PS3 Release for Dawnguard - Thread #30

Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:52 pm

Vanilla Skyrim only barely works for a lot of PS3 users. Mine constantly freezes up. I tried to start a new file the other day, to try and play without it bugging out on me, but Alduin never landed on the tower in Helgen. He just flew circles overhead, and it happened every time I restarted the game.

I've only seen Pete Hines post that he plays Skyrim on his 360. He must use his PS3 for playing other companies games. You know, because Bethesda is obviously capable of creating a stable PS3 game.
LOL that happened to me on Nov 11th, at around 1:00am, my very first 10 minutes of the game! I actually sat there for about 15 minutes watching it expecting something to happen!
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:26 am

LOL that happened to me on Nov 11th, at around 1:00am, my very first 10 minutes of the game! I actually sat there for about 15 minutes watching it expecting something to happen!
I wasn't even using the quicksave from when I first played Skyrim, either. This was a brand new file after the latest patch.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:43 pm

Approaching November now. Soon December will be right around the corner then January.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:39 am

As I've said many times: Skyrim was fine for many, many PS3 users. Is fine. I know at least five people who play Skyrim on PS3, and none of them have any problems. While I sympathise with those who have experienced or are experiencing problems, saying that Bethesda has no right to sell this 'broken product' is simply untrue. Skyrim works very well in many cases.

Approaching November now. Soon December will be right around the corner then January.

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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:07 pm

Its like a train-wreck at this point. A train-wreck happening in slow motion and i just can't take my eyes off of it.

http://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/261854805134286848 that Hines is prolly wishing he never amswered lol.


EDIT: Well dang it, they cut all the meat out of it just now. Been refreshing that tweet all day and more and more ppl chimed in.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:01 pm

As I've said many times: Skyrim was fine for many, many PS3 users. Is fine. I know at least five people who play Skyrim on PS3, and none of them have any problems. While I sympathise with those who have experienced or are experiencing problems, saying that Bethesda has no right to sell this 'broken product' is simply untrue. Skyrim works very well in many cases.



Introducing NYDominican, the human calendar! ;)
look we will never know unless someone has a study on it I mean 6/7 of my friends have had major game-breaking problems with skyrim 5/7 have sworn to never buy a Beth product again and the 1 guy who has had no "problems" isn't going to buy the dlc because he got bored and watched gameplays of them
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:36 am

Still no dawnguardi update or anything. but Assassin's Creed 3 is just around the corner :D
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:01 pm

Still no dawnguardi update or anything. but Assassin's Creed 3 is just around the corner :D
yup I preordered on psn anyone know If the game is supposed to pre-download like steam or I have to download on Tuesday
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:52 pm

Only like to inform you i gave away all of my bethesda games and threw skyrim in the garbage. I will never buy a bethesda game anymore, i was planning on buying dishonered but save my money.
I hope you guys manage to get the dlc right for the few that still want it and wish you good luck!
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:27 pm

I'm sorry Gstaff. I know that you aren't one of the programmers or anything like that, but I hope you (and Pete Hines, since he's the other person who continually says nothing's changed) understand what it means to consumers when you say that nothing has changed after nearly two months of working with Sony on this. It doesn't really inspire much confidence when you guys haven't been able to at least make some progress that you can actually talk about during all this time.

And while I'm sure you can't answer this, I'm going to ask anyway: How big is the team of people working on this (how many from Bethesda versus how many from Sony)? I don't know what the composition of your entire staff is, but maybe you'd have more luck resolving this within a year of the game's release if you dedicated more resources to it. Again, I'm speculating because I have no way of knowing how many people you have working on this, but the fact that you guys haven't been able to give an actual update since August suggests the number is low.

Also, how many people do you guys have working on patches at this point?

Again, I'm sorry that you get blamed for this mess when you're just the messenger, but people have gotten really tired of just seeing you or Hines post that there's nothing new to say.
I agree. Even if the update was that they had made some progress but it will still take a while, it would be better than what we're getting.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:59 pm

I'm sorry Gstaff. I know that you aren't one of the programmers or anything like that, but I hope you (and Pete Hines, since he's the other person who continually says nothing's changed) understand what it means to consumers when you say that nothing has changed after nearly two months of working with Sony on this. It doesn't really inspire much confidence when you guys haven't been able to at least make some progress that you can actually talk about during all this time.

And while I'm sure you can't answer this, I'm going to ask anyway: How big is the team of people working on this (how many from Bethesda versus how many from Sony)? I don't know what the composition of your entire staff is, but maybe you'd have more luck resolving this within a year of the game's release if you dedicated more resources to it. Again, I'm speculating because I have no way of knowing how many people you have working on this, but the fact that you guys haven't been able to give an actual update since August suggests the number is low.

Also, how many people do you guys have working on patches at this point?

Again, I'm sorry that you get blamed for this mess when you're just the messenger, but people have gotten really tired of just seeing you or Hines post that there's nothing new to say.


Bethesda staff is most likely 100+ people and that's all departments combined there are very few game companies that break 200 people for a staff. You can call that low if you want to but that's how things are whether you like it or not.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:47 pm

Not trying to patronize you guys. I just can't share new details if there's nothing new to share. We are working on PS3 stuff (as is the case with PC and 360), and when there's a full update I can share, it'll be here in the forums, on the blog, and anywhere else i can share it.

And exactly at what point in time has there been shared any news? "Still working on it" isn't really news of any sort, so as far as I see it anything you could say besides that would be news to us. Just saying.

I am still thinking it couldn't be so hard to release a list of problems you have found and are trying to fix and then once every 7-14 days you could update it.
Don't tell me the people who are fixing the problems don't have a list, if you did I would incline the top brass to fire the fools because then they will never fix the problems because then they don't know what they should fix.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:49 pm

I have had Skyrim since release. It works Great. I did have my first save file get deleted randomly and i was a victim of the Markarth Gaurd Attacks (which benefited me later on actually) But after a few updates its been running smooth. The reason we PS3 players are getting more and more Negative is because of the lack of progress. Although most of us would be upset if it didnt run 'right' we would be glad to be able to play these DLC's as long you folks worked on updates and to Fix the issues or we would simply play around them. Keeping your customers in the dark doesnt foster good relations and honestly... I like dishonored, i even want to get it but i refuse. I dont see the point of laying out the money for another game thats going to have issues with the PS3. You can claim it wont but seriously you have been working with Sony on this even... As people have stated before let us in on whats going. Who knows maybe amateur coders could even help re-code the game.... We can supply ideas... Let us be part of the fix to our game and the PS3 community would thank you and possibly even have your sales in the PS3 category pick up.... unless of course Bethesda is moving towards an exclusivity with Microsoft... (Exactly how the Ace Combat Series got messed up 'Unrelated but relevant') And as someone stated let us have these DLC's at a reduced price. We have been waiting patiently for months now. And Im certainly NOT going to spend money on Xbox 360 Xbox Live and re buy all my non PS3 exclusives and have to put up with Whiny 7 year olds to boot... Let us in on the progress is all im trying to say Make a list and Check it off when it gets completed Or heres a Novel idea... Apply your entire Workforce to this problem get it out the door to us and then you will be able to free up those Men and Women to work on other projects. Maybe im just droning on and on but im frustrated and i know atleast five people in my community that are as well! We want answers not excuses! You are the Messenger and we cant really shoot you but Direct those in power above you to us and lets have a chat with them.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:26 pm

Maybe the solution would be to hand the game over to 4J again like they did with Oblivion.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:57 am

Maybe the solution would be to hand the game over to 4J again like they did with Oblivion.
not really there kind of stuck they made their game engine like this with no respect given for the ps3 and because this is a engine issue they would need to completely re-code their engine which would take a really long time I have no idea what there doing but it probably will not help
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:01 am

not really there kind of stuck they made their game engine like this with no respect given for the ps3 and because this is a engine issue they would need to completely re-code their engine which would take a really long time I have no idea what there doing but it probably will not help
couldnt they hire 4j to re port the game to ps3, wouldent that help some of the issues it has.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:17 pm

couldnt they hire 4j to re port the game to ps3, wouldent that help some of the issues it has.

Yes they could hire another 3rd party to tackle this, but Bethesda seems more concerned with economics than repairing the game and consequently their public relations. 4J might be available to do it, but don't you think their price would rise simply because they know Bethesda is in a world of hurt? That and their professional egos seem to dictate, "WE ARE IN CONTROL OF THIS MINE, NO SUDDEN MOVES !". Also explains why they are partnering with SONY to sus a solution, as their rep is damaged by the association to some extent as well. Certainly they don't want people jumping over to XBOX because of Bethesda's failure, and they know this is really happening. Then theres all the future Bethesda games that now won't sell as well because of this fiasco.

Re-coding the game specifically for the PS3 will take a significant amount of time, this is why I believe, the most feasible solution is a version 2.0 GOTY with DLC inclusive. That means they have to finish up the third and largest DLC, and then look at fitting it all onto a Blu-Ray. If they can get this all together by April 2013 I'd be happy. If it shows up before XMAS you can bet I'd be wary of it being a true fix.

As much as we'd like a quick solution it probably isn't in the cards. It would be nice is Bethesda actually acknowledged what their plan really is though. Somebody up there knows, certainly Todd Howard does. Why isn't the gamers media hitting him up on this?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:15 pm



Yes they could hire another 3rd party to tackle this, but Bethesda seems more concerned with economics than repairing the game and consequently their public relations. 4J might be available to do it, but don't you think their price would rise simply because they know Bethesda is in a world of hurt? That and their professional egos seem to dictate, "WE ARE IN CONTROL OF THIS MINE, NO SUDDEN MOVES !". Also explains why they are partnering with SONY to sus a solution, as their rep is damaged by the association to some extent as well. Certainly they don't want people jumping over to XBOX because of Bethesda's failure, and they know this is really happening. Then theres all the future Bethesda games that now won't sell as well because of this fiasco.

Re-coding the game specifically for the PS3 will take a significant amount of time, this is why I believe, the most feasible solution is a version 2.0 GOTY with DLC inclusive. That means they have to finish up the third and largest DLC, and then look at fitting it all onto a Blu-Ray. If they can get this all together by April 2013 I'd be happy. If it shows up before XMAS you can bet I'd be wary of it being a true fix.

As much as we'd like a quick solution it probably isn't in the cards. It would be nice is Bethesda actually acknowledged what their plan really is though. Somebody up there knows, certainly Todd Howard does. Why isn't the gamers media hitting him up on this?

If they could recode the game and release all the dlc on disc with the game for LESS than 45 bucks. I would consider re-purchasing the game.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:30 am

As I've said many times: Skyrim was fine for many, many PS3 users.
Should've seen the [censored] storm last November.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:13 pm

Thread #30.
This is going places.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:22 pm

Keep the pressure on them and they will eventually either tell us or simply say the hell with it and just go for the xbox and PC versions... But Im gonna go with the first one :smile:

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Another Idea that just hit me is this Bethesda: Instead of making the game for the Xbox then porting it to us. Make it for the Playstation 3 and Port it to them. Give them a Taste of how it feels to be ripped off... PC is the better choice but i prefer Games like this to be played on a console.... It feels more... natural. Either way Next time try to make it to the more powerful of the two consoles first.... If it cant be ported then simply recode the game to the Xbox version in doing so you'll dull the graphics so the Xbox can handle the game. (As what has happened to the PS3 which is why most people say they look the same.)
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:24 pm

Keep the pressure on them and they will eventually either tell us or simply say the hell with it and just go for the xbox and PC versions... But Im gonna go with the first one :smile:

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Another Idea that just hit me is this Bethesda: Instead of making the game for the Xbox then porting it to us. Make it for the Playstation 3 and Port it to them. Give them a Taste of how it feels to be ripped off... PC is the better choice but i prefer Games like this to be played on a console.... It feels more... natural. Either way Next time try to make it to the more powerful of the two consoles first.... If it cant be ported then simply recode the game to the Xbox version in doing so you'll dull the graphics so the Xbox can handle the game. (As what has happened to the PS3 which is why most people say they look the same.)

They port from the Xbox do to cost its cheaper to port from the Xbox to the PS3 then to go the other way around. Most Multi-platform games are done this way currently. Final Fantasy 13 and 13-2 is just one of the small handful of games that were ported from PS3 to Xbox 360, with all others its Xbox to PS3.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:55 pm

Ofcourse... but again it would solve alot of problems... besides better quality will = better sales....
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:43 pm

Unless Bethesda has something up their sleeve (and Sony has pinpointed what the problem is and how to fix it) IMO, it's looking more likely that DLC for the PS3 won't be released (if ever) until Jan 2013.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:32 am

Ofcourse... but again it would solve alot of problems... besides better quality will = better sales....

Either way won't happen Bethesda and Microsoft got a long term relationship similar to SE and Sony. I would not except SE to shift from Sony to Microsoft so I don't expect Bethesda to shift either its highly unlikely.
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