PS3 Release for Dawnguard - Thread #31

Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:56 pm

It's the PS3 dude. I mean look at the huge library of games available for it. None of those other games suffer what Skyrim has. Why is it only Skyrim, Fallout, Bethesda? Come on man!! Think !!

It's a split situation.The PS3 doesn't have enough memory to this engine and how it handles save games and in my opinion Bethesda should just made something that would reset all the objects to their original positions after two or three days in game.Avoid messing with the house objects but everything else just reset so it didn't have to keep track of so many stuff. PS3 does have a problem memory wise though and i'm actually baffled how this game passed QA on both Bethesda side and Sony side. And wasn't Bethesda working with Sony directly trying to solve this?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:12 pm

Would've thought Bethesda would comment on the possibility of Hearthfire at least being released on PS3, or an update on Dawnguard for PS3 before announcing another DLC.

A lot of people keep assuming since Hearthfire is 'smaller' it would be easier to implement on the PS3. When you think on what that DLC is about, i have to say imo i'd think it would be the harder of the two currently available to get going.

Up to three new fixed locus, essentially small towns, added to the game. Each replete with npc's, random interactions between said npc's, random attacks, inventories that have to be tracked, etc. Of course its just my opinion, but i wouldn't be surprised if HF cause as much, if not more, strain on the 'all new game engine' than Dawnguard.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:03 pm

Anyone care to place bets on whether or not this DLC will be announced for the PS3 at the same time as the others or if it'll just be 360 and PC until further notice?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:12 am

Anyone care to place bets on whether or not this DLC will be announced for the PS3 at the same time as the others or if it'll just be 360 and PC until further notice?
I'm willing to bet it will be just 360 and PC until further notice. But we may get this DLC since it is supposedly in a separate world from Skyrim.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:31 am

It's a split situation.The PS3 doesn't have enough memory to this engine and how it handles save games and in my opinion Bethesda should just made something that would reset all the objects to their original positions after two or three days in game.Avoid messing with the house objects but everything else just reset so it didn't have to keep track of so many stuff. PS3 does have a problem memory wise though and i'm actually baffled how this game passed QA on both Bethesda side and Sony side. And wasn't Bethesda working with Sony directly trying to solve this?

Haven't seen it since Morrowind, but a 'dispose of body' button would have worked wonders in Skyrim. Just mucking about a while back, i found there are still dead Stormcloak bodies in Helgen Keep on one of my save games. Still! And i have hundreds of game days elapsed. There is no reason the game should be tracking stuff like that from the first 20 min of gameplay.

With a 'dispose of body' button, some of the detritus that builds up ingame could be manually flushed from time to time. Like emptying the trash, with corpses being the trashbags.

Anyone care to place bets on whether or not this DLC will be announced for the PS3 at the same time as the others or if it'll just be 360 and PC until further notice?

Too rich for my blood.

I would be willing to guess there is a 50/50 chance this threads is closed for at least a bit if the statement says what i think it will...

EDIT: And a bit of positivity from me for once-It could be that Bethesda higher-ups have decided that letting some content from DG and HF be directly patched into PS3 clients through some process in this new DLC. That happens to be ready for PS3 platforms as well.

Well i can dream anyways...
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:39 pm

._. thier...already...annouceing an other dlc..brb faceplaming.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:47 pm

Haven't seen it since Morrowind, but a 'dispose of body' button would have worked wonders in Skyrim. Just mucking about a while back, i found there are still dead Stormcloak bodies in Helgen Keep on one of my save games. Still! And i have hundreds of game days elapsed. There is no reason the game should be tracking stuff like that from the first 20 min of gameplay.

With a 'dispose of body' button, some of the detritus that builds up ingame could be manually flushed from time to time. Like emptying the trash, with corpses being the trashbags.



Too rich for my blood.

I would be willing to guess there is a 50/50 chance this threads is closed for at least a bit if the statement says what i think it will...

EDIT: And a bit of positivity from me for once-It could be that Bethesda higher-ups have decided that letting some content from DG and HF be directly patched into PS3 clients through some process in this new DLC. That happens to be ready for PS3 platforms as well.

Well i can dream anyways...
I wonder what they would charge for such a miracle? Parts of 2 DLC + Dragonborn...gotto be more than the $20 they have been charging, right?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:41 pm

Well if the announcement of the third dlc doesn't give any indication of when we can expect DG and HF then Bethesda will be burning all their bridges.
A lot of people, myself included, got extremely upset when they announced Hearthfire before fixing Dawnguard and if they are now going to announce the third one and still give no word on neither DG or HF or even IF we can expect to get the new one, then there will be a ragestorm of unheard proportions I think.

I truly believe that we will see another ragestorm soon but in my heart I hope Bethesda proves me wrong on this one.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:58 pm

I wonder what they would charge for such a miracle? Parts of 2 DLC + Dragonborn...gotto be more than the $20 they have been charging, right?

I wouldn't even try and hazard a guess.

But by content i meant stuff like i been moaning about getting forever. Ammo crating, crossbows, etc; stuff like an item pack of sorts. I mean since if all that data-mining is to be believed(and i still take all of that info with multiple grains of salt), other stuff like spears are getting added. why not just use the opportunity to drop that other stuff in as well.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:19 pm

I wonder what the PS3 situation with the other DLC is exactly at, at this point. They should give a status report and finally tell us if there is even a possible way to fix the situation and how they're going about solving the problem. Giving us vague status updates for several months is utterly annoying and the wait is brutal.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:39 am

I wonder what the PS3 situation with the other DLC is exactly at, at this point. They should give a status report and finally tell us if there is even a possible way to fix the situation and how they're going about solving the problem. Giving us vague status updates for several months is utterly annoying and the wait is brutal.

I'm finding other games to fill my time, with Okami HD downloading, and AC3/Liberation in my PS3/Vita, I may never buy the dlc.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:56 pm

any news all?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:34 am

any news all?
Any news all?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:05 pm

This makes me 'almost' as disappointed as when Square-Enix cancelled project Final Fantasy Versus XIII without announcing it's cancellation, & they announced this game six years ago. Dawnguard for PS3 doesn't seem that possible anymore, it's been delayed too long.... with Bethesda saying from month to month that they don't have the performance that they're looking for.

I honestly didn't even know the game was cancelled. Too bad, a kingdom hearts mechanic like final fantasy game would be awesome.

No. Even if dlc arrived tomorrow, I would still urge all ps3 owners to wait for reviews and player opinions. Don't let them New Vegas you're azz.....If they haven't already.

I do urge people to keep off from it initially as well. Not to lower prices or anything but DLC has completely destroyed, and I mean dropped your game down to 0.01 frames a second destroyed peoples games on PS3 before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3gWvxHWFuI&list=FLGgIFD9fHgmYNEyg2ejx0-g&index=25&feature=plpp_video

Thats your example right there of the potential damage of DLC to your base game.

The game has gamebreaking bugs for some, annoying bugs for others, and perfect playthroughs for others as well.

Most likely there will be issues for the dawnguard DLC, especially seeing how long it's taking to release it if it is even released at all.
Just make sure your game doesn't look like the above video before you buy it. I hear that problem up there still isn't fixed, they abandoned it.

Skyrim will cause more of an uproar I think because it's grabbed the attention of alot of newcomers and such, so any issues they create will have alot more repercussion.




Anyone with extra money, to kill time for DG, I suggest AC3 xD

The game was fun with a great story, Great voice acting, side quests weren't boring, and when you're done with all that you have multiplayer.

My personal experience, very little lag (nothing like skyrim on PS3), not a single crash while playing for hours straight. Not ever a crash, and no bugs at all. I had no problems through the entire game.

I hear some people had bugs, I personally didn't.


If you like any exploration, adventure, or action, you'd probably like AC3. It's got a nice big environment to run around in and plenty of trees to hide in, and animals to assassinate to steal their fur and meat xD
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:44 pm

New DLC is important for them to keep people playing and paying. We all seem to want two things, but we keep talking about it as one thing:

1) A Stable Skyrim
2) DLC

DLC for them is good for us, as long as they are continuing to release patches for a more stable skyrim, and they are working on getting PS3 the DLC.

Faster would always be better, but communication and patches are enough--for now.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:54 pm

Here's an article on the Dawnguard for PS3 (kinda).

I'm sorry if this was posted already but I didn't have time to read through the rest of the thread.

http://www.product-reviews.net/2012/11/03/skyrim-ps3-dawnguard-fate-answered-in-days/
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:33 pm

I'm going to take a guess and say that the Snow Prince, or some other snow elf has become a dragon priest.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:14 pm

I wonder what the PS3 situation with the other DLC is exactly at, at this point. They should give a status report and finally tell us if there is even a possible way to fix the situation and how they're going about solving the problem. Giving us vague status updates for several months is utterly annoying and the wait is brutal.

i completely agree, how hard would it be for beth to say either, we cant fix the problem were sorry to our ps3 fans, or we have made great progress and the dlcs could be available next week, its seems so simple yet all beth ever says is "were working on it". :swear: :wallbash:
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:58 am

i completely agree, how hard would it be for beth to say either, we cant fix the problem were sorry to our ps3 fans, or we have made great progress and the dlcs could be available next week, its seems so simple yet all beth ever says is "were working on it". :swear: :wallbash:
I think they're attempting to release the same way they did with the PC, by surprise. But, they've angered so many PS3 users by their refusal to release any info and lack of support that a good ammount won't purchase the DLC. Either everyone has moved on and forgotten about their terrible port, or they're so angry that they won't be purchasing the DLC.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:14 am

I think they're attempting to release the same way they did with the PC, by surprise. But, they've angered so many PS3 users by their refusal to release any info and lack of support that a good ammount won't purchase the DLC. Either everyone has moved on and forgotten about their terrible port, or they're so angry that they won't be purchasing the DLC.

as angry as i am at beth at this point, if they do release the dlcs and they work i would forgive them for all this bs they put us ps3 players through(as much as i hate to say it).
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:27 am

I wouldn't forgive them for ALL of it but it would be a step in the right direction. They would have to keep it up for a long time into the future as well before I forgive them completely.
If they release all of it I might buy them... When I am sure they do not screw up my game any more than it is.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:21 am

a surprise release of DG + HF would just be the next lie in a chain of lies, because hines said he would share new info immediatly.
still possible they will do it, but for me it would be the newest proof for bethesda more caring for profit than their customers.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:48 pm

I think they're attempting to release the same way they did with the PC, by surprise. But, they've angered so many PS3 users by their refusal to release any info and lack of support that a good ammount won't purchase the DLC. Either everyone has moved on and forgotten about their terrible port, or they're so angry that they won't be purchasing the DLC.

Well main reason possibly for no updates is, because they are still having issues with the PS3 system allot of companies have problems porting to the PS3 because it would more than likely cut into their profit margins to spend the excess work to completely port it. And if they gave you a definitive date or info if you didn't see it on that date at that microsecond you'd act like a pack of ravenous piranhas, their are reasons producers when they say "it will be delayed" won't give a timeframe as it just creates too many headaches if they do and it's still not ready then.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:11 am

Well main reason possibly for no updates is, because they are still having issues with the PS3 system allot of companies have problems porting to the PS3 because it would more than likely cut into their profit margins to spend the excess work to completely port it. And if they gave you a definitive date or info if you didn't see it on that date at that microsecond you'd act like a pack of ravenous piranhas, their are reasons producers when they say "it will be delayed" won't give a timeframe as it just creates too many headaches if they do and it's still not ready then.

Its one thing to not give a definite date of release when you are not sure of when/if you will be able to release a product. Its a totally different matter to do what Bethesda has been doing since announcing Dawnguard initially back in, what was it? May?

Anyone who has had even a little bit of responsibility in the running of a business that has to actively interact with customers knows a few cardinal rules when it comes to customer service; or should anyways:

* If you can't give specific info(either from lack of it or from adverse situations that will come from it), you give the customer SOMETHING. Preferably something that doesn't insult intelligence and at the same time conveys at least the impression that you have some sort of handle on what is going on.

* Keep the avenues of communication open as much as possible and make sure it is a 2-way street. Listen to the customer and even if you can do nothing for them at the moment, make them feel you are right there with them in the situation.

and most importantly

* There is NO bad information. You don't just tell a customer good news and then clam up when there is bad. Angry or not, a customer is going to remember if you were straight with them. Even if you lose a particular sale, if you play it straight with a customer they will remember it. And that is what gets you repeat business.


Bethesda hasn't had any definite dates that they could share with us(i truly doubt that, but meh...), fine. What they should not have done is clam up and hide behind some soccer hero's personal twitter page; with him dropping tidbits every now and then that were overtly laced with snark, indifference, and ofttimes flat-out rudeness, that essentially gave zero clue as to what the heck was going on.

Seriously, how many times would it take you walking up to the counter at business, having the attendant tell you to wait there every 5 min or so while he discussed soccer with a co-worker, and have said attendant get more hostile every time he told you to wait? I don't know about you, but it would only take a few cycles of this to get my back up and ask to speak to the manager.

But wait! Wonder of wonders! The attendant is the manager and you have no other recourse other than waiting ad nausea or giving up and leaving.

TESV: Skyrim made Bethesda the better part of a billion bucks($780 million gross, however its sliced up is still a bundle); its not too much to ask that SOMEONE can bam out a couple of sentences bi-weekly that gives the costumers some sense of where a current company endeavor is and in what direction it is going. Is it?

I don't think so.

And before i end this post, no. "PS3 HARD!!!11!!" is STILL not a valid defense. Its 2012, the PS3 is at the end of its prime life cycle as a console(going on 7 years at this point); you want to be a real multi-platform developer? Then frickin' BE a real multi-platform developer. And if you can't hack it, for whatever reason, don't bother.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:17 am

So from what i take it, theres going to be another dlc & still no dawnguard update. i'm i correct?
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