[Jah Allen]

Finally! Someone on the same page as me!

From Day 1 I've been interested in the new weapons and the ability to craft arrows! That's all we want Bethesda (but make no mistake, I want the whole DLC sooner or later)!

[Andrew Lang]

They've said there working on it, multiple times this month to those who bother to pay attention rather then scream.

Wrong. Bethesda gave an official non-answer on August 2. Everything else we know has been from the personal twitter feed of some dude who despite his title seems little more than an over-paid functionary or essentially a repeat of the same previously mentioned non-answer from a mod here on the forums when they reopen a thread.

This knowledge would be apparent to people who wake-up and realize that they are white-knighting for a company that doesn't deserve it and also need to stop lumping all upset customers into the frothing at the mouth variety.

[Jordan Fletcher]

**thinking of selling his PS3 copy of Skyrim for $9 (according to a certain commercial that rents and states game stores offer said amount for used games) due to this whole fiasco**

Aaaaaaaaaaactually, not really. As I've said before. I understand folks being upset. Check. I understand the desire for info. Check. I understand the outrage. Check.. er.. wait. No. Uncheck..

DG will come to us when it is ready and there is nothing that can be said or done to make that time come any faster. Broiling hatred will not equal satisfaction and closure. In fact, it's been proven catharsis is actually bad for the human mind

[Bee Baby]

The only thing I want for Skyrim, but most certainly won't get, is mod support. It IS possible Bethesda. Take a look at Epic Games with Unreal Tournament 3 for PS3. Mod support AND the mods worked perfectly. All they did was release a conversion tool for their Creation Kit that compiled the PC mods into a single .DAT file which the user then put on the PS3 through a portable hard drive, iPod, PSP, etc. UT3 had a Community menu where you could scan your system for active mods, and even enable or disable whichever one. If I was a worker at Bethesda I'd be working on this as a personal project, then present it to them and say, "Hey guys, that Game Jam thing was cool and all, but look what I made..." and I would make damn sure it was put into the game. I mean, in my honest opinion, I would forget this Dawnguard thing ever happened if they dropped a fully-functional mod support patch on us. Who here wouldn't? People would play Skyrim forever, just as they do UT99 and UT2K4 alongside other timeless heavy-moddable game titles.

But now I'm rambling. Hopefully we get Dawnguard, and any other DLC released for PC and Xbox, but if we at least had mod support, we could make our own community made DLC, and you guys could sit back and watch people constantly buy your game to enjoy limitless gameplay.

In my fantasy world I imagined that you guys asked other devs for a bit of help. We all need help sometimes, no shame in it. Get Rockstar (Free-Roam GODS) to assist in optimizing the game better for PS3, and get Epic Games to help with the PC-to-PS3 mod capability.

Instant forgiveness? You got it.

Damnit I'm rambling again.

[kirsty joanne hines]

I left civility about two exits back. I'm avoiding Bethesda games like the plague from now on.

[brenden casey]

GSTAFF.....GIVE US AN UPDATE PLEASE!!! ITS BEEN A MONTH! THIS IS RIDICULOUS!

[Hilm Music]

I'm making a bet the only time we will ever see dawnguard is the GOTY edition. Cause wasn't 1.6/1.7 meant to have the trophies for dawnguard and they didn't. Beth wasn't planning on giving the ps3 skyrim dlc from the beginning.

[Nikki Hype]

I just think that it's ridiculous that we can't even get a Paragraph of an update on Bethblog! ITS BEEN A MONTH FOR GOD'S SAKE! JUST TAKE THE TIME TO CARE! DAMN IT!

[Kelly Osbourne Kelly]

Wrong. Bethesda gave an official non-answer on August 2. Everything else we know has been from the personal twitter feed of some dude who despite his title seems little more than an over-paid functionary or essentially a repeat of the same previously mentioned non-answer from a mod here on the forums when they reopen a thread.

Just because you don't like the answer still working on it doesn't mean they haven't said anything. Do you want to get an incorrect release date three or four times before we actually get the DLC. If they knew how long it take to solve the problems they'd be solved by now, thats how fixing problems in software works.

[Sandeep Khatkar]

I just think that it's ridiculous that we can't even get a Paragraph of an update on Bethblog! ITS BEEN A MONTH FOR GOD'S SAKE! JUST TAKE THE TIME TO CARE! DAMN IT!

I don't even want them to say a Paragraph I just want this. "You're not getting it" atleast they would have the courtasy to say it to our faces.

[Deon Knight]

First, i am as much annoyed as you all are. I to play on playstation and while I really stoped hoping that Dawnguard be relesed before GOTY, it doesn't mean that I will scream that you all should stop wanting it, your aditude sort of impress me, so sorry that I need to say that but pleass stop WHININING I understand why you do that but it dosesnt help in any way, let's show Bethesda that we are not just bunch of kids on sugar that cry because they want new toy
Second, sorry for my English, also I really don't want to insult anybody in here .

[mimi_lys]

I don't even want them to say a Paragraph I just want this. "You're not getting it" atleast they would have the courtasy to say it to our faces.

So you'd rather be told your never getting Dawnguard then "were still working on it" which has been said every few days either through twitter or say in the Hearthfire articles where they assure players the team working on hearthfire was independent of the one working on Dawnguard. I'm sorry "still working on it" isn't a good enough answer for you. But thats the only answer YOU are anyone is going get until the problems are solved.

I once spent hours trying to figure out why a laptop couldn't connect to the wireless network and every five minutes someone was whining how much longer. What they could never grasp was if I knew how long it take then I'd know what cause of the problem was and I'd be finished. Dawnguard is little different then that. If Bethesda knew how long it take them to finish they'd be just about done.

Would you prefer like they did it for Fallout 3 DLC throw out a release date every couple of weeks then miss it?

[Lizzie]

please i want dawnguard for my birthday sep 13 tho i doubt i get my wish but i hope you do grant it bethesda i dont care if there is some bugs in it i can overlook them. pls pls pls

[Wanda Maximoff]

So you'd rather be told your never getting Dawnguard then "were still working on it" which has been said every few days either through twitter or say in the Hearthfire articles where they assure players the team working on hearthfire was independent of the one working on Dawnguard. I'm sorry "still working on it" isn't a good enough answer for you. But thats the only answer YOU are anyone is going get until the problems are solved.

I once spent hours trying to figure out why a laptop couldn't connect to the wireless network and every five minutes someone was whining how much longer. What they could never grasp was if I knew how long it take then I'd know what cause of the problem was and I'd be finished. Dawnguard is little different then that. If Bethesda knew how long it take them to finish they'd be just about done.

Yes I would rather like to be told am not getting Dawnguard rather than we are working on it because seen as they haven't give out info in a month that says they haven't done anything to be working on it, zero progress. Also am stuck into my belief that the ps3 wasn't going to get the dlc anyway so agian I would like the courtesy of them coming out and saying it to my face. Looking at thier history with Oblivions dlc toward the ps3 I say my belief could become fact.

[Mylizards Dot com]

So you'd rather be told your never getting Dawnguard then "were still working on it" which has been said every few days either through twitter or say in the Hearthfire articles where they assure players the team working on hearthfire was independent of the one working on Dawnguard. I'm sorry "still working on it" isn't a good enough answer for you. But thats the only answer YOU are anyone is going get until the problems are solved.

I once spent hours trying to figure out why a laptop couldn't connect to the wireless network and every five minutes someone was whining how much longer. What they could never grasp was if I knew how long it take then I'd know what cause of the problem was and I'd be finished. Dawnguard is little different then that. If Bethesda knew how long it take them to finish they'd be just about done.

If the "We're still working on it" is just to keep people from boycotting Dishonored, and once that game drops they'll come out and say "We can't figure it out, so you're not getting it," then yes. I'd rather they just admit that we aren't getting it and be done with it. To be fair, if that is the case, I'd be doing the exact same thing they are now. I wouldn't admit it until I could ensure that the sales of another game at launch will be affected by this as little as possible.

Also, the whole thing about Dawnguard on the PS3 not being delayed because Hearthfire was developed by someone else isn't exactly true. They're different teams, but that's still splitting resources, having people code new content when they could be working on figuring out what's wrong with Dawnguard. Unless Hearthfire has no debugging team (which again, wouldn't surprise me if that was discovered to be the case) and those who would be debugging it are working on Dawnguard instead.

All in all, given their past behavior, the idea that Dawnguard has been delayed due to quality concerns on the PS3 seems a little disingenuous. Don't get me wrong, if they actually are working on making sure the game isn't unplayable when its released, good for them. I expect that in products I buy, but given their track record, it's hard for me to buy in to the idea that we're going to get a properly debugged game.

I'd rather know exactly how big the team working on Dawnguard on the PS3 is at this point. I don't suppose it's very big.

[Tyrel]

Lol ok [censored] it, I'm just going to illegally download Skyrim AND Dawnguard AND the creation kit on my computer now since you wont let me buy for my PS3, unless of course you WILL let me buy it for my PS3... You do know people can do that right Bethesda people? People CAN just take it for free off the internet no problem...3 hours of download time and they have it...free and clear.....each day you don't release it for PS3, that's another people who's stolen it from you...just saying.

[N Only WhiTe girl]

If the "We're still working on it" is just to keep people from boycotting Dishonored, and once that game drops they'll come out and say "We can't figure it out, so you're not getting it," then yes. I'd rather they just admit that we aren't getting it and be done with it. To be fair, if that is the case, I'd be doing the exact same thing they are now. I wouldn't admit it until I could ensure that the sales of another game at launch will be affected by this as little as possible.

Also, the whole thing about Dawnguard on the PS3 not being delayed because Hearthfire was developed by someone else isn't exactly true. They're different teams, but that's still splitting resources, having people code new content when they could be working on figuring out what's wrong with Dawnguard. Unless Hearthfire has no debugging team (which again, wouldn't surprise me if that was discovered to be the case) and those who would be debugging it are working on Dawnguard instead.

All in all, given their past behavior, the idea that Dawnguard has been delayed due to quality concerns on the PS3 seems a little disingenuous. Don't get me wrong, if they actually are working on making sure the game isn't unplayable when its released, good for them. I expect that in products I buy, but given their track record, it's hard for me to buy in to the idea that we're going to get a properly debugged game.

I'd rather know exactly how big the team working on Dawnguard on the PS3 is at this point. I don't suppose it's very big.

If thats the case then I finaly get to hear the magic words "You're not getting it" on the 25th or sometime after.

[Franko AlVarado]

Lol ok [censored] it, I'm just going to illegally download Skyrim AND Dawnguard AND the creation kit on my computer now since you wont let me buy for my PS3, unless of course you WILL let me buy it for my PS3... You do know people can do that right Bethesda people? People CAN just take it for free off the internet no problem...3 hours of download time and they have it...free and clear.....each day you don't release it for PS3, that's another people who's stolen it from you...just saying.

LOL you just gave yourself away to whiterun jail to you.

[Lilit Ager]

Just because you don't like the answer still working on it doesn't mean they haven't said anything. Do you want to get an incorrect release date three or four times before we actually get the DLC. If they knew how long it take to solve the problems they'd be solved by now, thats how fixing problems in software works.

Can you read?

Where have i asked for an exact release date? I have never asked for that. I have simply asked for the courtesy of being kept in the loop of whats happening. And being fed the same non-answer second-hand for over a month is NOT my definition of that.

I have personally stated more than once now that i am perfectly content to wait quietly and patiently for however long it takes for them to release DG, if they would just release some official REAL status reports. Shoot, i've even said point blank that i'd be fine if they cancelled it for PS3 as a standalone dlc and bundled it into a collection that will be available far off down the road. Just as long as they would just really say something.

How is any of what i have just stated out of the question in terms of a customer's request from a business?

Just because YOU personally are tired of some of my fellow PS3 customers going over the top does not invalidate the fact that while legally 'ok', what Bethesda is currently doing to a substantial portion of their clientele is morally ambiguous, at best. And i frankly don't care that others in the industry practice similar behavior, because we are here talking specifically about Bethesda and THEIR dlc Dawnguard; not so-and-so #'s 1, 2, 3, and 4 are doing.

[Louise]

LOL you just gave yourself away to whiterun jail to you.

lol "I submit, take me to jail"

Edit: But seriously, I mean I'v logged 800+ hours on my Skyrim. If i didn't have so many hours on my PS3 I would buy it for PC but I just have so much time in on my PS3 that I cant afford to because it'd be next year by the time I recreated all of my character's with all of there stories and re decorated all my homes.

[Sian Ennis]

They should have added different were-creatures yes.
no matter the fact that it's not true to the lore. For who would want to be a werewolf as an argonian or a werewolf as a khajiit?
I am saying that as a argonian you should be your race as were-creature, argonian is werecrocodile simple as that. khajiit werelion,
so it will make some sense to play as a were-creature as a beast race insted than just looking lika big dog when your race is a cat for example.


I'M NEW HERE....

Posted in wrong Thread...

[Ray]

They should have added different were-creatures yes.
no matter the fact that it's not true to the lore. For who would want to be a werewolf as an argonian or a werewolf as a khajiit?
I am saying that as a argonian you should be your race as were-creature, argonian is werecrocodile simple as that. khajiit werelion,
so it will make some sense to play as a were-creature as a beast race insted than just looking lika big dog when your race is a cat for example.


I'M NEW HERE....

Welcome to the forums.

[Isaiah Burdeau]

The rage continues...

Meanwhile, back in reality...

*breaking news*

It won't bring DG to PS3 any sooner. I admit, I check the forums and the web for news.. but at this point my main searches (here) are for new posts with folks asking new things or asking questions, or pitching new ideas.

The one thing I've always loved about TES is the lore. When I originally played Morrowind, I really wasn't interested in the lore or the lessons of Vivec. It wasn't even until after Oblivion that I did some research (since I was accustomed to it, being a psych major in college and doing endless papers) and discovered the plethora of intrigue for a universe that has such philosophical implecations for something as "trivial" as a game.

I will wait. I will not rage, debate, or cry. Nor will I boycott, ban, or threaten to burn. It is a game series; a damn great one at that. Call me a fan-boy, but essentially that's what we all are... otherwise these threads would not continue.

[Dominic Vaughan]

God, I've been trying to be patient (not that it has worked) but it's getting ridiculous. I watched a few videos of Dawnguard, and I WANT IT. Or I atleast want to know we won't get it so I can freaking watch videos and research lore without being subject to spoilers. COME ON BETHESDA.

[Catherine Harte]

If it was just a few people working on hearthfire then how did they get it done so fast, they probably haven't even been working on dawnguard..........too difficult......

Just catching up on my posting. It could have gotten done so fast, since it's (From what I understand) a whole lot smaller than DG is, and they would only need like 4 or 5 people to make it.

Also as stated in a post above, Complaining WILL NOT get it released any sooner. I want a chance to play it as well, but I mean there are a lot of other things to do in game. Also in regards to the post that says something along the lines of " This can be taken as we'll just give them our money even though they're making us wait, and treating us crappy" Well I hate to break the news, but most PS3 players on here WANT DG, which means they are willing to buy it, when it gets here.