PS3 Release for Dawnguard - Thread #8

Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:46 pm

'Twas one late hour in July,
was waiting for DLC to arrive.
Dawnguard the name,
wanted it all the same.
And we were told to "stand by".

So we waited for news to come in.
Things were certainly looking grim.
Behold the PC
received the beloved DLC
and the PS3 users got a tweet.

So now there is much debate and such.
Although now some folks don't care much.
With school to begin
and new titles coming in
there seems to be no sight in end.

With a love for the lore and play,
this content is untimely delayed.
So I sit and I hope
and I watch others mope
and we all simply dangle on a rope.

Cheers community :biggrin:
LOL I love it! This guys [censored]in ballin!
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:34 pm

**(spoof) Alert!**

Communication captured via... telepathy?:

PR: So.. PS3 users are becoming restless about the DLC. Vague communication isn't enough. Something more concrete is needed.

Coding: It's this damn "nose bleed" effect. It's what's holding up the release. We've spent weeks on this since people complained about it.. It's like it wants to be present in the PS3 version. No way around it so far.

PR: Huh.. so no change? Well, I can't hold the dam forever. Should I tell them about the issue?

Coding: What?!? Are you crazy? No way! We can handle this! We just need a few more months.. er.. no. That's not right. Don't say anything. We got this.

PR: Are you sure? I mean.. I'm getting hammered out there.

Coding: Yeah. We can fix the "nose bleed" effect. It's simply a matter of time.

PR: Um.. I don't know about this.

Coding: Oh yeah. We got this.

**Transmission lost (invariably due to bugs)**

Happy hunting fellow were-vampire-wolves :biggrin:
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:55 am

^^^ HAHAHA nice one, mr. Rage :P
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:46 pm

Hmmm, well reading these past two pages of threads, I'll just make a few observations and then mose on. Bethesda has not verified they are even still working on a DLC for the PS3 at this point, only that they "Have no new information". If there is a tweet somewhere where a rep says , "work still continues - you WILL get a DLC" please post it.

Now to the speculation.... To me Bethesda' silence tells me one thing. They are not worried about the PS3 DLC, because they've already determined they will not make enough money on it to cover their expenses to get it to work on PS3. They also are well aware that it would almost have to be flawless in its operation, or their "black eye" from the vanilla release will soon become two blackened ones. If you've downloaded the 1.6 patch (1.7 in name only) you'll likely have already noted how the visual quality of the game was noticeably lessened especailly if your save files are beyond 10mb. Just adding the memory processing requirements fo 1 DLC will take quite a bit of work, (ie time and MONEY) just to get it playable, 2 or 3 seems pretty far fetched.

Bethesda is in full defensive mode. they've failed to meet many of their PS3 customer expectations, pure and simple. Perhaps internally, they think we expect too much from their product, but thats just corporate nature to lower their success bar after a failure occurs (part of CYA) We'll likely see some DLC content but it won't be a part of the original 11/11/11 release. It will require the release of a newly coded game, GOTY version or Skyrim - Deluxe etc. Bethesda is just buying time to where they can say when it will be ready... And if they have any business sense , purchasers of the original release will be able to purchase it for the cost of the DLCs and other bonus content only.....

Speculation, I know.. but to me this ais about the only way I can make sense out this...
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:17 pm

Hrm... So taking some thoughts.

Do people think we'll see DG for PS3 before Hearthfire releases for Xbox (and we start this whole thing all over again), see Hearthfire come out first and the PS3 community completely loses it, or get information stating DG is all done for the PS3 (and Hearthfire come out and again, community loses it)?

Win, win, win situation!!


Cast your vote and win a DLC!

Er.. wait. No.

We'll have news soon :cool:
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:17 am

Anyone expecting Dawnguard on the PS3 soon is far too optimistic. Patch 1.6/7 hasn't even found its way to Europe yet (despite Gstaff saying it'd be out two weeks ago), and has no new information regarding it.

I honestly think the reason that they have no information to give us regarding the DLC is because either A) They've stopped working on it completely (and are likely waiting until Dishonored comes out before they announce it, so as to avoid losing potential PS3 sales), or B ), they only have a handful of people who are working on it, with the rest of the coding team instead working on the next DLC so they have something to sell for the holiday season.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:50 am

Anyone expecting Dawnguard on the PS3 soon is far too optimistic. Patch 1.6/7 hasn't even found its way to Europe yet (despite Gstaff saying it'd be out two weeks ago), and has no new information regarding it.

I honestly think the reason that they have no information to give us regarding the DLC is because either A) They've stopped working on it completely (and are likely waiting until Dishonored comes out before they announce it, so as to avoid losing potential PS3 sales), or B ), they only have a handful of people who are working on it, with the rest of the coding team instead working on the next DLC so they have something to sell for the holiday season.

Lol if Hearthfire comes out for Xbox before I even get dawnguard I'm pretty sure I'll turn into one of those "im never playing beth games ever again" people. That would just feel like the biggest slap in the face ever, OR I might rage cage as in "F IT IM GETTING SKYRIM ON THE PC svck MY dike I HATE YOU FOR MAKING ME DO THIS". Not quite sure which is worse, both are bad, and i'll be mad either way
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:05 am

On a more serious note (against my better judgment :cool: )..

Gstaff--

I am wondering what exactly is the issue with performance? Is it really the "nose bleed" folks are complaining about for other platforms (see above spoof. I was only playing :banana: ). I have to tell you, I don't mind having a bloody nose. Really. :biggrin:

It would be nice to have some information about the issues being resolved for the PS3. Under contract I'm sure there are things that can't be discussed, but the vague information is lackluster. If it is really about the complete unplayable mess folks seem to think it is, simply let us know. No harm, no foul. I'd rather know I have an incurable disease and plan my days accordingly than hang on hopes of divine intervention. :devil:

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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:33 pm

'Twas one late hour in July,
was waiting for DLC to arrive.
Dawnguard the name,
wanted it all the same.
And we were told to "stand by".

So we waited for news to come in.
Things were certainly looking grim.
Behold the PC
received the beloved DLC
and the PS3 users got a tweet.

So now there is much debate and such.
Although now some folks don't care much.
With school to begin
and new titles coming in
there seems to be no sight in end.

With a love for the lore and play,
this content is untimely delayed.
So I sit and I hope
and I watch others mope
and we all simply dangle on a rope.

Cheers community :biggrin:

Well done sir! They should make a sticky topic out of this.

BACK ON TOPIC:

I, like all of you have waited and waited and waited some more and guess what I waited even more than that and still no Dawnguard, no information, no excuses...only silence and general messages that say nothing at all. I kept my money specially for Dawnguard and I can't postpone any longer, I will spent it on something else. And if Dawnguard comes this century, I will probably only buy it if it has a discount. You can treat your class like this if you are the teacher, but a gaming company does not treat his/her customers like this. A shame since I love games from Bethesda even with the many bugs, glitches and freezes. But every problem has it's "line" and in this case they crossed that line long ago. Not by postponing the DLC, but by treating us like this.

I am counting the days to 21 september when Borderlands 2 gets released in Europe, finally I will be able to enjoy my free time with something new, something made for gamers, something I KNOW will be delivered on time!

I probably can guess how they are talking at Beth right now regarding this whole ordeal:

CEO: "Well people our PS3 fans are still waiting for Dawnguard, how's that going?"

Team Member: "I don't know, John was working on that problem, we are busy on the next DLC"

John: "What me, no way! I am not touching that problem, you can even raise my salary, no way I am starting with that"

CEO: "Then who was been working on it since the end of July?"

"Total silence"

CEO: "Well that explains a lot.....but hey we got their money when they bought Skyrim...we have time..we will release it....eventually"

CEO: "Okay so what are the new ideas for our next DLC, you know I have been thinking about..."
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:39 am

Anyone expecting Dawnguard on the PS3 soon is far too optimistic. Patch 1.6/7 hasn't even found its way to Europe yet (despite Gstaff saying it'd be out two weeks ago), and has no new information regarding it.

I honestly think the reason that they have no information to give us regarding the DLC is because either A) They've stopped working on it completely (and are likely waiting until Dishonored comes out before they announce it, so as to avoid losing potential PS3 sales), or B ), they only have a handful of people who are working on it, with the rest of the coding team instead working on the next DLC so they have something to sell for the holiday season.

That and the fact that 1.7 (light)for the PS3 is missing any and all Dawnguard info, unlike the 1.7s for XBOX and PC. Anothet point supporting my theories above.....
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:18 pm

That and the fact that 1.7 (light)for the PS3 is missing any and all Dawnguard info, unlike the 1.7s for XBOX and PC. Anothet point supporting my theories above.....
people say that but heres the thing,i have said it once i'll say it again. patches can add trophies yes, but that doesn't mean the can be seen, companys like sony will unlock they trophies when either A: the dlc is given to them & they'll release it in a few weeks or B: when the dlc is annouced to be coming sent date. example. a patch for mass effect 2 added trophies for there last dlc, but they were accidently in abled to be seen so months before its release it was confirmed. so sorry the idea that, that proves dawnguard isn't coming to ps3 is 100% wrong.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:38 pm

If you look at fallout 3 the game released on october 28, the first dlc for xbox/gfw released on january 27'th, then 3 more dlcs released the pitt on march 25'th, broken steel may 5, and point lookout on june 23. When did we get these dlc's? We got them on october 1'st nearly a year after release, not to mention all the dlcs were riddled with lag, bugs, and freezes so what can we expect from bethesda now?
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:40 pm

If you look at fallout 3 the game released on october 28, the first dlc for xbox/gfw released on january 27'th, then 3 more dlcs released the pitt on march 25'th, broken steel may 5, and point lookout on june 23. When did we get these dlc's? We got them on october 1'st nearly a year after release, not to mention all the dlcs were riddled with lag, bugs, and freezes so what can we expect from bethesda now?
Well i think they have learned from that & will release the dlc maybe by late september or may a week or two after patch 1.7 is released worldwide.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:22 pm

Do you guys think I should buy Dawnguard for PC, instead of waiting for PS3 version? Because I have a good PC that can run Skyrim with high settings, but all my characters are on PS3, plus I play it on a 32' LCD TV and have a 7.1 sound system, which I don't have for PC. Plus, I'm a graphic/mods [censored] on PC, so I'll probably spend more time changing my visual settings and testing mods than actually playing the damn game (this pisses me off)

What are your opinions on the matter? I'm on a dilemma here.

Thank you guys
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:29 pm

people say that but heres the thing,i have said it once i'll say it again. patches can add trophies yes, but that doesn't mean the can be seen, companys like sony will unlock they trophies when either A: the dlc is given to them & they'll release it in a few weeks or B: when the dlc is annouced to be coming sent date. example. a patch for mass effect 2 added trophies for there last dlc, but they were accidently in abled to be seen so months before its release it was confirmed. so sorry the idea that, that proves dawnguard isn't coming to ps3 is 100% wrong.

OK, so humor me, since the 1.7 patches for XBOX and PC had visible tie in properties/links to Dawnguard, prior to the release of the DLC itself, why would Bethesda HIDE said items for the PS3. Makes no sense unless they intentiionally want to PO people, Seems they'd want to leave these visible, so people would know it's really coming. Either they have no confidence they can get the DLC to work, or they intentionally left them out because including them might infer an obligation they could not or did not desire to keep.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:52 pm

Do you guys think I should buy Dawnguard for PC, instead of waiting for PS3 version? Because I have a good PC that can run Skyrim with high settings, but all my characters are on PS3, plus I play it on a 32' LCD TV and have a 7.1 sound system, which I don't have for PC. Plus, I'm a graphic/mods [censored] on PC, so I'll probably spend more time changing my visual settings and testing mods than actually playing the damn game (this pisses me off) What are your opinions on the matter? I'm on a dilemma here.

Mostly depends on what your priorities are. If playing new content in the ES world is what you want to do, go for it! still no word that PS3 will ever see it! If however your principles lean more to not supporting a company that is obviously being insensitve to their PS3 patrons, then don't buy it in any form. Kinda just depends on what's important to you...

I repeat again, no one from Bethesda has ever stepped up to the plate and said DLC WILL BE RELEASED for the PS3 ever since XBOX first got it. In fact Mr. Hines sconfirmed that they'd never announced for sure that it would! Course he didn't say it wouldn't either.... but there you are. Bethesda speaks nothingness, we be uncertain.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:59 pm

Thank you for the wise words, mr. Rexx. I shall buy it tomorrow (and hopefully wait for an announcement of the PS3 version in this 24h period XD).
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:01 pm

Lol So in waiting for Dawnguard for PS3 I just got the platinum Trophy for Skyrim. Wasnt even trying to get it, I'v just been playing for so long waiting for my DLC that I inadvertently got it. WOW
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:25 pm

I see this being post so much "Bethesda should just give us info"

No. That is not how it works. When Mass Effect fans want info from Bioware, Bioware will not give any info until they are ready to. When Call of Duty fans want info about COD from Treyarch, Treyarch does not give any info until they are ready to. The same goes on and on for every single game developer and every single group of fans. Fans will always beg and plead an demand info, and developers will always remain silent.

Bethesda is no different. Bethesda fans are no different. You are not being ignored, you are being treated with the same professional silence that the entire game industry treats customers. Please stop martyring yourselves, you are not victims. You are customers and you are being treated like customers. If you are willing to spend 60 dollars on video games, and countless hours on forums complaining about video games, then do yourself the service of learning about how and why the video game industry works the way it does.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:50 pm

I see this being post so much "Bethesda should just give us info"

No. That is not how it works. When Mass Effect fans want info from Bioware, Bioware will not give any info until they are ready to. When Call of Duty fans want info about COD from Treyarch, Treyarch does not give any info until they are ready to. The same goes on and on for every single game developer and every single group of fans. Fans will always beg and plead an demand info, and developers will always remain silent.

Bethesda is no different. Bethesda fans are no different. You are not being ignored, you are being treated with the same professional silence that the entire game industry treats customers. Please stop martyring yourselves, you are not victims. You are customers and you are being treated like customers. If you are willing to spend 60 dollars on video games, and countless hours on forums complaining about video games, then do yourself the service of learning about how and why the video game industry works the way it does.

Uh, Frank, since when does responding with "Professional silence" to customer inquiries or concerns about a their product constitute a good business practice? What do you find acceptable about this? If a customer is led to believe by advertising and other product hype that their purchase/ investment will be supported just like any other gaming platform, and then it does not appear in a timely fashion, well thas' fine, it's just the way it is. Wow, you are definitely one of Bethesda's type of customers! Spoken like a true member of the 1% !
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:37 pm

OK, so humor me, since the 1.7 patches for XBOX and PC had visible tie in properties/links to Dawnguard, prior to the release of the DLC itself, why would Bethesda HIDE said items for the PS3. Makes no sense unless they intentiionally want to PO people, Seems they'd want to leave these visible, so people would know it's really coming. Either they have no confidence they can get the DLC to work, or they intentionally left them out because including them might infer an obligation they could not or did not desire to keep.
my guess is because they don't know when they will be finished. it has make sense. the last Me2 dlc wasn't even annouced yet when the patch was released & accidently made them visble. so they had to rush the dlc out about 3 months earlier then they wanted.
or my other guess is they are waiting for patch 1.7 to get release worldwide first then give sony the ok to make the trophies visble.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:27 pm

People. Calm down. It's pretty obvious that Bethesda is barely working on it. Probably made some progress for the past days. The performance is fine on the PS3 since that last patch, which was 1.7. I'm pretty sure that damn excuse Bethesda is constantly giving us are false. They can't tell the truth. Think about it.
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I would expect the PS3 to get Dawnguard before anyone else gets the next DLC. They already told us the Xbox 360 was getting a timed exclusive for the next DLC, so obviously the whole things starts all over again anyway. Probably with the releases and delays being exactly the same.

The one or two programmers working on the PS3 version of Dawnguard probably have better things to do than do updates for fans, that hardly anyone would understand, better they continue working on Dawnguard. Bethesda told us it was not ready yet, that is probably all fans are going to hear on the subject till Dawnguard actually turns up on PSN. That they actually said anything about the delay, would mean the DLC is not getting here any time soon, otherwise they would have said nothing. Dawnguard was only released on the PC at the start of August, so for DLC that was never given a release date, even by the most optimistic expectation it is not that late yet. I would expect it to turn up some time next month, probably near the end of the month since the statement was not that optimistic.

Yes the DLC team would be working on something else, probably were a long time ago, you do not need an entire team just to port something to the PC and PS3.
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I would expect the PS3 to get Dawnguard before anyone else gets the next DLC. They already told us the Xbox 360 was getting a timed exclusive for the next DLC, so obviously the whole things starts all over again anyway. Probably with the releases and delays being exactly the same.

The one or two programmers working on the PS3 version of Dawnguard probably have better things to do than do updates for fans, that hardly anyone would understand, better they continue working on Dawnguard. Bethesda told us it was not ready yet, that is probably all fans are going to hear on the subject till Dawnguard actually turns up on PSN. That they actually said anything about the delay, would mean the DLC is not getting here any time soon, otherwise they would have said nothing. Dawnguard was only released on the PC at the start of August, so for DLC that was never given a release date, even by the most optimistic expectation it is not that late yet. I would expect it to turn up some time next month, probably near the end of the month since the statement was not that optimistic.

Yes the DLC team would be working on something else, probably were a long time ago, you do not need an entire team just to port something to the PC and PS3.
Finally you sir or ma'am are right on the money.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:50 pm

Simply because you've don't liked dawnguard at all or partially and you like to complain about that on a forum
However,that post wasn't referred to you,even if the other guy feels morally supported by your assertion

I enjoy the idea of dawnguard but it's full of freaking bugs. Don't assume to know who I am please, I am here because I am in support of the PS3 players as are a few other people who don't play on the PS3. Understand, if a bunch of people are upset at a company it has failed. For the entire purpose of the company is to ensure that the majority of users are satisfied. Regardless of whether or not you feel the customers are entitled to it or not, or whatever, they have still failed. Regardless of whether or not you believe people have the right to be upset or not, they will be upset. And who does that hurt if anyone? The company, minus the frustration of the rage quiters.

There is I have the right, and this is right.

You can have the right to do something, it doesn't make it practical in any way shape or form to do it necessarily just because you can. That is what this thread is about. A company that has repeatedly left PS3 people in the dark and filled with bugs, and people tired of it and contemplating quitting.

You don't need to tell people not to post certain things or simply just to quit or anything, they want to vent. This is essentially a venting thread in a desperate attempt to gather information. Every PS3 user here is upset. They are upset that they are always last, and simply for what system they chose to play Beths game on. There comes a point where pure civility will get nothing but polite half assed responses. As time goes on people are realizing this. The thread started out upset but more civil, what happened about a week ago? A bunch of essays about F you Bethesda. People got tired of waiting. If they just said wait 6 months then it would be something.

Also it's a bit weak to assume that regardless of my opinion on dawnguard that it would make me not understand something said?

Just because people have yet to pay does not make people any less of a customer, nor does it make them worth any less service or appreciation. Typically businesses like to make people feel better about themselves and use that to their advantage to buy their products, not slap them in the face knowing they'll buy it anyways.

Bethesda knows these people will buy. But the idea to give nothing more than a product is just dumb. Courtesy is always appreciated and keeps people happy when they come back. People say this wont affect PS3 sales by Bethesda, I already dropped the PS3. If I get anything from them it'll be from another system. With my computer most likely not being able to support dishonored and a 360 with the Red Ring it is probably gonna be a while before Bethesda continues to get my money. And with games like AC3 coming out, no need to rely on them.


In my opinion though Bethesda is releasing half assed products, not just to PS3, PS3 may be getting quarter assed products, but to everyone. If it's not the story, it's the bugs. Bugs bugs and more bugs. I'll say it again, not everyone gets them. But man oh man those who get them get them hard. Constant crashing, freezing, unable to equip items, unable to attack, backwards flying dragons? Spells not showing up or unable to be cast or equipped?

Forget the idea that beth can't code for PS3, they're kind of horrible at even coding for 360 and PC at this point. PC survives because of the modding community.



Just saying, this is the first game I've ever played that I made a comment on the forums of, or even visited the forums of that was single player. I've never played a single player game before with so many bugs honestly. I would get games sometimes day of, sometimes up to a month later. The bugs would be fixed by then by patches. And here we are still some 9 months later with a patch that actually made the game worse for some, and better for others. And this patch hasn't even been approved in Europe yet.

What I'm saying with all this really is, Bethesda needs to get its crap together in general. I love the idea of the games, but they sometimes just have that feel of a rushed product, a work in progress, an unfinished game. If Skyrim were the first open world sandbox then it'd be different, but it's not.

I have at times followed games that wern't going to be out for several years and it didn't bother me not knowing a release date or anything. They kept everyone in the loop of everything, we knew it would be years, and they let us know when the day was coming.

Bethesda just needs to take a step back, take a look at the whole picture, and step out of their money cage.



Not all of this was directed at you Cicero, it's a combination of you and just in general.

Yes it is a bunch of complaints, but it's not for the sake of complaining. I'm complaining because I know that they can do better and they choose not to. I'm complaining because Bethesda seems to have burned out their logic portion of their brain. They keep overestimating themselves and then dropping the ball when all eyes are on them.
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