FO3.

[Anna Kyselova]

It's not that it's delayed as much as they didn't give a sht about how the main game performed and the games before it. Now all the sudden they care about performance? To bad they didn't give a sht since FO3.

Well would you prefer it to be unstable now?

[BRIANNA]

Well would you prefer it to be unstable now?

You either missed my point or are just here to troll. I mean was what I said really that hard to understand?

[Matthew Barrows]

any word on whether ps3 players get dawnguard at a discount? i'm on pc but i feel for you guys, i really do. ps3 has been handed the [censored] end of the stick from the start, it's shameful.

[Joie Perez]

Well would you prefer it to be unstable now?

For me, It's not about the delay or the stability. It's about the lack of communication and the vague and frankly rude responses from Beth. I understand that they find it challenging to code for PS3 and perhaps it's good for them to take their time, but at least give us the occasional progress update. I'm tired of "when/if"s and "we have no further news"

[loste juliana]

Since we'll all be shuffling about in slow circles on zimmer frames and slippies when news of this comes out it's fair to say the only fun game we'll be playing is "where are my teeth?".

Totally just bummed myself out.

[SWagg KId]

The lack of information is disappointing, but Beth's got to do what Beth's got to do, right? If it would be released in a sub-par state, that would lead to even more complaints, and by then people would even be able to take legal measures since they payed for a product that is not of the promised quality. At this moment, Bethesda owes you nothing. All we can do is be patient, and hope that when it comes out, the game will be in good state.

For those looking for their RPG-fix, may I advice Borderlands and Fallout: New Vegas? Borderlands is a FPS with RPG elements mixed in (especially great for the looters out there), and Fallout: New Vegas is a more traditional RPG that was released by Bethesda a few years ago, and is still a fantastic example of RPGs. You should be able to find both at $20 or less if you know where to look. Have patience!

I don't get why the PS3 players are too mad about this. First they are complaining about how bad of a performance the game had on PS3, and now they want the DLC rushed instead of bethesda verifying that it's stable.

@ the sentiment in general expressed by these two posters, not necessarily at them.

I actually had a huge post written but deleted it. The gist of it is Bethesda is currently playing fast and loose on the cusp of what's legally fine and what's morally abhorrent. Its disingenuous and more than a bit insulting when ppl just disregard this in order to apparently white-knight on Beth.'s behalf.

*If a given platform is not going to be treated the same as others getting the same product, say so up front.

*If you are having issues with a highly awaited product, you don't wait until after the last minute and then do a piss-poor job of damage control.

*And most importantly, silence is NOT golden. Yeah folks would be mad, but you take the heat straight-away and its almost ALWAYS gonna be better than lying(lying by omission of facts is STILL lying) for any length of time and then being found out.


Is Beth. required to behave better? Not at all, but it does not make their current behavior(Gstaff is exempt, 'cause that dude has been in the stink since the word go) in any way acceptable. It just good business practice to at least seem like you give a care when you are actively angering a customer. Its like most of the Bethesda crew skipped that seminar on customer care...

[Phoenix Draven]

Any updates on Dawnguard??

[abi]

Any updates on Dawnguard??

Nothing outside of the latest web article that was linked on page 2.

Oh but PR Maester Extraordinaire Pete Hines is now fully stocked up on candy for his office!!!

[img]https://p.twimg.com/A0mWLn_CEAAtq4E.jpg[/img]

Straight from his personal Twitter page, the source of all info on Dawnguard and its arduos journey to the PS3!!!!
http://twitter.com/DCDeacon

[Stat Wrecker]

Today, (meaning sunday) is when the drop normally comes out, so if DG comes out this week we will know later today.

FINGERS CROSSED!

[Cathrin Hummel]

Today, (meaning sunday) is when the drop normally comes out, so if DG comes out this week we will know later today.

FINGERS CROSSED!

. What time does the drop usually publish???

[Nicholas]

Today, (meaning sunday) is when the drop normally comes out, so if DG comes out this week we will know later today.

FINGERS CROSSED!

I hope it's on there!!!!!!

[asako]

I'm extremely disappointed that there's still no word of a release date. I've sunk so much time into this game and enjoyed every second (massive crash bugs aside) and have just completed yet another play through, prepping a new character for Dawnguard. However, this is starting to feel like a complete waste, as there's no indication as to when we'll see the DLC.

I don't expect a discount, though I feel that, after all of the issues us PS3 owners have had to put up with, it would be a really kind and generous gesture from Bethesda, considering how many of us have been affected. I understand that you, Bethesda, aren't happy with the PS3 performance - how do you think we're feeling? We're not exactly overjoyed that a company we've given a ton of time and money to are ignoring us. That's truly disappointing performance.

Bethesda, come down from the top of the tower and give us a sign. Any sign. Rather than just being deliberately oblique and giving us nothing but a rather insulting silence.

[Brian LeHury]

I highly doubt they will be releasing dawn guard before everyone gets patch 1.7 which apparently we wont be getting for awhile ether

[Ashley Hill]

@ the sentiment in general expressed by these two posters, not necessarily at them.

I actually had a huge post written but deleted it. The gist of it is Bethesda is currently playing fast and loose on the cusp of what's legally fine and what's morally abhorrent. Its disingenuous and more than a bit insulting when ppl just disregard this in order to apparently white-knight on Beth.'s behalf.

*If a given platform is not going to be treated the same as others getting the same product, say so up front.

*If you are having issues with a highly awaited product, you don't wait until after the last minute and then do a piss-poor job of damage control.

*And most importantly, silence is NOT golden. Yeah folks would be mad, but you take the heat straight-away and its almost ALWAYS gonna be better than lying(lying by omission of facts is STILL lying) for any length of time and then being found out.


Is Beth. required to behave better? Not at all, but it does not make their current behavior(Gstaff is exempt, 'cause that dude has been in the stink since the word go) in any way acceptable. It just good business practice to at least seem like you give a care when you are actively angering a customer. Its like most of the Bethesda crew skipped that seminar on customer care...

As I said already in my prior post, I strongly disagree with the way Bethesda is handling this. They are giving out a lot less information than they should, and seem to have more of a liking to the Xbox 360 (mind you, I'm a PS3 player myself). However, I still think that Dawnguard needs to be in good state before release. Of course I'd rather see Dawnguard released today than tomorrow, but there is absolutely nothing you, or I, or anyone except for Bethesda itself can do about it. You say Bethesda is exploring the border of what is moral a bit to closely, and I agree with you, but if they released Dawnguard now, they would have released a game that doesn't work as it should, meaning they are also legally wrong.

Again, I would rather see Dawnguard released today than tomorrow, but not in a state in which it will hardly function. And remember that Bethesda can pull any stunt it wants, since everyone will just buy the next DLC/installment anyways.

[Ridhwan Hemsome]

As I said already in my prior post, I strongly disagree with the way Bethesda is handling this. They are giving out a lot less information than they should, and seem to have more of a liking to the Xbox 360 (mind you, I'm a PS3 player myself). However, I still think that Dawnguard needs to be in good state before release. Of course I'd rather see Dawnguard released today than tomorrow, but there is absolutely nothing you, or I, or anyone except for Bethesda itself can do about it. You say Bethesda is exploring the border of what is moral a bit to closely, and I agree with you, but if they released Dawnguard now, they would have released a game that doesn't work as it should, meaning they are also legally wrong.

Again, I would rather see Dawnguard released today than tomorrow, but not in a state in which it will hardly function. And remember that Bethesda can pull any stunt it wants, since everyone will just buy the next DLC/installment anyways.

I agree with you to a point. i disagree with that last line. i feel if they wait too much longer to release Dawnguard, knowing that the next dlc will do the same thing, i don't think people will give a care enough to even buy it when its released for ps3 because of this whole thing with Dawnguard.

[Richus Dude]

Journal Of SoKoLoV The Betrayed

Day 19: Sundas

I am sitting here in Winterhold practicing my spells on Tolfdir, I succeeded in freezing him, but still no chance of succes trying to make him explode. I just don't understand it, he told me Dawnguard would be available at the end of the month, after Riften had the change to experience it for such a long time. I feel like such a fool, he must think I am a Falmer, because only a blind one would fall for such a thing.

I prayed to mighty Talos and even tried my chances with Nocturnal to increase my luck, but nothing works. The divines told me they aren't happy with Dawnguard like it is at the moment, they demand more sacrifices. I think I will have to ask the Dark Brotherhood for help, maybe they can help me. Untill then I will make sure to remove every bucket from Skyrim, that way I can be sure they won't steal from me again...ever!

[Trish]

Although I'm not affected as a PC user, I do think Bethesda should offer more clarity when it comes to these things. The wait might have been more durable if they'd said "we're not satisfied with performance on the PS3" before the 30 days were up. Part of the problem might be that Hines wasn't exactly communicating very well with the players, just saying "no update" rather than something like "Sorry guys, no news yet. I promise I'll tell you when I can".

I may not play on the PS3, but I think next time they should get it before the PC; considering the technical issues, I don't think PS3 users deserve to wait another 5 weeks without any info.

[Josh Trembly]

i am think that PS3 should get Dawnguard for cheap. Less than PC and Xbox. And the reason for this is that PC and Xbox have had it for weeks and we(PS3) don't even know when we are getting it. i think the amount of time that it is delayed makes us deserve a discount. What do you guys think?

[Adrian Powers]

i am think that PS3 should get Dawnguard for cheap. Less than PC and Xbox. And the reason for this is that PC and Xbox have had it for weeks and we(PS3) don't even know when we are getting it. i think the amount of time that it is delayed makes us deserve a discount. What do you guys think?

I don't agree with that at all. If given the option between waiting longer or paying more to get it sooner a lot of people would choose to wait, I know I certainly would. Besides PC users had to wait over 5 weeks as well.

[John N]

I don't agree with that at all. If given the option between waiting longer or paying more to get it sooner a lot of people would choose to wait, I know I certainly would. Besides PC users had to wait over 5 weeks as well.

so you think that people who have waited twice as long PC should pay just as much for it? how is that fair?

[Nathan Barker]

I agree with you to a point. i disagree with that last line. i feel if they wait too much longer to release Dawnguard, knowing that the next dlc will do the same thing, i don't think people will give a care enough to even buy it when its released for ps3 because of this whole thing with Dawnguard.

The sad thing is that people will care enough to buy it, even when it's released two or three months later. I know I care enough. It's the same with the Call of Duty series; no matter how much it svcks, people will still buy it. Same thing goes for Dawnguard; it's an expansion for Skyrim, after all. If anything, people will be even more eager to buy it, since they have had to wait for so long.

so you think that people who have waited twice as long PC should pay just as much for it? how is that fair?

You still get the same amount of content as the PC users. Yes, some sort of compensation from Bethesda's part would be nice, but I'm not sure that will happen, let go that the PS3-Dawnguard will get a pricedrop.

[James Shaw]

The sad thing is that people will care enough to buy it, even when it's released two or three months later. I know I care enough. It's the same with the Call of Duty series; no matter how much it svcks, people will still buy it. Same thing goes for Dawnguard; it's an expansion for Skyrim, after all. If anything, people will be even more eager to buy it, since they have had to wait for so long.

i can see that, i think the amount of people that won't care will be like 25%, another 25% will fake not caring, another 25% will be angery & the last 25% will say it comes when it comes. just like right now. & thats sad. but right now, stuff like Call of duty & Dawnguard are safe buys & easy fun. unlike buying a new ip, that might be hit or miss.

[Blessed DIVA]

To be honest, I'm just not going to buy it if it does come out for PS3. It's just not worth it anymore imo.

If I want to experience any Dawnguard action, I'll look up youtube clips of it and act like I'm playing or something in my mind. You know what would make this user really happy? If Bethesda would just DROP DG on PS3 until a later date, and focus on the next DLC and get it out on time, in above-satisfactory condition. That smooth things over with a lot of people imo, because that would be an admittance that they "messed up" the last one and instead of trying to fix something way after the fact as well as that they do actually care (which I have my doubts) about getting quality product out on time.

[A Boy called Marilyn]

As I said already in my prior post, I strongly disagree with the way Bethesda is handling this. They are giving out a lot less information than they should, and seem to have more of a liking to the Xbox 360 (mind you, I'm a PS3 player myself). However, I still think that Dawnguard needs to be in good state before release. Of course I'd rather see Dawnguard released today than tomorrow, but there is absolutely nothing you, or I, or anyone except for Bethesda itself can do about it. You say Bethesda is exploring the border of what is moral a bit to closely, and I agree with you, but if they released Dawnguard now, they would have released a game that doesn't work as it should, meaning they are also legally wrong.

Again, I would rather see Dawnguard released today than tomorrow, but not in a state in which it will hardly function. And remember that Bethesda can pull any stunt it wants, since everyone will just buy the next DLC/installment anyways.

Two things: 1) I've said here and in comments on web articles elsewhere i have no problem with waiting even longer for PS3 to get Dawnguard. Only thing is i think for any extended amount of waiting(which imo started the day Xbox 360 exclusivity period ended) Skyrim customers should be receiving actual status updates as to what is what.

and

2) What happens when/if PS3 gets this DLC and its still riddled with bugs? Not that any of the Beth. defenders will pop in to say, "Sorry, guess i was talking out of my backside," when this happens.


Let's be real, its a few days and then were at the full one month marker after initial 30 day wait period. With talk i've seen here and there, Fallout 4 is gearing up, the second Skyrim DLC is in the works, and of course Dishonored(sp.?) is about to get pushed hard; if Dawnguard doesn't get put out for PS3 soon i'm smelling GOTY BS. And that's where i really feel all this is heading, its just beyond silly that that Beth. won't say ANYTHING.

Although I'm not affected as a PC user, I do think Bethesda should offer more clarity when it comes to these things. The wait might have been more durable if they'd said "we're not satisfied with performance on the PS3" before the 30 days were up. Part of the problem might be that Hines wasn't exactly communicating very well with the players, just saying "no update" rather than something like "Sorry guys, no news yet. I promise I'll tell you when I can".

I may not play on the PS3, but I think next time they should get it before the PC; considering the technical issues, I don't think PS3 users deserve to wait another 5 weeks without any info.

Not gonna happen sadly. I am coming to believe that zero work went into Dawnguard for PC until after the 360 30 day period ended, and that a PS3 version wasn't even thought about until the PC version was out. And as Microsoft has 30 day exclusivity for the second Skyrim DLC as well, i see this cycle being played out at least once more.