PS3 Release for Dawnguard - Thread #23

Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:15 am

This is going to end exactly like Fallout: New Vegas.
They will just ignore PS3 users, come out with the next big new game (Fallout) and focus on that.
Skyrim will be left a broken mess.
When asked about patches or any kind of support, Gstaff will reply "All of our programmers have moved on to other projects" and that will be the end of it.
The easiest thing to do is just not buy anything with the Bethesda name on it again. They will either miss the money brought in by PS3 users and actually work on programming, or they will just go Microsoft/PC exclusive. They are halfway to exclusivity now anyway.

Unless they fix Skyrim within the next couple of weeks, I am done with Bethesda. Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Fallout: New Vegas all sit on my shelf collecting dust due to gamebreaking bugs that render the games unplayable. I feel as though I was shafted out of hundreds of dollars by a scum bag company and their lies. It could be said that it was my fault for trusting them when they said they fixed the PS3 issues, but I still feel shafted.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:15 am

I WONT BUY ANY BETHESDA GAMES ILL JUST LISTEN TO THE SKYRIM OST CAUSE THATS THE ONLY THING YOU GUYS PUT ON A LOT OF EFFORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:43 am

Lol!

[censored] Bethesda.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:11 pm

To be fair, I've got Oblivion, Fallout 3, FO:NV, and Skyrim all for the PS3, and I wouldn't consider any of them to be outright broken. Yes, there are too many annoying bugs, and a few quests have gotten glitched up on me, and I know the games should be coded better. Despite all this I've never had a 'gamebreaking' bug on any Bethesda PS3 game that outright prevented me from finishing the main story or playing a character how I wanted to play it.

This Skyrim DLC ordeal is souring my opinion of Bethesda, but I've been overall content with their past PS3 games.



I do really want this DLC though. Skyrim is a great game, but at this point I feel that I've experienced almost everything the base game has to offer and I'd love to have this extra content to enrich the game and give me reasons to create another character or start playing some of my old ones again. There is only so long that I'll be willing to sit around and wait on this stuff though. Once I put Skyrim away on the shelf, the likelihood of me coming back later on to buy up any DLC and play it is pretty small.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:24 am

Wow Bethesda . . .I waited for a year to get the Vile Lair for Oblivon in the PS3 and I never got it. Now Dawnguard, the BEST DLC( at least for me), is planned to be released for the PS3 and all of the sudden you may not possibly release it?

Just patch in vampire's seduction feeding and the face changer, dragonborn weapons and Lycanthropy perk tree. That is the LEAST you could do.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:15 pm

Bethesda needs someone who will be much better at telling us what is going on. Someone that will give us updates instead of re-hashing the same line once a month.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:26 am

Microsoft =Aldmeri Dominion Bethesda=Empire/Imperial Army Sony=Stormcloaks :deal: :whisper:
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:32 am

Bethesda, people would be more accepting if you kept us updated. It's been, what, three months? And we've only had one 'official' update. I hope they can start keeping us filled in.
Last post by Gstaff about this was seven days ago.
I didn't say "no progress has been made." I was just letting you guys know that the statement from the end of August still applies. Specifically, this:



The team is still working on things and we're also working with Sony to see what's possible. If there's more to share, I'll let you guys know.

Thanks.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:52 am

I''m sorry but that answer still sounds a bit too vague. Like Beth's giving themselves wiggle room when PS3 receives something that's not what we expect.

Hell, that statement could mean 'working with Sony to see what's possible in terms of damage control'...

Hmmmm....

I still reckon the plug'll get pulled on PS3 support next month.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:50 am

You know what i think, i think Dawnguard or any DLC is not coming for Ps3 at all, and Todd COWARD and the rest of Bethesda is stalling and planning away to break the bad news to all the ps3 players. Its either that or Bethesda made an evil deal with Microsoft to screw all the ps3 players and force some of them to transfer to Xbox 360!! Not me Todd Coward!!! Not Me!!!! curse you an your Lies!!!!!
actually it is being released if you'd pay attention to blog updates Sony is having a team assist them they just don't want another problem that was similar to people spamming the tech support area with "my game does not work fix fix fix" and then starting flaming and vulgar posts as per last December, personally i think the new generation of gamers are spoiled rotten thinking 70$ entitles them to have whatever grand dillusions and whims made real, they said they're releasing it sit tight and stop complaining.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:12 pm

We're entitled to complain when we're being treated as third rate.

I agree there's no need to start flaming and swearing but still we're entitled to complain.

I hope you're not trying to start a console war with that last comment?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:05 am

It's time for everyone to except the fact Beth is not going to give details as to what is going on, they told you there is a issue and that their working on it with Sony. You can carry on about how you have the right to detail's but the truth you don't, You know there is problem and it's keeping them from releasing DG to ps3 plain and simple. Beth as told us only what they feel we need to know not what we want to know.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:10 pm

I dont get why bethesda are working so hard on bringing dawnguard to the ps3. surely the should concentrate on hearthfire i means its probably a way smaller file and less problems would occur

Typically customization options can take up alot of room and hearthfire is simply, customization. It is simply adding a heck of alot more items which are part of the problem.

Dawnguard is the current issue so they'll tackle that first.

And, they work in teams.

The dawnguard team will not be involved in the hearthfire team much if at all most likely. They will be two separate teams getting done what needs to be done.

Just like how a big business has a support team, a planning team, the grunts, so on. Beth has there's split by different projects.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:05 am

"Beth has told us only what they feel we need to know"

If I went for a night out and the Mrs asked me what I'd been up to and I told her I'd only tell her what I thought she needed to know I'd be opening myself up to all manner of fresh hells!
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:50 am

actually it is being released if you'd pay attention to blog updates Sony is having a team assist them they just don't want another problem that was similar to people spamming the tech support area with "my game does not work fix fix fix" and then starting flaming and vulgar posts as per last December, personally i think the new generation of gamers are spoiled rotten thinking 70$ entitles them to have whatever grand dillusions and whims made real, they said they're releasing it sit tight and stop complaining. Also would like to add most of delays i can bet come from PS3's crappy bluray system, personally i like redray (HD) as even though it doesnt store tons like bluray it doesn't take so long I can make a steamer bowel of rice while waiting for a load screen.

If you look at some of the products released to PS3 then the comments would be.... quite justified...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3gWvxHWFuI&list=FLGgIFD9fHgmYNEyg2ejx0-g&index=3&feature=plpp_video

Someone posted that vid up a while ago and it shows how bad they'll let things get for a release.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:41 am

We're entitled to complain when we're being treated as third rate.

I agree there's no need to start flaming and swearing but still we're entitled to complain.

I hope you're not trying to start a console war with that last comment?
im stating a fact by statistics and the fact that bluray isn't the "best used video watching device anymore" kinda thing theres a reason why allot of people prefer HDD over it, and no im not starting a console war why would I, I own every form of console available 360,ps3,wii,etc. But yeah it's probably the bluray system causing most of the problems probably what caused the 35mb save file problems on launch...
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:35 am

Well after seeing the commercial for the new assassins creed, I think I am going to buy all the assassins creeds after 2, so odds are, so long bethesda, I'll see you never get my money for a playstation game.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:00 pm

but what it looks like dlc for ps3
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:07 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKNRfMyjcVo

Oh I hate you. That episode always makes me well up. Futurama is awesome and I'm assuming you're a fan because only a fan knows how touching that episode was :cry:

I've just started this myself. The combat is better. It has everything Skyrim has. I don't like tha artwork as well, it's more fantasy-like, but I'm getting used to it. Best of all, it runs GREAT! I really like it. There is a good sized demo you can download free from PSN. that will help you decide.

It's a shame that Curt Schilling bit off more than he could chew with his company, because that is a good game. Too big of a game though to attract a new fanbase, they should have worked on something a bit smaller or proposed to a larger company for financial backing.

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personally i like redray (HD) as even though it doesnt store tons like bluray it doesn't take so long I can make a steamer bowel of rice while waiting for a load screen.

Yet the average load times on PS3's version is about 75% of that of XBox's. And we all know that the BRD in the PS3 is only a 2x, which is a notch above entry level devices.

im stating a fact by statistics and the fact that bluray isn't the "best used video watching device anymore" kinda thing theres a reason why allot of people prefer HDD over it, and no im not starting a console war why would I, I own every form of console available 360,ps3,wii,etc. But yeah it's probably the bluray system causing most of the problems probably what caused the 35mb save file problems on launch...

1. What facts from what statistics?
2. If more people prefered it, then why did the largest backer of HD DVD format stop making those devices 3 years ago shortly after Netflix and Blockbuster removed them for their catalogues? What about some of the world's largest retailers dropping it from their stores? I'm no business major, but it would seem to me that if the demand were greater for HD DVD, that those stores would still have them and a company like Toshiba would still be making HD DVD devices instead of Bluray devices.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:33 am

Yet the average load times on PS3's version is about 75% of that of XBox's. And we all know that the BRD in the PS3 is only a 2x, which is a notch above entry level devices.



1. What facts from what statistics?
2. If more people prefered it, then why did the largest backer of HD DVD format stop making those devices 3 years ago shortly after Netflix and Blockbuster removed them for their catalogues? What about some of the world's largest retailers dropping it from their stores? I'm no business major, but it would seem to me that if the demand were greater for HD DVD, that those stores would still have them and a company like Toshiba would still be making HD DVD devices instead of Bluray devices.
I believe he's talking about Hard Disk Drive storage not, HD DVD the betamax of the 21st century. Hard disk drive storage is actually better then disk reading the issue is its much more expensive then a disk for a tiny fraction of the storage capacity.

However the idea he has that Bluray caused save bloating is unfounded.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:19 am

Late-ish reply sorry,


actually it is being released if you'd pay attention to blog updates Sony is having a team assist them they just don't want another problem that was similar to people spamming the tech support area with "my game does not work fix fix fix" and then starting flaming and vulgar posts as per last December, personally i think the new generation of gamers are spoiled rotten thinking 70$ entitles them to have whatever grand dillusions and whims made real, they said they're releasing it sit tight and stop complaining. Also would like to add most of delays i can bet come from PS3's crappy bluray system, personally i like redray (HD) as even though it doesnt store tons like bluray it doesn't take so long I can make a steamer bowel of rice while waiting for a load screen.
It's time for everyone to except the fact Beth is not going to give details as to what is going on, they told you there is a issue and that their working on it with Sony. You can carry on about how you have the right to detail's but the truth you don't, You know there is problem and it's keeping them from releasing DG to ps3 plain and simple. Beth as told us only what they feel we need to know not what we want to know.

It is 2012, almost 2013, the pervasive mindset that i see in the two quoted posts and about the net in general just doesn't fly anymore. Not if you want to to maintain the trust of your customers in your brand. IF it were still the mid-90's or even early '00's, i think Bethesda's current business stratagem(in particular giving the barest of information and repeating it ad nausea) would not be in question. Customers as a whole are just much more inclined to require information about the products/services they want now a days.

Complete transparency is never going to happen in business. I personally think that's fine, customers don't need to know everything. But as situations like this DLC issue on PS3 drag on, considerations need to be made by the Bethesda top-brass to give customers more to go on. "We are working hard," was barely tolerable to start with; it is beyond inadequate as the days turn into weeks and the weeks become months.

At this point there is usually the, "Why would a company give out their trade secrets?" I reply with, who's asking for trade secrets? A line by line break-down of the game code paired with a detailed point by point plan of action isn't what ppl are asking for. "We are X% through our initial eval of the problem," "Tried a new solution this week, will fill every one in on the result after full set of tests," etc; you know? Actual status reports that would take at most 5 min to type into a pre-formatted company press release form. And not talking a daily thing here, weekly or bi-weekly would be more than sufficient.

Again, ANYTHING would be better than a post every month that continually leaves customers in the dark, backed up by non-answer tweets on a personal twitter feed.

Of course we all wouldn't be here if Bethesda had just diffused the situation before it blew up in their face. And by that i mean an official statement(not a tweet...) saying that the PS3 version of Dawnguard would be delayed do to tech issues. I know what you are thinking, 'Isn't that what they've done?'. Well yes they did, but only after months of shady silence where ppl had only their own suppositions to go on.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:10 pm

I believe he's talking about Hard Disk Drive storage not, HD DVD the betamax of the 21st century. Hard disk drive storage is actually better then disk reading the issue is its much more expensive then a disk for a tiny fraction of the storage capacity.

However the idea he has that Bluray caused save bloating is unfounded.

Ahh I see. Then yes, I would love to have HDD storage. The Bluray causing bloating comment really had me confused.

This is why acronyms are bad LOL (Liking Ollies Lollipop)

Then again, he did mention the redray stuff...which as we all know has nothing to do with hard drives.

I'm just really confused about what they were trying to say.

ASAT! (Acronyms svck At Times)
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:49 pm

I believe he's talking about Hard Disk Drive storage not, HD DVD the betamax of the 21st century. Hard disk drive storage is actually better then disk reading the issue is its much more expensive then a disk for a tiny fraction of the storage capacity.

However the idea he has that Bluray caused save bloating is unfounded.
yes HDD as in Hard Disk Storage which 360 uses and its more efficient, quicker load times and less chance of memory leak and problems....
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:27 am

yes HDD as in Hard Disk Storage which 360 uses and its more efficient, quicker load times and less chance of memory leak and problems....

and yet again, the PS3 has faster loading times on Skyrim than Xbox.

So what's your point already?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:49 am

and yet again, the PS3 has faster loading times on Skyrim than Xbox.

So what's your point already?

*taps fingers while testing this out* well my ps3 just took a whole 43 seconds while my old 360 from launch just took 15 seconds, also just to state, its been proven bluray is slow as heck for pulling information off the discs.
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